funkyrobot Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Cags is rated on his early form, form we no longer see unfortunately. Saying Cags is crap does not mean I am championing Amartey or Faes, I am certainly not. He’s barely played for 18 months. How can you assess his form? He’s a better specialist centre back than Amartey. He’s a better tackler, he’s faster and a better passer of the ball. Danny was signed as a CDM, he plays the centre back role like the back up utility player that he is. Rodgers has had a personal falling out with the Cags. It can only be that. 3
Ian S Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 9 minutes ago, alanf0x said: Big Dan is taking us down. Simple as that really It’s on Rodgers, Amartey is fine as a 4th or 5th choice , it’s Rodgers that keeps picking him. 2
Unabomber Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 1 minute ago, funkyrobot said: He’s barely played for 18 months. How can you assess his form? He’s a better specialist centre back than Amartey. He’s a better tackler, he’s faster and a better passer of the ball. Danny was signed as a CDM, he plays the centre back role like the back up utility player that he is. Rodgers has had a personal falling out with the Cags. It can only be that. For sure something clearly kicked off. Soy will likely thrive at his new club. 3
Unabomber Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, Ian S said: It’s on Rodgers, Amartey is fine as a 4th or 5th choice , it’s Rodgers that keeps picking him. Yeah he’s the one who holds grudges. He sighed Vesty for what £12m? Yet plays Dan.
HankMarvin Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Cags is rated on his early form, form we no longer see unfortunately. Saying Cags is crap does not mean I am championing Amartey or Faes, I am certainly not. But the longer we see Rodgers here, this has happened to other players also. Vardy good early form Barnes Ndidi Castange arguably KDH Thomas. Faes seems to have got worse not quite as bad as the fall off from those above, but considering the time he has been here. Maybe Soyuncu isn’t as bad as we all think and it’s to do with the twat managing the team. 1
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 This bloke has nearly played 150 games for us and remains a joke. Must be the worse player to reach that number of appearances for us. 1 1
Dahnsouff Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, funkyrobot said: He’s barely played for 18 months. How can you assess his form? He’s a better specialist centre back than Amartey. He’s a better tackler, he’s faster and a better passer of the ball. Danny was signed as a CDM, he plays the centre back role like the back up utility player that he is. Rodgers has had a personal falling out with the Cags. It can only be that. I cannot assess his form, like everyone else on here, I can only comment on when he does play, which has been poor and either cowardly or reckless. Amartey is shite, he is far too dozy to be a top level CB. We cannot keep rating Cags as the same guy who joined us, as any games in the last 2 years for us or for Turkey have been poor. Just as Amartey has been, but it feels like Amartey (rightly) gets panned as he plays, whereas Cags get plaudits when he doesn’t, it’s utterly bonkers. Don’t get me wrong, would rather see Caglar get a chance at redemption (bit late now I know) just feels like whatever it was, it’s unforgivable.
Dahnsouff Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: But the longer we see Rodgers here, this has happened to other players also. Vardy good early form Barnes Ndidi Castange arguably KDH Thomas. Faes seems to have got worse not quite as bad as the fall off from those above, but considering the time he has been here. Maybe Soyuncu isn’t as bad as we all think and it’s to do with the twat managing the team. Think that’s reaching tbh, as whilst Cags has been poor, plenty of those listed have been good and Barnes is well known as glowing hot and cold. Vardy is not a fair comparison as he is ageing, it’s plain to see. KDH improved but is limited, Castagne and Luke, not sure. Wilf, also not sure, but right now, only Maddison is in any sort of form. Maybe it changes when Rodgers goes, I hope so and would welcome the chance to see it, but don’t believe Rodgers is the cause of player downturns I general, as plenty seem to rate him.
Richmondfox Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 7 minutes ago, Ian S said: It’s on Rodgers, Amartey is fine as a 4th or 5th choice , it’s Rodgers that keeps picking him. He’s not fine as any choice due to him be not very good. 1
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: But the longer we see Rodgers here, this has happened to other players also. Vardy good early form Barnes Ndidi Castange arguably KDH Thomas. Faes seems to have got worse not quite as bad as the fall off from those above, but considering the time he has been here. Maybe Soyuncu isn’t as bad as we all think and it’s to do with the twat managing the team. Vardy is older now. His form was bound to drop. I don't know how people can't get their head around this. However he did win a golden boot, and scored the most goals in a season for us, under Rodgers. Barnes is hard to judge given he had been recalled from WBA about two months before Rodgers joined. KDH and Thomas are also hard to judge because I don't actually know how good they are / haven't played under other managers here. I don't think either KDH or Thomas are anything better than lower to mid table PL players. Ndidi and Castagne, now, I agree with. Both massively dropped off. Faes I have been sceptical of since he joined, same with Souttar. I don't think either of these get in a side that wants to push top 6. When Rodgers had us top 6 we had Soyuncu and Evans at the back who, as a partnership, are miles ahead of our current two. Evans was a Rolls Royce but sadly now age and injuries have got the better of him.
