Adrien Silva joins Sampdoria permanently

[filthyfox]

Nilson?... Bennett?...  Some Tunisian who I can't remember his name.... Inler?... Slimani..... Musa?.. ...Zieler?.... 

[filthyfox]

.....Kramaric? .... Christ, that's a lot of crap signings and money wasted

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

I guess you know best and Andrew Neville is a liar then. 

It’s in their accounts in black and white. There was more paid to them in the next accounts as well.

 

It’s not my opinion, it’s in legally released and filed documents 

[Dan]

7 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

oh, come on.

 

Junior Lewis  .... Akinbadbuy?....  Gunnlauggssonnnnnnn?..... Kaebi?..... Roberto Mancini?

I think pound for pound, factor in the shambles of actually getting it over the line, and how many games he played for us / contribution, yes, I'd say he was the single worst.

 

It's not all his fault but the whole saga was massively embarrassing.

[Dan]

Oh and another thing, I mean this was just written wasn't it, but he made 14 appearances for us  

[Guest Kopfkino]

Can't remember anything he did on the pitch, in fact I'd struggle to tell you what type of player he is based on his games for us. The only thing I remember about him was him walking straight past us after the Palace 5-0 to give some Sporting fan in the home end his shirt.

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

oh, come on.

 

Junior Lewis  .... Akinbadbuy?....  Gunnlauggssonnnnnnn?..... Kaebi?..... Roberto Mancini?

They didn’t cost £20m+, contribute nothing and go on a free. So all in all, when you weigh up cost v contributions, it’s pretty much the worst ever, or in the top two at least. Can’t think of anything quite so bad. Musa we got money back, Slim actually contributed goals and assists for a while.

[shen]

8 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

oh, come on.

 

Junior Lewis  .... Akinbadbuy?....  Gunnlauggssonnnnnnn?..... Kaebi?..... Roberto Mancini?

 

6 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

Nilson?... Bennett?...  Some Tunisian who I can't remember his name.... Inler?... Slimani..... Musa?.. ...Zieler?.... 

 

5 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

.....Kramaric? .... Christ, that's a lot of crap signings and money wasted

Of all of those, I think it's only Slimani who comes close to being as expensive a flop as Silva. At least we recouped money for a lot of those transfers.

[Dan]

Slimani was a big failure too for the money but you can at least point to some contribution from him. I genuinely can't remember a thing Silva did.

[MPH]

14 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

And that is the end to probably the worst signing we've ever made. Good luck to him mind, I don't put it entirely on him.

 

 

I don’t specifically mean you here but I find it Harsh that he’s been cast off by some as a terrible.. he played 21 times i think for us  and yet Gray has played 150 times, hasn’t progressed and some still want to keep him!

[VLC86]

For all of the reasons outlined above Silva is without doubt in the top 10 all time Premier League worst signings.

[Dan]

1 minute ago, MPH said:

 

 

I don’t specifically mean you here but I find it Harsh that he’s been cast off by some as a terrible.. he played 21 times i think for us  and yet Gray has played 150 times, hasn’t progressed and some still want to keep him!

I don't think he's a terrible player. If he was a terrible player he wouldn't have a Euro 2016 winners medal and 26 appearances for Portugal. Judging solely on his time at Leicester though it was a disaster of a signing in just about every way.

 

Believe me I'm definitely not the one to come to if you're after Gray defence  

[StriderHiryu]

50 minutes ago, Babylon said:

So Rodgers actually loved him, but rather than pay a paltry £5m. We’ve decided to bin off a £20m player, that he actually wanted to play, and spend even more millions on Praet instead.

 

Or.... he watched him he wasn’t very good, just as he wasn’t in the games for us.

I didn't say he loved him, stop putting words in my mouth. I said it MIGHT explain why he wasn't given a CHANCE when he fits the sort of profile that Rodgers usually loves in his teams. Matty James was given game time by Brendan Rodgers, but Adrien Silva was not. To not be given a sniff always had a hint of there being a more complex situation around the player.

