Points from the next 12 games

[Matt]

9 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Surprised how many have us down to win at Burnley 

Because they are perceived to play longball or 'brexit ball' (Whatever the hell that means) and apparently we're so much better than that.

 

Football snobbery at it's finest.

 

Edited 6 December 2021 by Matt

[Ric Flair]

47 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Knowing us, we are just as likely to beat Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City and lose to Burnley, Norwich and Newcastle.

Pointless making predictions, especially over the Christmas period. 
We know, with a fit and firing midfield trio of Tielemans, Maddison and Ndidi and Vardy scoring goals we can beat anyone.

However, on current form, we are struggling to get results. I’d be absolutely delighted with 18 points from 12, but we are capable of more

 

This " knowing us " statement really isn't relevant this season though, we've been poor for the majority of the season. Only 1 of our 5 wins have we actually been very good for 90 minutes and the other 4 we rode our luck significantly. We have been turned over by West Ham and Chelsea and 1st half vs Arsenal we were a disgrace. Man City was probably the only other game against anyone even remotely decent at this level that we've not been the complete pits this season.

 

Now you factor in our defensive issues at set pieces has reached crisis point and we're on the verge of getting put in the Conference League playoffs, followed by a horror run to the Xmas period and it all looks very bleak. Losing several to AFCON as well is going round cause us another headache. It very much is just as likely that Rodgers is coming to the end of the road than it is we dig some decent wins out.

[CosbehFox]

20 minutes ago, Matt said:

Because they are perceived to play longball or 'brexit ball' (Whatever the hell that means) and apparently we're so much better than that.

 

Football snobbery at it's finest.

 

Might have something to do with their 1 win all season tbf and position in the relegation zone. 
 

So factually yeah we are quite a bit better 

[tickler28]

6 hours ago, Flappit said:

Extracting this from the Brendan Rodgers thread as it'll be interesting to see what people's feelings are about this.

We all know we'll win one or two we don't expect to and lose one or two we don't expect to, due to lady luck and chance, but generally, what are your feelings on points out of the next games for an optimistic scenario and a realistic scenario. 

 

Next 12 games are:
H Newcastle

H Spurs

A Everton

A Man City

H Liverpool

H Norwich

A Burnley

H Brighton

A Liverpool

H West Ham

A Wolves

A Chelsea

 

I think optimistically we can get DDLLLWDWLLLL which results in 9 points.  Realistically it'll be LLLLLWLDLLLL with maybe one or two of those L turning into a D if we're lucky (perhaps Newcastle (Eddie Howe now has them playing more confidently), Burnley and Wolves) so I'll say 6 points.

 

I'd genuinely love to hear what kind of results people are expecting us to get from those 12 games. I realise that surprises happen (we may lose at home to Norwich, or may beat Man City away) but they even out. Our form is atrocious and we're getting worse. Go on - give us your optimistic and realistic expectations of those games and we can look back with amusement in February.

 

Bonus point, Rodgers to be sacked after we draw at home to Brighton ;-)

10 maybe

[Ric Flair]

We currently have 36 points in our last 28 league games under Rodgers. Anything less than 10-12 points in these next 10 league games is worse than Claue Puel did. Frightening. 

[Jakemoore]

We genuinely just need to cut out the stupid mistakes and we’ll be fine. 

 

IF we could defend set pieces we’d be on a 4 game winning streak right now. We should have beaten Southampton with Vardy’s chance but had we defended as we should then it wouldn’t have mattered. As for yesterday, we should have been 2/3-1 up at HT but again, if we could defend set pieces we’d have won 1-0 as villa didn’t actually cause us that many issues in open play. 
 

When i say things aren’t that bad I just mean that I can see a way out of this mess. I’ve watched this club of ours my whole life and we’ve had seasons where we look hopeless in every department. We aren’t at that point this season. We are capable of scoring goals and we can defend. We’re just in a terrible rut of awful mistakes. We’ll get through it. 
 

With my realistic head on I think we could get 22-26 points from the next 12. That would be a decent return. You have to expect to lose to City, Liverpool, Chelsea and possibly Spurs. 

[turkish14]

7 hours ago, The_Rorab said:

If your concept of optimism is 9 points from a possible 36, I'd hate to know what pessimism looks like! 

