Muzzy - what a Star

[StriderHiryu]

58 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Reminds me of Albrighton a little bit. You know what he's going to do but he somehow still manages to get that cross in

Yeah Albrighton is super reminiscent of Guppy. Lovely guy, a team player, actually quite effective despite not having a "sophisticated" style. Mind you David Beckham was like that... compared to Giggs he would never beat a man or run past 4 players, but he didn't need to! He had laser guided crosses that always hit their target! Ronaldo (R9) said that he and Roberto Carlos beleived that Beckham could have played for Brazil, so a "basic" style can go a long way.

 

One thing about Guppy is that he had over 50 assists for the club in a combined 160 appearances. That's an assist every 3.2 games or 11 assists a season! That is absurd especially given that time period and in today's game would be . Yes he took a lot of corners and free kicks, but that is proof if ever it was needed that he had a lot of technical quality too, and fully deserved that England cap he got. For the modern game he was a bit slow, but with modern conditioning and physical training he could have been turned into a stamina machine.

[Out Foxed]

what a player

 

[StanSP]

Love this compilation. Must admit I'd forgotten about some of those goals (due to age no doubt) but he, along with Heskey, were the first 2 players I loved when I first started watching Leicester and supporting us. 

 

They were both so good and were the best of that time going in to the 00s.

 

Even when people ask me who my favourite players are, Muzzy is always up there.

[Angus Scott]

To compare Muzzy with Albrighton is frankly ridiculous. Muzzy was 10 times better

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, Angus Scott said:

To compare Muzzy with Albrighton is frankly ridiculous. Muzzy was 10 times better

No one has done that?

[Corky]

24 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Love this compilation. Must admit I'd forgotten about some of those goals (due to age no doubt) but he, along with Heskey, were the first 2 players I loved when I first started watching Leicester and supporting us. 

 

They were both so good and were the best of that time going in to the 00s.

 

Even when people ask me who my favourite players are, Muzzy is always up there.

I used to get a lot of stick at school from the plastics about our team (and we were a top half, cup winning side- thank God I didn't see them about ten years later!) yet Muzzy was always one they admired.

[Filbert_Ross]

Brilliant player.  

[ScouseFox]

ive never seen that first goal before but i think it's already become of the best goals ive ever seen 

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

This is a guy who when we were sure to go down turned down moves to Villa and Boro (£5 million if I remember rightly) just to get us back up. Legend is The only word for him. Class player - will always remember my ceefax reaction when he was signed on deadline day. Who the fook is he that must be a mistake.

[Ric Flair]

Exceptional player, gets in our all time XI in my opinion, certainly in the modern era. 

 

 

[davieG]

2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

This is a guy who when we were sure to go down turned down moves to Villa and Boro (£5 million if I remember rightly) just to get us back up. Legend is The only word for him. Class player - will always remember my ceefax reaction when he was signed on deadline day. Who the fook is he that must be a mistake.

The phrase was Muzzy Who?

 

Whenever I comment on how great he was MrsG always reminds me of that.

[Corky]

What was his best assist? The mazy run down the byline and cross for Deano in the first game at the Walkers must be up there.

 

 

[Tielemans63]

Remember being gutted when he joined Birmingham. Partly because they were a Midlands rival but mostly because he deserved to play for a bigger, better club than them.

 

He probably would have played for bigger clubs had he left sooner but he stayed loyal. My favourite Leicester player of all time. Love the guy.

[trabuch]

England's loss was Turkey's gain. It was a privilege to watch him play.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Even after what we’ve done in the last few years, whenever there’s a best XI discussion the conversation should always be about who partners Muzzy in central midfield. Class act.

[foxfanazer]

6 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Even after what we’ve done in the last few years, whenever there’s a best XI discussion the conversation should always be about who partners Muzzy in central midfield. Class act.