 

I would imagine that overall any / all of the following factors meant it was decided a long time ago to move him on:

- Additional payments due to Sporting based on additional appearances, of which some were close to triggering. (Barcelona sold Nelson Semedo to Wolves for a similar reason).

- On huge wages, a rumoured 80k a week.

- Failure to adapt to the pace and physical nature of the English game.

- Head not right and seemingly not able to mentally recover from the club's disastrous handling of signing him in the first place.

- Unable to settle in Leicester / England.

- Not a player Rodgers had signed and he preferred players with a different profile.

- Etc.

 

Rodgers in his recent press conference said Adrien Silva had been a total professional with the situation at hand and he wished him well for the rest of his career.

 

Anyway he's gone now, just Slimani and Ghezall to ditch and that's a large amount of wages freed up which can be used for either new players or more likely new contracts for players like Evans, Barnes, Tielemans, Ricardo and Soynucu. I doubt they will all sign them, but I am sure some of them will, even if they all end up leaving in the future.

 

[SuperMike]

Good luck Adrien. Hope all goes well for you in Italy - you are certainly due a slice of good fortune and recognition for your professionalism.

[CosbehFox]

17 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

Oh and another thing, I mean this was just written wasn't it, but he made 14 appearances for us  

Heavy rumour was that we had to pay Sporting another fee when he hit 15

[Dan]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

Heavy rumour was that we had to pay Sporting another fee when he hit 15

It was just written wasn't it.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

Not a chance. £5m extra if he plays 15 premier league games! 

I thought this. Would be super stupid clause, plenty of players of good pedigree have taken more than 14 games to bed in properly.

 

It was the missed half season and our style of play at the time not fitting his football. You don't get to play 26 times for Portugal by being crap. He'd have more caps no doubt if he hadn't been languishing here the last few seasons.

 

It just didn't click here and he's moved on. Hope he regains some form and goes on to have a successful career.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

29 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

Can't remember anything he did on the pitch, in fact I'd struggle to tell you what type of player he is based on his games for us. The only thing I remember about him was him walking straight past us after the Palace 5-0 to give some Sporting fan in the home end his shirt.

Outrageous lack of judgement that was. As you say, kind of epitomised his time here.

[shen]

11 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It was the missed half season and our style of play at the time not fitting his football. You don't get to play 26 times for Portugal by being crap. He'd have more caps no doubt if he hadn't been languishing here the last few seasons.

 

It just didn't click here and he's moved on. Hope he regains some form and goes on to have a successful career.

 

28 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I don't think he's a terrible player. If he was a terrible player he wouldn't have a Euro 2016 winners medal and 26 appearances for Portugal. Judging solely on his time at Leicester though it was a disaster of a signing in just about every way.

I think some are overstating the 26 caps. It really isn't necessarily an indicator that he had the required level for the PL. Portugal have had distinctly average players get more caps over the past decades.

Edited 3 October 2020 by shen

[sacreblueits442]

13 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I don't think he's a terrible player. If he was a terrible player he wouldn't have a Euro 2016 winners medal and 26 appearances for Portugal. Judging solely on his time at Leicester though it was a disaster of a signing in just about every way.

 

Believe me I'm definitely not the one to come to if you're after Gray defence  

..it is strange, that with all he had previously achieved prior to signing, that he failed to provide a suitable level of quality!!!

Allowing for six months of being sidelined, when given the opportunity to play after an initial good start the wheels fell off, as he was unable to work effectively in the midfield and eventually perceived to be a liability.

  This argument just keeps going round and round with no sight of a resolution even though it was patently obvious that he lacked the speed, quickness of thought, and had an unerring ability not to find his man with a five yard pass. For some people, those flaws do not seem to deter them from wanting his inclusion in the team, even though his contribution was detrimental, in taking the club forward.

[sacreblueits442]

16 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I thought this. Would be super stupid clause, plenty of players of good pedigree have taken more than 14 games to bed in properly.

