Immoral premier league Clubs

[Stadt]

Would be so ashamed if we furlough staff. Non footballing staff would be paid very little in comparison and considering we consistently turnover upwards of £120m there's absolutely no need at all

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, oxford blue said:

I think he is.

"The BBC has published the latest list of its highest-paid stars later as part of its (latest)  annual report.

Some stars have had pay increases, while others have dropped down the list and there are also some new joiners.

Bear in mind that not all earnings are published - for example, Zoe Ball's earnings for Strictly: It Takes Two are not included, as that is produced by BBC Studios, which is classed as a commercial entity.The stars of other high profile programmes produced by BBC Studios - such as Top Gear and Doctor Who - are also missing for the same reason.

Here's a list of the biggest earners at the BBC in 2018-19:

Gary Lineker - £1,750,000-£1,754,999"

Lineker works for several broadcasters/ media outlets....... as such he can justify having a limited company and that company will charge both the BBC and BT (plus others) 

a player working ostensibly for one club will struggle to justify that limited company approach to HMRC .........

 

[LinekersLugs]

Are these clubs letting the government pay thier wage bills actually gaining an advantage over the rest !???

 

surely there should be penalties because it’s administration by the back door 

 

the government need to step and say NO premier league clubs to get hand outs 

[LinekersLugs]

13 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Would be so ashamed if we furlough staff. Non footballing staff would be paid very little in comparison and considering we consistently turnover upwards of £120m there's absolutely no need at all

Well said ! 

[Heathrow fox]

24 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Would be so ashamed if we furlough staff. Non footballing staff would be paid very little in comparison and considering we consistently turnover upwards of £120m there's absolutely no need at all

Did have a 120 million quid turnover.Im finding it alarming that very few seem to have a clue what’s around the corner.We could be seeing mass unemployment,food shortages and bankrupted governments at this rate.Yet there’s disbelief when billionaires who have probably got bigger priorities right now,don’t want to service their expensive toys anymore.

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Did have a 120 million quid turnover.Im finding it alarming that very few seem to have a clue what’s around the corner.We could be seeing mass unemployment,food shortages and bankrupted governments at this rate.Yet there’s disbelief when billionaires who have probably got bigger priorities right now,don’t want to service their expensive toys anymore.

Footballers can take the hit, ordinary people earning ordinary wages can't. There's very few sectors that don't need the government to prop them up, football (at the elite level is one of them). It's very obvious the club aren't just a play thing for Top and his family. The nature of football means that life goes, football clubs sustain huge losses and almost always continue as normal. The club do not need to furlough somebody working in the club shop whilst the players are earning millions a year and the directors are earning hundreds of thousands. Billionaires shouldn't abandon staff who are on breadline because their net worth will be cut.

[Heathrow fox]

17 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Footballers can take the hit, ordinary people earning ordinary wages can't. There's very few sectors that don't need the government to prop them up, football (at the elite level is one of them). It's very obvious the club aren't just a play thing for Top and his family. The nature of football means that life goes, football clubs sustain huge losses and almost always continue as normal. The club do not need to furlough somebody working in the club shop whilst the players are earning millions a year and the directors are earning hundreds of thousands. Billionaires shouldn't abandon staff who are on breadline because their net worth will be cut.

Football clubs that rack up huge losses usually end up in administration.We should know that as much as anybody.Your right that Leicester aren’t a play thing for Top.Of course I understand everything that comes with that.Lets not fool ourselves though,that ultimately we are a vehicle for his company.How is the travel industry doing by the way?His priority right now will be safe guarding his business.His bread and butter.The fact that Spurs and Liverpool have gone down this route.Knowing full well how appalling it looks should be making people think just how bad this situation is.I hope Top does the right.Im sure he will.Wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t though.

[MattFox]

Would be a big move if we didn’t do this tbf.

 

King Power have seen their entire business basically reduced to junk overnight due to Thailand banning flights and non-residents entering the country.

 

 

 

 

 

[LinekersLugs]

FFS Liverpool et al applying to the government for state aid to pay furloughed staff is disgraceful they are owned by billionaires and earn £200m a year from TV payments and pay out 100m to 40 over payed idiots

 

boris Johnson needs to sort this mess out NOW !
 