He breezes into it. Crazy that Chelsea didn't see enough in him to give him a chance

[foxfanazer]

He's one of those players where I wonder if I overhype him due to nostalgia but when you watch videos of him playing you realise that he was the real deal 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

13 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

He's one of them players where I wonder if I overhype him due to nostalgia but when you watch videos of him playing you realise that he was the real deal 

It’s a great point.

You think back to the O’Neill years and they seemed like the best it would ever get. Then in the last few years we’ve seen sides that could achieve better than they ever did in terms of league standing and wonder if it was just nostalgia.

 

But then you see the quality of these strikes and although the game has changed they’d be good goals in any era. Same with Heskey at his unplayable best - I don’t care how good Virgil Van Dijk is on the ball, he’d have struggled against Heskey in his final couple of seasons for us.

 

Albrighton has been great for us and was huge the year we won the league, but I’d take a 98/99 Steve Guppy over him. Ndidi is a phenomenal midfielder in the modern game but would I take him over Robbie Savage of the late 90s in terms of effectiveness for the team? Tough one.

 

I’m in danger of taking the thread onto a different discussion altogether but the point is that Izzet was great then and he’d be great now. Outrageous that he never played for England as many have said on this thread already.

[deep blue]

5 hours ago, davieG said:

So many great goals in there and always a safe bet for a penalty. 

He missed the one at Man U which he was forced to retake. A refereeing decision on a par with some of the Athletico ones - in the same era too. Straying a little bit - when you look at some of the diabolical pen decisions we've had against us in the last 4 years, too, I think you can say we're not exactly the luckiest team in the league.

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, deep blue said:

He missed the one at Man U which he was forced to retake. A refereeing decision on a par with some of the Athletico ones - in the same era too. Straying a little bit - when you look at some of the diabolical pen decisions we've had against us in the last 4 years, too, I think you can say we're not exactly the luckiest team in the league.

Oh I remember that I think. Was that Barthez tapping his boots on the post and the ref blows and Muzzy puts it in but is forced to retake it? 

[deep blue]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

He breezes into it. Crazy that Chelsea didn't see enough in him to give him a chance

In his book I seem to remember him saying that Hoddle promised him chances but didn't carry through with it. He felt let down by the way he was treated and saw the Leicester offer as his chance to progress. I don't think he got on with Hoddle.  Sorry that's a bit vague but my memory's not as sharp as I'd like.

[deep blue]

14 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Oh I remember that I think. Was that Barthez tapping his boots on the post and the ref blows and Muzzy puts it in but is forced to retake it? 

That's the one. Ref completely bottled it.

[foxfanazer]

6 minutes ago, deep blue said:

In his book I seem to remember him saying that Hoddle promised him chances but didn't carry through with it. He felt let down by the way he was treated and saw the Leicester offer as his chance to progress. I don't think he got on with Hoddle.  Sorry that's a bit vague but my memory's not as sharp as I'd like.

Sounds familiar. I think he also said he thought he never got taken seriously because of his frame and height. Don't know who brought him here but it was a stroke of genius

[Gamble92]

6 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Oh I remember that I think. Was that Barthez tapping his boots on the post and the ref blows and Muzzy puts it in but is forced to retake it? 

An era where the referees were more scared of Ferguson's influence on them, than actual making the right decisions. There wasn't actually an away penalty at old trafford for about 6 years during the 90s. When that penalty was eventually rewarded, this was the reaction of the United players :

 

 

[Voll Blau]

14 hours ago, Stadt said:

Late 90s a bit different to now 

It's an interesting question and not one I'd given a lot of thought to, but I reckon club bias would have way overrode any consideration like that. Look at how hard Guppy and Heskey had to work for their caps in the same era - especially the former despite the dearth of English left-footed talent at the time.

 

 

10 hours ago, deep blue said:

In his book I seem to remember him saying that Hoddle promised him chances but didn't carry through with it. He felt let down by the way he was treated and saw the Leicester offer as his chance to progress. I don't think he got on with Hoddle.  Sorry that's a bit vague but my memory's not as sharp as I'd like.

Really enjoyable book. A proper insight into the O'Neill years too.