Stadium Expansion *APPROVED* Sept ‘22 - Details / Images Released on Planning Site

[Pliskin]

9 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

The margins in the Championship are so fine.

6-9 points is absolutely massive, especially when we lose our star players.

 

Wont be nowhere near play offs, without points deduction IMO

It isn’t though is it? A team can be bottom, and put together a sequence of five unbeaten and end up on the cusp of the play offs. 
 

The championship is shit, most of the teams are about the same which is why everyone beats everyone. 
 

If the window shut today, and this was our squad, and we got a 6-9 point deduction I’d still be confident we would eventually mount a promotion push. 
 

But there’s no guarantee that we will get a deduction anyway, the EPL have screwed with this before, and an independent panel are now making the decision, and it’s clear for them to see we’re making considerable efforts to reduce the wage bill, so, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a minuscule one, or none at all. 

Edited 13 August 2025 by Pliskin

[davieG]

The expansion is not just about the stadium the other additions are there to increase the revenue.

[Pliskin]

Just now, davieG said:

The expansion is not just about the stadium the other additions are there to increase the revenue.

For me the indoor arena would be a master stroke… Leicester could start hosting regular decent gigs, and alternative sporting ventures…. 

[dmayne7]

1 hour ago, Claridge said:

Yea all these brilliant academy players coming through who could save us millions, disgrace

Most of whom were already in the system pre Seagrave? That's probably more to do with our standing in the game rather than being because they were attracted by Seagrave or it magically making average talents amazing.

 

Nobody is suggesting Seagrave is a waste of money but the commercially sensible thing would have been to progress the stadium first as that would allow us to massively grow matchday, sponsorship and other commercial revenue. Not to mention that a nice stadium has bigger prestige compared to a training ground. We're already in danger of being left behind by similar sized or smaller clubs (Forest, Birmingham etc.).

 

And if you're being cynical about Seagrave, it didn't stop us from losing the likes of Nyoni for nothing and we're still waiting to see what happens with Page, Evans etc. On top of that, the performance of the team has absolutely tanked since we moved to Seagrave, with all the murmurings of a bad culture created there only adding to that.

[VLC86]

7 minutes ago, davieG said:

The expansion is not just about the stadium the other additions are there to increase the revenue.

It’ll be nice considering that when we have 20k people on a 40k seater stadium. At least we have a hotel and arena there.

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, VLC86 said:

But less people deciding they don’t want a season tickets is a reduction in demand isn’t it.

 

We have 23k season ticket holders, and if the waiting list is 60 caps over 6 years one year, and then it’s 20 caps over 6 years the next year, that very clearly suggests less people have or want season tickets and therefore the demand for a season ticket has dropped.

But less people haven't, the demand is still there - its just made up of a different group of people. 

 

If you sell 97 out of 100 tickets last year and 97 out of 100 tickets this year the demand remains unchanged. Forget caps or any other measurement, I'm talking about absolute demand for season tickets has not fallen drastically - that's a fact. 

[Claridge]

1 hour ago, dmayne7 said:

Most of whom were already in the system pre Seagrave? That's probably more to do with our standing in the game rather than being because they were attracted by Seagrave or it magically making average talents amazing.

 

Nobody is suggesting Seagrave is a waste of money but the commercially sensible thing would have been to progress the stadium first as that would allow us to massively grow matchday, sponsorship and other commercial revenue. Not to mention that a nice stadium has bigger prestige compared to a training ground. We're already in danger of being left behind by similar sized or smaller clubs (Forest, Birmingham etc.).

 

And if you're being cynical about Seagrave, it didn't stop us from losing the likes of Nyoni for nothing and we're still waiting to see what happens with Page, Evans etc. On top of that, the performance of the team has absolutely tanked since we moved to Seagrave, with all the murmurings of a bad culture created there only adding to that.

But it isn;t one player from the academy who goes for a decent fee is the equivalent of years and years of extra income from 10,000 extra seats. Made perfect sense to do Seagrave first, especially as it was fairly easy. 

[dmayne7]

18 minutes ago, Claridge said:

But it isn;t one player from the academy who goes for a decent fee is the equivalent of years and years of extra income from 10,000 extra seats. Made perfect sense to do Seagrave first, especially as it was fairly easy. 

If it's just the seats sold then yes. But you ignored the other points. You have more space to sell sponsorship combined with better prestige (there's a reason you get big sponsorship deals for the stadium and not for training grounds), more corporate spaces, other matchday income (food, merchandise etc), the time spent at the stadium increases if it has more of a fan park atmosphere, potential other uses of the stadium outside the season.

 

Then you have the all non-related football stuff on site; the hotel, the arena etc which could bring in lots of extra revenue.

 

Think more players would be swayed by playing in a swanky 40,000 seater stadium as opposed to a fancy training ground (bear in mind Belvoir Drive had been upgraded a lot over the years so was still pretty decent).