Just sheer brilliance 😂

[reynard]

I'd be very surprised if we got more than 9-12 points from those matches. We're so very bad right now we may not even get that many. Lose to Newcastle, a real possibility in my mind, and we will struggle to bet more than 6.

Absolutely no chance against Man City, Liverpool, West Ham or Spurs or Chelsea.

Edited 7 December 2021 by reynard

[Duncan_K]

Looking at last seasons results 

 

H Newcastle - L

H Spurs - L

A Everton - D

A Man City - W

H Liverpool - W

H Norwich - N\A but equivalent Sheff U - W

A Burnley - D

H Brighton - W

A Liverpool - L

H West Ham - L

A Wolves - D

A Chelsea - L

 

15 points with the wins at Man City and Liverpool looking very unrepeatable. 

[Gubbins]

I just don't see any realistic scenario in which Rodgers is still manager come the end of this run of fixtures. If the point of departure is hitting the relegation zone then defeat against Newcastle could see him gone by the new year. Kane and Gray will almost certainly get goals against us even if the defence is miraculously fixed as will man City and Liverpool in general. Rodgers is dead man walking.

[FoxOnWheels]

If we get less than 12 could be in the relegation battle, would be an embarrassment for the squad we have

[Flappit]

Anyone feel like being even less optimistic about upcoming results after last night's showing? 

[Flappit]

How are your predictions doing, folks? 

[StanSP]

On 06/12/2021 at 16:09, StanSP said:

I think 18 points

Win against Newcastle, Everton, Norwich, Burnley, Brighton

 

Draw against Spurs, West Ham, Wolves

 

Lose against Man City, Liverpool (H) and (A) and Chelsea. 

 

Or perhaps 17 if we lose against West Ham. 

 

Ambitious, I know... 

 

But goes to show the inconsistency of the side but also the difficulty of the games coming up. 

 

As @coolhandfox says, it won't go like stated above - who knows, we might win against Man City and lose

against Brighton... 

@Flappit 3 of my wins I thought we would get haven't been played

 

Edited 10 February 2022 by StanSP

[Flappit]

On 06/12/2021 at 22:31, Ric Flair said:

We currently have 36 points in our last 28 league games under Rodgers. Anything less than 10-12 points in these next 10 league games is worse than Claue Puel did. Frightening. 

How's that looking almost 3 months on, Ric? 

[Flappit]

On 06/12/2021 at 15:43, Flappit said:

I'd genuinely love to hear what kind of results people are expecting us to get from those 12 games. I realise that surprises happen (we may lose at home to Norwich, or may beat Man City away) but they even out. Our form is atrocious and we're getting worse. Go on - give us your optimistic and realistic expectations of those games and we can look back with amusement in February.

 

Bonus point, Rodgers to be sacked after we draw at home to Brighton ;-)

Got part of that prediction right almost 3 months ago! 

Edited 23 February 2022 by Flappit

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, Flappit said:

How's that looking almost 3 months on, Ric? 

Horrid mate and very much on course for Claude Puel territory. No wins in 2022 like Puel's no wins in 2019 and Ranieri's no wins in 2017.

 

BIN

[jayfox26]

40 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Horrid mate and very much on course for Claude Puel territory. No wins in 2022 like Puel's no wins in 2019 and Ranieri's no wins in 2017.

 

BIN

If we don't beat Burnley, there is a decision to be made 

[ARM1968]

Can’t see beyond 8pts. Hope I’m wrong. 

[st albans fox]

8 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

If we don't beat Burnley, there is a decision to be made 

I keep repeating myself - they’ve lost three at home all season.  Why do you think we should expect to win there ???

[jayfox26]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I keep repeating myself - they’ve lost three at home all season.  Why do you think we should expect to win there ???

True, they do seem to draw alot. They've only won twice. Scored 10 and conceded 10. Not saying it will be easy, but if we want to end our hideous run of form and put to bed any relegation fears, then we have to win. They are a poor side regardless of them getting some good results recently. 

[majaco]

The last two league games have seen us play well but not win.  Burnley is going to be tough.   

[Nalis]

On 10/02/2022 at 21:35, Flappit said:

How are your predictions doing, folks? 

Glad you are ecstatic you were right so far.