January47 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 15 minutes ago, peach0000 said: Basically loves Erdogan and whenever Turkey launches a military offensive he has a tendency to make a political statement on the football pitch. This is problematic as Erdogan has looked up/killed many of his political rivals using the failed coup a few years back to justify it and Turkeys military offensives tend to be in violation of international law and have involved numerous war crimes. The guy is way too controversial for my liking and I for one would prefer it if we looked else where. Politics has no place in football and this guy doesn't understand that. And aren't Roma more left wing and Lazio right wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesfromlondonLCFC Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 1 minute ago, January47 said: And aren't Roma more left wing and Lazio right wing thats putting it lightly tbh. Lazio are pretty extreme historically. Roma less severe, but still pretty left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 26 minutes ago, peach0000 said: Basically loves Erdogan and whenever Turkey launches a military offensive he has a tendency to make a political statement on the football pitch. This is problematic as Erdogan has looked up/killed many of his political rivals using the failed coup a few years back to justify it and Turkeys military offensives tend to be in violation of international law and have involved numerous war crimes. The guy is way too controversial for my liking and I for one would prefer it if we looked else where. Politics has no place in football and this guy doesn't understand that. Well..... That's just not true anymore. Is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 11 minutes ago, January47 said: And aren't Roma more left wing and Lazio right wing Yes, I suspect that's where the problems lie with their fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Just now, Foxy_Bear said: Well..... That's just not true anymore. Is it? I mean it should be and is. What are you referring to exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 20 hours ago, Stevosevic said: Is that true for all players? I remember when I've seen leaked pay slips before it's been PAYE...unless they're fake Apparently all salary payments to players are PAYE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 11 minutes ago, January47 said: And aren't Roma more left wing and Lazio right wing Nah that's a bit of a myth Roma have plenty of fascist groups associated with the club and have been just as guilty as Lazio for rasicm etc. See the fairly recent stabbing of two spurs fans because they are perceived as a Jewish club as a recent example. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Probably one of my least favourite left footed right wingers, but if we sign him then I hope he will be a success. He is fast and has a lot of skill and defensively he is good at interceptions, his end product is revolting though. Injury problems haven't helped him the last 2 seasons but we should be cautious on what we would have to pay, this sort of player screams a loan with an option to buy but no doubt Roma will get £20-25m out of us and we have to hope and pray he kicks on with us and improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 4 minutes ago, peach0000 said: I mean it should be and is. What are you referring to exactly? It should be, you're right but currently every single game starts with a mass political statement. Don't get me wrong, it's a political statement I agree with but a political statement none the less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Just now, Foxy_Bear said: It should be, you're right but currently every single game starts with a mass political statement. Don't get me wrong, it's a political statement I agree with but a political statement none the less. I'm not sure I consider it political personally. The line between political and not is a very fine one. If we are considering the taking of the knee political I would argue that the wearing of the poppy also is equally so. For me neither are and they are both fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta Legend Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, peach0000 said: Basically loves Erdogan and whenever Turkey launches a military offensive he has a tendency to make a political statement on the football pitch. This is problematic as Erdogan has looked up/killed many of his political rivals using the failed coup a few years back to justify it and Turkeys military offensives tend to be in violation of international law and have involved numerous war crimes. The guy is way too controversial for my liking and I for one would prefer it if we looked else where. Politics has no place in football and this guy doesn't understand that. Erdogan is a horrendous Dictator, makes Trump look sane. imagine a player pulling out a MAGA hat to celebrate a goal, the outrage would be off the scale. Strange as Cags isn't that way at all and he comes across as very Apolitical a typical big city secular Turk. They're best mates. The political bull won't be accepted by the premier League so hopefully he'd keep it to himself and just play football. Especially as we do have a sizeable Kurdish community. Edited 16 September 2020 by Lesta Legend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 2 minutes ago, peach0000 said: I'm not sure I consider it political personally. The line between political and not is a very fine one. If we are considering the taking of the knee political I would argue that the wearing of the poppy also is equally so. For me neither are and they are both fine. I would say he is being more patriotic than political. Not that I