 

You'd be talking a guaranteed £10m+ a year in matchday income plus all the extras. The training ground has no guarantee of youngsters being produced to sell at a profit and you're also just as likely to get them anyway. That's more about the overall investment in the youth setup in terms of coaching. The other way of attracting great talent is the giving players the opportunity to get into the first team and the general standing/prestige of the club (as above, affected more by a stadium and the way that drives growth of the club).

 

As I said, Seagrave was a lot more straightforward so I get that, but it's also more of a vanity/luxury investment. The stadium was unequivocally a better long term financial investment. It should have been both ideally, but if one or the other, it's the stadium.

[MrSpaM]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

For me the indoor arena would be a master stroke… Leicester could start hosting regular decent gigs, and alternative sporting ventures…. 

Leicester is in massive need of an arena sized music venue, it would be a no brainer just to let this part go ahead if nothing else

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

 

 

More seats is a must and if they could be made available on the day, even if you have to use an app to register and buy your tickets would be a massive boon for those leading busy lives who can't decide in advance. There's so many missed opportunities.

Any unsold tickets should always be available on the day to anyone. Late 70's and 80's when local football was frozen off city would always get a bigger crowed whoever they were playing.

 

I'd go to games when I'm back in Leicester, but I'm not paying to be able to buy a ticket. We can't plan our trips around games sadly.

 

The more I think about it the less I like the cvnts that own and incharge of us.

 

I now hope King Power go totally tit's up so he has to sell. The little cvnt needs to take all his fvcking puppets with him as well.

 

As for the expansion you must be on drugs if you think these will ever do it. More chance we end up playing at  Holmes park than this happening.

[Pliskin]

20 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

Leicester is in massive need of an arena sized music venue, it would be a no brainer just to let this part go ahead if nothing else

100% it’s well worth them starting this now, Leicester is gagging for something like this, and. It’s free revenue so to speak, it’s never going to struggle is it? We’re essentially a three university county, meaning to have huge inflations on population throughout the year.  and this would all help with a venue like this. 

[Guest Bilo]

Seagrave gets a lot of stick because its opening has coincided with our recent decline, but it will prove to be a smart investment.

 

Monga, Aluko, Page, Evans and Nelson could turn out to effectively pay for it through transfer fees alone one day, and there's no reason to think they'll be the end of it. It attracts players to the club, and any decent manager and coaching staff will consider it a haven to build their squad.

 

The problem? There's only ever really been one manager, Maresca, with the vision to use it properly and he was only here for a year. Imagine what he could have done with a three or four year stay. Instead, we've had the likes of Rodgers, Cooper and van Nistelrooy. Short term appointments making short term decisions. At least Cifuentes has a record of blooding young players, and that's how and where Seagrave will come into its own.

 

How does this relate to the stadium expansion? It'll hopefully accelerate its necessity. Go up in the next couple of years, have the players mature together and build a sustainable base to improve and re-establish ourselves in the Premier League.

 

PSR wise, we're likely to be in better fettle now with around £400k a week off the wage bill and £30m or so in transfer fees brought in. Offload some more dead wood, bring in some bargain buys the way we used to and it's quite doable. Do it this way, get back up and do our utmost to stay up and the stadium expansion becomes necessary. Remembering that infrastructure spending isn't part of PSR but income from it is will be vital here. Imagine having a busy arena and hotel pumping money into the club while using the model of player recruitment and sales that gave us the glory days.

 

Seems fanciful? Perhaps under this regime, but don't forget that we're no longer in the market to throw £80k a week at Tottenham cast-offs. If we want to sign players, it'll be cheap ones who prevail. And that will force us to use our imagination a bit. Shopping in Belgium via contacts at Leuven, looking in Scandinavia as per Cifuentes' experience and even the lower leagues of England. 

 

Combine this with the youth being integrated into the squad and we get more players like Fatawu and El-Khannouss and fewer like DeCordova-Reid and Skipp. Exciting and imaginative players playing decent football that is, above all, sustainable. That's how we get to a point where the stadium expansion is necessary and how we'll get to the next level. And if it starts going tits up? Sell the arena and hotel to ourselves like Chelsea to give some wriggle room.

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, sylofox said:

Any unsold tickets should always be available on the day to anyone. Late 70's and 80's when local football was frozen off city would always get a bigger crowed whoever they were playing.

 

I'd go to games when I'm back in Leicester, but I'm not paying to be able to buy a ticket. We can't plan our trips around games sadly.

 

The more I think about it the less I like the cvnts that own and incharge of us.

 

I now hope King Power go totally tit's up so he has to sell. The little cvnt needs to take all his fvcking puppets with him as well.

 

As for the expansion you must be on drugs if you think these will ever do it. More chance we end up playing at  Holmes park than this happening.