 

It was the missed half season and our style of play at the time not fitting his football. You don't get to play 26 times for Portugal by being crap. He'd have more caps no doubt if he hadn't been languishing here the last few seasons.

 

It just didn't click here and he's moved on. Hope he regains some form and goes on to have a successful career.

...I felt he was ideal for what we were looking for, and his style of play should have suited our team!!!

His problem was always the speed of the game, getting caught in possession time and time again, passes not finding their man, any kind of pressure on the ball made him have to attempt to move it quicker and when you are hurried you do not make the correct decisions and not as effective as you should be.

  He is suited to play on the Continent as the pace is not the same but up against a Premier League team with the increased tempo and he would once again struggle, speed kills him.

[Tom12345]

As some of you said, the 14s really ruined his career here. His match fitness, subsequently being available half way into season meaning fans and manager gave him less time to settle, etc. More importantly, we had a few changes in managers. Unfortunately for him, when a new manager came in, they tend to let the starting 11 under previous manager continue for a while - if you look back, Shakey, Puel and Rodgers all did that. This is why I was relieved Barnes was recalled by Puel and started him just before Rodgers came in - Barnes would have taken another year otherwise before Rodgers used him and possibly Rodgers may have gone to the transfer market for his position. Barnes had Puel to thank - Rodgers did not change anything for the first half of season he took charge. For Silva, that was a death sentence. He was never a bad player - don’t know why some fans say he was bad etc when he hardly had any game time; just like Mendy who we are now discovering how good he is.  Sad for Silva, but he should have asked for a move earlier and lowered his wage demand (he could not get £80k a week elsewhere).

Edited 4 October 2020 by Tom12345

[Tom12345]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I felt he was ideal for what we were looking for, and his style of play should have suited our team!!!

His problem was always the speed of the game, getting caught in possession time and time again, passes not finding their man, any kind of pressure on the ball made him have to attempt to move it quicker and when you are hurried you do not make the correct decisions and not as effective as you should be.

  He is suited to play on the Continent as the pace is not the same but up against a Premier League team with the increased tempo and he would once again struggle, speed kills him.

I think he was just not given the time to settle and adjust, just like Mendy, and we never realised what we missed. I agree with you he was what we needed, and he made good runs into the box, but I disagree with your other comments. He didn’t have the other players thinking with him in terms of movements. You can tell he is an intelligent player by the moves he makes, the runs he makes, his positioning, and the passing he makes. People think his passing was off, but it was to me more that the movement of our team was not up to scratch. He was expecting his teammates to make certain runs and movements, hence the passing, but they never quite did. Remember we were doing a lot of backward and sideway passing for years. It needed time to change, and it needed time for Silva to adjust to our crappy style, but he was in one game, then out next, the sub in one game, what do you expect? Remember he only played 15 or so games! Then he was locked out. It is easy for us to say he was crap - but he was not. And We simply cannot judge him like and give the comments you and others made about his passing! 

Edited 4 October 2020 by Tom12345

[Tom12345]

Just now, Tom12345 said:

I think he was just not given the time to settle and adjust, just like Mendy, and we never realised what we missed. I agree with you he was what we needed, and he made good runs into the box, but I disagree with your other comments. He didn’t have the other players thinking with him in terms of movements. You can tell he is an intelligent player by the moves he makes, the runs he makes, his positioning, and the passing he makes. People think his passing was off, but it was to me more that the movement of our team was not up to scratch. He was expecting his teammates to make certain runs and movements, hence the passing, but they never quite did. Remember we were doing a lot of backward and sideway passing for years. It needed time to change, and it needed time for Silva to adjust to our crappy style, but he was in one game, then out next, the sub in one game, what do you expect? Remember he only played 15 or so games! Then he was locked out. It is easy for us to say he was crap - but he was not. We simply cannot judge him like and give the comments you and others made about his passing! 

 

[Guest Fktf]

The best worse signing ever. Promised so much, delivered so little.

 

Actually can't think of a bigger spending mistake we've made on a transfer. In terms of a wasted fee, 'Splashing' out so much at the time on Matt injury jones is the nearest I can come