The NHS need the money not LCFC !
 

The British public will not stand for this muck 

 

[Heathrow fox]

13 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Would be a big move if we didn’t do this tbf.

 

King Power have seen their entire business basically reduced to junk overnight due to Thailand banning flights and non-residents entering the country.

 

 

 

 

 

Where do King Power stop then.Have they laid staff off yet?If they have then are they being furloughed?Are they getting the same 80% of normal pay as we are in the UK?If not then what makes Darren in the ticket office more important than one their employees in their shops and offices.Unless people are expecting Top to bail everyone out.

[Super_horns]

PFA sticking to their guns and refusing the pay cut ?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52168692

[jayfox26]

Never thought I'd see the day but I'm really falling out of love with football. The actions of several premier league clubs with regards to furloughing their staff is absolutely disgraceful whilst their players still earn multi millions. A small wage reduction from players would cover the wages of the staff and even without that, I'm not convinced Spurs and Liverpool, 2 of the richest clubs in the world couldn't afford to pay their non playing staff. Any premier league club who furloughs their staff should have a year long transfer embargo imposed as if they are so poorly run that they cant afford to pay their staff for 2 months then surely they cant afford to spend multi millions on new signings. Totally understand smaller clubs doing it to protect their staff but with the TV money etc from the premier league, it's a disgrace that some teams have chosen to do this. 

[LinekersLugs]

Owned by billionaires 

 

using the tax money Take from people earning minimum wage to pay their staff 

 

despite some of their employees getting paid millions and millions 

 

this is the moment that football died ! 
 

we need to take our game back or it’s going to be toxic for generations 

 

I’ll be selling on my season tickets if city do this ! And I’ll have no issues cashing in on them cos I’ll donate the money to ITU staff at the LRI ! 
 

the day that football lost the last of its soul 

Edited 4 April 2020 by LinekersLugs

[Dirkster the Fox]

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47 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

FFS Liverpool et al applying to the government for state aid to pay furloughed staff is disgraceful they are owned by billionaires and earn £200m a year from TV payments and pay out 100m to 40 over payed idiots

 

boris Johnson needs to sort this mess out NOW !
 

The NHS need the money not LCFC !
 

The British public will not stand for this muck 

 

Its not the Governments fault this club has crossed the moral high ground. As if Boris Johnson is going to single out Liverpool (not others) for doing this.

 

NO! 

 

The issue is firmly at LIVERPOOL FC's, door step (and the others).  They are hypocritical (gushy video posted supporting for the NHS) and now taking tax payers money without need.

[Dirkster the Fox]

10 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

Owned by billionaires 

 

using the tax money Take from people earning minimum wage to pay their staff 

 

despite some of their employees getting paid millions and millions 

 

this is the moment that football died ! 

I'm a capitalist free marketeer (Not Socialist), but these points tonight I fully agree with.

 

Football is now seriously way off the public opinion. Using our money to Furlough (when they have Millions already) and many other smaller community businesses will end up folding is disgraceful.

[StriderHiryu]

3 hours ago, Stadt said:

Would be so ashamed if we furlough staff. Non footballing staff would be paid very little in comparison and considering we consistently turnover upwards of £120m there's absolutely no need at all

Likewise, but I can see this being the case with Leicester City sadly. King Power's revenue is generated through duty-free at airports and there aren't many flights taking place right now! Perhaps more than other owners, ours might be getting stung more than most.

 

I hope that we don't see staff getting furloughed and would hope the players agree to a pay cut to sort it out, IMO that would be the Leicester City way, given that Vichai was a man always known for his generosity and would mean the players could follow in his footsteps.

[jayfox26]

57 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

Owned by billionaires 

 

using the tax money Take from people earning minimum wage to pay their staff 

 

despite some of their employees getting paid millions and millions 

 

this is the moment that football died ! 
 

we need to take our game back or it’s going to be toxic for generations 

 

I’ll be selling on my season tickets if city do this ! And I’ll have no issues cashing in on them cos I’ll donate the money to ITU staff at the LRI ! 
 

the day that football lost the last of its soul 

Totally agree. If Leicester do this then I wont be paying for another ticket. Really saddens me to say it but I wouldn't be able to live with myself paying for tickets to watch overpaid people who didnt help during this pandemic. I've already made a decision that I will never pay to go to Anfield, Sports Direct Arena or the shithole Spurs ground. Any other prem club that does it will also be on my no go list. The whole thing is a shambles! 