Be careful not to mince your words

[Heathrow fox]

On 12/08/2025 at 11:37, Fox in the North said:

Yes we do, so there’s plenty of opportunity to. I’d love to do what Real Zaragoza are doing with the Romareda (complete rebuild).

 

I think this total rebuild model will be the way to go for most clubs who all built their identikit stadiums post Hillsborough.Most won’t last the test of time and are already looking as fashionable as Jack and Vera’s cladding.Huge concourses are the way to go.Unfortunately that’s what pushes up the build costs more than anything 

[PaulW]

34 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Be careful not to mince your words

Mmm.  Sad reflection on the intel[ectual level of some ofour so called supporters.

[Muzzy_no7]

Ain’t gonna happen until Top sells the club IMO.

[PhillippaT]

1 hour ago, MrSpaM said:

Leicester is in massive need of an arena sized music venue, it would be a no brainer just to let this part go ahead if nothing else

What's Morningside - sorry, *Matiolli Arena like? (Never been or seen it, so...)

[MrSpaM]

6 minutes ago, PhillippaT said:

What's Morningside - sorry, *Matiolli Arena like? (Never been or seen it, so...)

I've honestly only been there to watch the Harlem Glode Trotters once, it's a good enough venue for the basketball, but I wouldn't say it's suitable for big music artists to be playing there, the seating and overall capacity is nowhere near the likes of the arenas they have in Nottingham and Birmingham

[Guest Bilo]

If we're ever having an arena, I demand the return of Masters football.

[Grebfromgrebland]

1 hour ago, MrSpaM said:

Leicester is in massive need of an arena sized music venue, it would be a no brainer just to let this part go ahead if nothing else

As long as the noise pollution lot don't stop us actually having events and gigs there

[sylofox]

1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Be careful not to mince your words

No point sugar coating it.

48 minutes ago, PaulW said:

Mmm.  Sad reflection on the intel[ectual level of some ofour so called supporters.

What saying it as I see it. Maybe you would rather kiss ass.

 

Oh and it's intellectual  and of our.

[Claridge]

3 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

If it's just the seats sold then yes. But you ignored the other points. You have more space to sell sponsorship combined with better prestige (there's a reason you get big sponsorship deals for the stadium and not for training grounds), more corporate spaces, other matchday income (food, merchandise etc), the time spent at the stadium increases if it has more of a fan park atmosphere, potential other uses of the stadium outside the season.

 

Then you have the all non-related football stuff on site; the hotel, the arena etc which could bring in lots of extra revenue.

 

Think more players would be swayed by playing in a swanky 40,000 seater stadium as opposed to a fancy training ground (bear in mind Belvoir Drive had been upgraded a lot over the years so was still pretty decent).

 

You'd be talking a guaranteed £10m+ a year in matchday income plus all the extras. The training ground has no guarantee of youngsters being produced to sell at a profit and you're also just as likely to get them anyway. That's more about the overall investment in the youth setup in terms of coaching. The other way of attracting great talent is the giving players the opportunity to get into the first team and the general standing/prestige of the club (as above, affected more by a stadium and the way that drives growth of the club).

 

As I said, Seagrave was a lot more straightforward so I get that, but it's also more of a vanity/luxury investment. The stadium was unequivocally a better long term financial investment. It should have been both ideally, but if one or the other, it's the stadium.

No idea where the 10 million figure comes from 8,000 brings in about 4 million another 2 million which is optimistic for the extras less all the staffing costs. Wouldn't even pay any where near the interest payments on the loan that would be required to build it.

Edited 13 August 2025 by Claridge

[stevostadium]

6 hours ago, Pliskin said:

It isn’t though is it? A team can be bottom, and put together a sequence of five unbeaten and end up on the cusp of the play offs. 
 

The championship is shit, most of the teams are about the same which is why everyone beats everyone. 
 

If the window shut today, and this was our squad, and we got a 6-9 point deduction I’d still be confident we would eventually mount a promotion push. 
 

But there’s no guarantee that we will get a deduction anyway, the EPL have screwed with this before, and an independent panel are now making the decision, and it’s clear for them to see we’re making considerable efforts to reduce the wage bill, so, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a minuscule one, or none at all. 

wow, wish i had your optimism.

To think we could still mount a promotion push with -6 to -9, i personally think your in cloud cuckoo land.

To even consider we wont get a points deduction at all is borderline deluded.

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

wow, wish i had your optimism.

To think we could still mount a promotion push with -6 to -9, i personally think your in cloud cuckoo land.

To even consider we wont get a points deduction at all is borderline deluded.

Last time in the championship, we won the league with a 7 point gap to 3rd and a 10 point gap to 4th. 
 

In 22/23, Sheff United in 2nd finished 11 points ahead of 3rd 

[ithuriel]

More chance of Daka getting 30 goals in the  league this season, KP missed the boat and it has long sailed in my opinion.