worthosoriginals Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 23 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said: 12 in 12 and Dudkin will give him a new 5 year deal on 100k shouldnt laugh really Dudkin probably will do that without the goals! At his strike rate those 12 goals will be bagged by the year 2038
MPH Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 2 hours ago, filthyfox said: Beat Norwich at home, and i will jump on the boat and Rowett... you should already be on the boat. You should want us to succeed.. was he my first choice? No. Far from it. Just listening to some players interviews over the years will tell you how important the fans are to a situation like this. We’ve had a reset in manager. The fans need a reset too.
HankMarvin Posted 27 February Posted 27 February (edited) 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: and if he'd played all year he probably would have done pretty well Or you could look at his final 6 starts in the championship before being dropped where he couldn’t score and made just 2 assists in a team scoring for fun pissing the league, which is more like the Daka we have seen during his career here. I think at the time this was the realisation for most he was dog shit, and unfortunately that’s pretty much been the case from what we have seen since, just a small purple patch scoring in 5 games in the championship despite currently playing nearly 2 seasons there from a 5 year deal, even though he was signed for a team that had just finished in the top 5 of the Premier league for the second time with high expectations. The struggles this season continued with even with no Vardy in front of him in the pecking order, which was often used as an excuse for his poor form because of the additional pressures that entailed. . Edited 27 February by HankMarvin 1
54 Silver Fox Posted 27 February Posted 27 February Patson runs around trying hard but can not put the ball in the back of the net, which is his main job.
Sammytielemans8 Posted 27 February Posted 27 February How are we paying good hard earned money to watch him and he’s taking home £70k a week. Bonkers
Lambert09 Posted 27 February Posted 27 February (edited) 4 hours ago, Fox92 said: When we got relegated in 22/23 people said Daka and Iheanacho would score for fun in the Championship Never mind that, I could quote a lot of posters that thought ayew would score for fun this season. Genuinely don’t think the gap as a striker is as much as people think. If you’re shite in the prem, you’re more than likely shite in the champ as well. There’s not many players that I can think of that can get around 2 goals in a season in the prem but move to the champ and get 20. In my opinion, in the modern game, striker (ignoring keeper) is the one that is the easiest to transfer divisions and there’s lots of recent cases to back that up (mitrovic, Toney, Watkins, even all the Luton strikers put up good numbers). I think it’s because as a lone forward you typically get to play in the box more and a chance is a chance at the end of the day. I don’t think teams defend the way they used to (with arsenal an exception this year), the last few years teams are happy to leave themselves open at the back due to an emphasis on overloading in attacking areas. Even man city, the best possession team struggled to keep clean sheets over the last few years Edited 27 February by Lambert09
LCFCJohn Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 19 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: Never mind that, I could quote a lot of posters that thought ayew would score for fun this season. Genuinely don’t think the gap as a striker is as much as people think. If you’re shite in the prem, you’re more than likely shite in the champ as well. There’s not many players that I can think of that can get around 2 goals in a season in the prem but move to the champ and get 20. In my opinion, in the modern game, striker (ignoring keeper) is the one that is the easiest to transfer divisions and there’s lots of recent cases to back that up (mitrovic, Toney, Watkins, even all the Luton strikers put up good numbers). I think it’s because as a lone forward you typically get to play in the box more and a chance is a chance at the end of the day. I don’t think teams defend the way they used to (with arsenal an exception this year), the last few years teams are happy to leave themselves open at the back due to an emphasis on overloading in attacking areas. Even man city, the best possession team struggled to keep clean sheets over the last few years I think it is often more in the physical attributes such as pace and power. There have also been some that have excelled at Championship level (such as Billy Sharp and Jordan Rhodes) who never really made it at PL level despite being clearly excellent goalscorers. Whereas those you mention have physically been able to step up and not struggle.
Lambert09 Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 5 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said: I think it is often more in the physical attributes such as pace and power. There have also been some that have excelled at Championship level (such as Billy Sharp and Jordan Rhodes) who never really made it at PL level despite being clearly excellent goalscorers. Whereas those you mention have physically been able to step up and not struggle. It’s a fair point, but even Billy sharp got 8 goal contributions in his last prem campaign. I just think the games changed a lot in the last 5 years.
HankMarvin Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 1 hour ago, Lambert09 said: Genuinely don’t think the gap as a striker is as much as people think. If you’re shite in the prem, you’re more than likely shite in the champ as well. There’s not many players that I can think of that can get around 2 goals in a season in the prem but move to the champ and get 20. Szmodics Got 27 then 4 Piroe 19 last season, struggled for game time this season. Vydra over 20 and was also crap in the top flight 1
JimJams Posted 27 February Posted 27 February 22/23 Vardy - 3 Prem goals 23/24 Vardy - 18 Champ goals
teblin Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 13 hours ago, HankMarvin said: Szmodics Got 27 then 4 Piroe 19 last season, struggled for game time this season. Vydra over 20 and was also crap in the top flight He’s a funny one, but might be wrong but only really had one great championship season?