could ever be patriotic to a national leader like Erdogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 1 minute ago, Lesta Legend said: Erdogan is a horrendous Dictator, makes Trump look sane. imagine a player pulling out a MAGA hat to celebrate a goal, the outrage would be off the scale. Strange as Cags isn't that way at all and he comes across as very Apolitical a typical big city secular Turk. Their best mates. The political bull won't be accepted by the premier League so hopefully he'd keep it to himself and just play football. Especially as we do have a sizeable Kurdish community. But if they just brought out an American flag we’d consider them a patriotic American right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 We also should not think that having someone's BFF join the team is necessarily a good thing, it likely is, but it should not be assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 46 minutes ago, peach0000 said: Basically loves Erdogan and whenever Turkey launches a military offensive he has a tendency to make a political statement on the football pitch. This is problematic as Erdogan has looked up/killed many of his political rivals using the failed coup a few years back to justify it and Turkeys military offensives tend to be in violation of international law and have involved numerous war crimes. The guy is way too controversial for my liking and I for one would prefer it if we looked else where. Politics has no place in football and this guy doesn't understand that. Agreed. I'm not Kurdish, in fact I'm not even from the middle east im moroccan but i think it's clear under is an ultranationalist and I'd prefer not to sign him. What turkey is doing in Syria is terrible. They're using jihadis against Rojava, and the people's defense unit. Idc how good this lad is it'd be bad press to sign him and bad morally. Avoid 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Just now, MPH said: I would say he is being more patriotic than political. Not that I could ever be patriotic to a national leader like Erdogan. It's on the line of acceptable or not. I just hope if he signs he keeps his beliefs to himself and focuses on his football. He's entitled to his own beliefs but I wouldn't like to see that behaviour when he's wearing a leicester shirt. When he's playing for the club he should be representing the values of the club and the wider city and salutes and gestures that he loves to partake in would not do that and would just alienate some sections of our support in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 8 minutes ago, peach0000 said: I'm not sure I consider it political personally. The line between political and not is a very fine one. If we are considering the taking of the knee political I would argue that the wearing of the poppy also is equally so. For me neither are and they are both fine. Whats political about wearing a poppy, its a symbol of remembrance wore by labour conservatives and everyone in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 5 minutes ago, peach0000 said: I'm not sure I consider it political personally. The line between political and not is a very fine one. If we are considering the taking of the knee political I would argue that the wearing of the poppy also is equally so. For me neither are and they are both fine. It's absolutely political and my problem with it is it sets a standard. I know I'm going to catch some heat for this as it is a fairly extreme comparison but the only differance between taking a knee and a Nazi salute is opinion. Now I'm not saying that I think that anyone who does a Nazi salute is in anyway right, they are not but that's only my opinion and someone of a different one could easily look at things like the knee and see it as open game to express said opinion. Same with the poppy. Wearing it is accepted but not wearing it invites criticism when they are both simply expressing an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Just now, Markyblue said: Whats political about wearing a poppy, its a symbol of remembrance wore by labour conservatives and everyone in between. I said I don't consider it political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 8 minutes ago, MPH said: I would say he is being more patriotic than political. Not that I could ever be patriotic to a national leader like Erdogan. Nah, that's not patriotism in my opinion. It's like being proud of the Iraq war. Something you really shouldn't support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SheppyFox Posted 16 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 16 September 2020 Has this topic gone hot because of political drivel, or has something happened? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, SheppyFox said: Has this topic gone hot because of political drivel, or has something happened? A dubious source on Twitter says he's coming! (that's Under not the dubious source!) Edited 16 September 2020 by Silva Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Is this a Football forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 1 minute ago, peach0000 said: I said I don't consider it political. You were very ambiguous, you said you could argue it was political but then said it isn't its fine.🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 1 minute ago, SheppyFox said: Has this topic gone hot because of political drivel, or has something happened? If you look a couple of pages back things are looking promising on this deal but now his controversial actions while playing for Roma are bing discussed as some people (including me) are concerned about him bringing it to Leicester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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