Tommy Fresh Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, Richmondfox said: He’s not fine as any choice due to him be not very good. This is the issue though isn't it, a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what we as a club can stock in terms of centre halves. Seems to be a lot of people who think we should have 4 or 5 of first choice standard.
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ian S said: It’s on Rodgers, Amartey is fine as a 4th or 5th choice , it’s Rodgers that keeps picking him. No he isn't, given he makes mistakes everytime he plays. Every game he gifts the opposition a clear cut opportunity. He isn't good for any choice and should be moved on. We can get better 4th/5th choice defenders. Edited 12 March 2023 by Fox92
Ian S Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 1 minute ago, Richmondfox said: He’s not fine as any choice due to him be not very good. What would you expect at Leicester as a 4th/5th choice, that is someone who plays occasionally in Mickey Mouse cup games.
Tommy Fresh Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, Fox92 said: No he isn't, given he makes mistakes everytime he plays. Every game he gifts the opposition a clear cut opportunity. He isn't good for any choice and should be moved on. If he's 4th or 5th choice he doesn't get chance to make mistakes does he though really. 3
Dusty Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Just now, Fox92 said: No he isn't, given he makes mistakes everytime he plays. Every game he gifts the opposition a clear cut opportunity. He isn't good for any choice and should be moved on. I think Amartey is pretty pants and he shouldn’t be higher than 4th choice. But he had a few solid games for us earlier in the season tbf. 1
Ian S Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: No he isn't, given he makes mistakes everytime he plays. Every game he gifts the opposition a clear cut opportunity. He isn't good for any choice and should be moved on. Ridiculous post, it’s not on Rodgers but Rodgers picks him in the team.How does that work?
cropstonfox Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 Not good enough. But tries his best. His best is Sunday League level unfortunately!!
Blue ROI Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 If it wasn't for being part of the title winning squad than Amartey would probably have a lesser reputation. He's nearly felt like a Rodgers signing in all honesty.
Will1981 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 10 minutes ago, Fox92 said: This bloke has nearly played 150 games for us and remains a joke. Must be the worse player to reach that number of appearances for us. 150 games and probably about a dozen really poor performances in 150 games, compare that with Faes who has had about a dozen shocking performances since he signed for us. 1
Solihullfox Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 (edited) The common denominator with all the players at the club that started well for us over the last 3 years like Soyuncu is that once the glinting toothed charlatan coach spots someone who has talent he thinks “ I can improve this guy even further because I truly am one of the worlds greatest coaches “ and guess what, they regress and all the attacking endeavour and flair disappears until we see the shell of a footballer with no confidence or belief. 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤 Edited 12 March 2023 by Solihullfox 2
Blue ROI Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 14 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: But the longer we see Rodgers here, this has happened to other players also. Vardy good early form Barnes Ndidi Castange arguably KDH Thomas. Faes seems to have got worse not quite as bad as the fall off from those above, but considering the time he has been here. Maybe Soyuncu isn’t as bad as we all think and it’s to do with the twat managing the team. 'Brendan Rodgers improves young players' 1
StanSP Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 14 minutes ago, Fox92 said: This bloke has nearly played 150 games for us and remains a joke. Must be the worse player to reach that number of appearances for us. He probably has had the odd good game, but I genuinely can't remember a game where he's properly stood out. Glad to be corrected, but for the amount of time he's been here, he's never consistently been above average. 1
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 9 minutes ago, Ian S said: Ridiculous post, it’s not on Rodgers but Rodgers picks him in the team.How does that work? I didn't say it wasn't on Rodgers did I?
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Blue ROI said: 'Brendan Rodgers improves young players' Player development is a two way thing. It's not all on the manager. Chilwell improved under Rodgers but also said he spent his summer improving himself. edit: I would also argue Barnes has improved under Rodgers. Edited 12 March 2023 by Fox92
Fox92 Posted 12 March 2023 Posted 12 March 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Will1981 said: 150 games and probably about a dozen really poor performances in 150 games, compare that with Faes who has had about a dozen shocking performances since he signed for us. I cannot disagree as I don't rate Faes, see my post above referencing that. 13 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: If he's 4th or 5th choice he doesn't get chance to make mistakes does he though really. Agreed. Edited 12 March 2023 by Fox92 1
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