Sly Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 8 minutes ago, teblin said: He’s a funny one, but might be wrong but only really had one great championship season? Yes, quite a few have been one season wonders and we’ve been linked to half of them! Akpom, Vdyra, McCormack, Gray, Graham, Cureton, Ellington, Piroe, Armstrong etc It’s a funny game though, as Jack Marriott is posting a great goals per minute ratio in League 1 this season. He dint exactly set the world alight at Wrexham. Sometimes it’s just about being in the right place at the right time.
shen Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 18 hours ago, HankMarvin said: Or you could look at his final 6 starts in the championship before being dropped where he couldn’t score and made just 2 assists in a team scoring for fun pissing the league, which is more like the Daka we have seen during his career here. I think at the time this was the realisation for most he was dog shit, and unfortunately that’s pretty much been the case from what we have seen since, just a small purple patch scoring in 5 games in the championship despite currently playing nearly 2 seasons there from a 5 year deal, even though he was signed for a team that had just finished in the top 5 of the Premier league for the second time with high expectations. The struggles this season continued with even with no Vardy in front of him in the pecking order, which was often used as an excuse for his poor form because of the additional pressures that entailed. . But he wasn't spurning loads of chances as I recall. We were clearly creating opportunities mainly for our two wingers and KDH/Ndidi. The striker's role in Enzo's system is not a prolific one in most games, but one that stretches and occupies defenses and creates space for the others to run into. Don't think Daka's performances were dogshit in that period, but as fans we were getting restless at the lack of goals he was gettin
ronnup Posted 28 February Posted 28 February Our strikers are both shit. If its Patson or Ayew at least he can run. I cant bare Ayew anymore.
volpeazzurro Posted 28 February Posted 28 February (edited) Whilst seemingly being a decent chap, unfortunately for me, Daka has become almost a comedy character and when he comes on as substitute they should play ‘Bring on the Clowns’ over the tannoy! Whilst being a willing runner (my Labrador can do this too), at any given time he has a propensity to trip over his own big bungling feet. Sadly now when starts running, I just get a re-run in my minds eye of that old Kiora cartoon advert where the large crow creature bounces the sun/ball to the music and sings ‘I’ll be your dog’. I challenge you to Google it and watch the YouTube clip and not get a similar experience when he next runs on! Perhaps it could be a new signature tune for him? Edited 28 February by volpeazzurro
VLC86 Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 21 hours ago, worthosoriginals said: At his strike rate those 12 goals will be bagged by the year 2038 Jon, stop trying to justify the new 12 year contract please.
adejo92 Posted 28 February Posted 28 February Signed for £20m + and has been here almost 5 years now earning in excess of £3m a year. Almost £40m hes cost us and hes up there with one of the worst players to wear the shirt over the last decade yet people are somewhat accepting of him because he seems a nice guy and runs a lot. The blokes an embarrassment to professional football and is the epitome of everything thats wrong with this club and where we find our selves financially. 1
Chelmofox Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 22 minutes ago, adejo92 said: Signed for £20m + and has been here almost 5 years now earning in excess of £3m a year. Almost £40m hes cost us and hes up there with one of the worst players to wear the shirt over the last decade yet people are somewhat accepting of him because he seems a nice guy and runs a lot. The blokes an embarrassment to professional football and is the epitome of everything thats wrong with this club and where we find our selves financially. Just needs a run of games. He'll come good. 3
murphy Posted 28 February Posted 28 February (edited) 20 hours ago, 54 Silver Fox said: Patson runs around trying hard but can not put the ball in the back of the net, which is his main job. You're right but we don't have an alternative who can put the ball in the net, so we should take 'running around and trying hard' as it's better than ambling around a bit, out of position and falling over. Edited 28 February by murphy 2
Bob666 Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 32 minutes ago, adejo92 said: The blokes an embarrassment to professional football and is the epitome of everything thats wrong with this club and where we find our selves financially The alternative is a half arsed slapped walking wasp who dares to wear the hallowed #9 of a former club legend. Both are the epitome of everything that's wrong with this club. It's not as if the club had at least 5 years to successfully replace the former club legend - a complete disgrace. 3
HankMarvin Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 2 hours ago, shen said: But he wasn't spurning loads of chances as I recall. We were clearly creating opportunities mainly for our two wingers and KDH/Ndidi. The striker's role in Enzo's system is not a prolific one in most games, but one that stretches and occupies defenses and creates space for the others to run into. Don't think Daka's performances were dogshit in that period, but as fans we were getting restless at the lack of goals he was gettin So a we didn’t have a striker score goals that season, he had a small window of scoring in 5 games and a equally poor run of 6 games before being dropped of not scoring resulting in 4 defeats as previously highlighted this was a player signed for the Prem. By the end of that season he had a blooper reel of misses and his confidence was shot
HankMarvin Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 3 hours ago, teblin said: He’s a funny one, but might be wrong but only really had one great championship season? I don’t think the original poster asked for examples of strikers that have consistently scored goals in the championship but “if you’re shit in the prem you’re shit in the championship”
Clever Fox Posted 28 February Posted 28 February He's a willing runner and has improved in his overall play but still doesn't understand the game. Too many times he comes back into our half contributing little while leaving us now out Ball. He's got to stay up top and create space for others if not goals.
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 28 February Posted 28 February Always offside, trampoline touch, dosent even connect with his chances we’ve got no hope with this clown upfront I can’t wait for him to be gone 1
worthosoriginals Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 2 minutes ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said: Always offside, trampoline touch, dosent even connect with his chances we’ve got no hope with this clown upfront I can’t wait for him to be gone Yeh but he runs about a bit, a strikers main job, none of this accurate shooting and scoring nonsense 1
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