[Strokes]

Can’t wait to get a season ticket when it restarts, when you lot all hand them back. 

[jayfox26]

3 hours ago, Heathrow fox said:

Did have a 120 million quid turnover.Im finding it alarming that very few seem to have a clue what’s around the corner.We could be seeing mass unemployment,food shortages and bankrupted governments at this rate.Yet there’s disbelief when billionaires who have probably got bigger priorities right now,don’t want to service their expensive toys anymore.

I dont think the issue necessarily lies with the owners not wanting to "service their expensive toys" as you put it, it is more the fact they haven't asked (as far as we know) players to take a wage cut to be able to pay club staff. And if said owners "dont want to service their expensive toys anymore" does that mean that when this blows over they wont be signing any new players? I'm pretty sure if the likes of Liverpool and Spurs cant afford to pay staff then they surely cant afford any new signings/ contract extensions for current playing staff? Do you see where there is a huge moral dilemma here? I honestly think that any premier league club that "cant afford" to pay their staff should be transfer embargoed. The whole thing stinks and is just a sign of the elite sticking 2 fingers up to everyone else! If the rest of the premier league follows suit with putting their staff on furlough then football has well and truly died! 

[Heathrow fox]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

I dont think the issue necessarily lies with the owners not wanting to "service their expensive toys" as you put it, it is more the fact they haven't asked (as far as we know) players to take a wage cut to be able to pay club staff. And if said owners "dont want to service their expensive toys anymore" does that mean that when this blows over they wont be signing any new players? I'm pretty sure if the likes of Liverpool and Spurs cant afford to pay staff then they surely cant afford any new signings/ contract extensions for current playing staff? Do you see where there is a huge moral dilemma here? I honestly think that any premier league club that "cant afford" to pay their staff should be transfer embargoed. The whole thing stinks and is just a sign of the elite sticking 2 fingers up to everyone else! If the rest of the premier league follows suit with putting their staff on furlough then football has well and truly died! 

Again,Spurs and Liverpool knew going down this route looked dreadful.They know it will cost them far more in bad feeling and money in the long run.Yet they still went ahead and did it.How many more clues do you need?This isn’t just going to blow over.Football in it’s current form has died.Spurs entire business plan has just gone up in smoke.The players will do what they can to an extent.Ultimately though they will be protecting what they’ve already got.Did you really expect anything else from the elite?

[Footballwipe]

9 hours ago, Heathrow fox said:

Football clubs that rack up huge losses usually end up in administration.We should know that as much as anybody.Your right that Leicester aren’t a play thing for Top.Of course I understand everything that comes with that.Lets not fool ourselves though,that ultimately we are a vehicle for his company.How is the travel industry doing by the way?His priority right now will be safe guarding his business.His bread and butter.The fact that Spurs and Liverpool have gone down this route.Knowing full well how appalling it looks should be making people think just how bad this situation is.I hope Top does the right.Im sure he will.Wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t though.

Maybe the point is that clubs who turn over £120m+ a season shouldn't be making massive losses already.

 

Maybe those clubs' business plans should have some form of disaster planning, business continuity. Instead they seems to spurt the money up the wall, paying millions for mediocre players in fees and wages in the desperate struggle to stay up at any cost, even if that means losing millions a year.

 

Any club who ends up in administration in the Premier League on the back of this only had themselves to blame. They had the money to prevent this, the finances and the income smaller clubs can only dream of. 

 

As has been said, if nothing else good comes from this terrible situation, maybe some responsible financial management in the PL might prevail

[Dahnsouff]

Poor from Liverpool especially, there is a scenario where you can see some clubs with less turnover requiring assistance based on previous financial commitments, but it seems a bit poor in general.

[Dahnsouff]

Fair concerns...

[LinekersLugs]

8 hours ago, Strokes said:

Can’t wait to get a season ticket when it restarts, when you lot all hand them back. 

There will be no shortage of them 

[Strokes]

30 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said:

There will be no shortage of them 

I doubt it, I predict people will forget very quickly when it suits them.