New Covid Guidelines for Matches

[Robo61]

43 minutes ago, NAKC20 said:

So surely if you don't fill it in you can claim you knew nothing about it? CONFUSED .COM 

You could but they will argue it is your responsibilty to read correspondance from the club.  It is possible that the club will effectively cancel your ticket if you don't complte the form.

[NAKC20]

1 minute ago, Robo61 said:

You could but they will argue it is your responsibilty to read correspondance from the club.  It is possible that the club will effectively cancel your ticket if you don't complte the form.

The form has been filled in and an email received so I'm not concerned. Just cant see how it will work Thursday night (assuming the game is still on) as 99% of people would have bought their tickets before this announcement so if they only go once in a while they simply wont bother.

[Robo61]

2 minutes ago, NAKC20 said:

The form has been filled in and an email received so I'm not concerned. Just cant see how it will work Thursday night (assuming the game is still on) as 99% of people would have bought their tickets before this announcement so if they only go once in a while they simply wont bother.

I am guessing that in this occasion they will be let in,  but the club will have to be seen to be doing their level best to comply with what is now, or very soon will be, the law.

[justfoxes]

8 hours ago, Spudulike said:

So will security really deny entry to a fan without an NHS Covid Pass? Don't think that has happened so far, that I'm aware. 

Unfortunately from tomorrow if you can’t prove your Covid Status by either Covid Passport or that of a recent Negative LFT within 24-48 hours then the club have the right to refuse admission to the ground, the club are only following covid policies passed down by the Premier League.

 

Edited 14 December 2021 by justfoxes

[Robo61]

5 minutes ago, justfoxes said:

Unfortunately from tomorrow if you can’t prove your Covid Status by either Covid Passport or that of a recent LFT within 24 hours then the club have the right to refuse admission to the ground, the club are only following covid policies passed down by the Premier League.

 

After tonights vote in parliament,  come tomorrow morning it will be law,  nowt to do with the PL.

[justfoxes]

Just now, Robo61 said:

After tonights vote in parliament,  come tomorrow morning it will be law,  nowt to do with the PL.

Exactly so far it’s EPL it’s getting bad for healthcare too where Mandatory Vaccination is coming in next year whether we like it or not and unfortunately for some of my colleagues who refuse to get vaccinated are looking likely to lose their job !

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 hours ago, MrSpaM said:

I really don't see the point in them doing this, unless they are going to block entry to season tickets / supporter numbers who haven't filled in the declaration

 

Which in my case means I'm screwed, because the supporter number on my season ticket is linked to somebody else as it was purchased as a gift for me this year

This is the same predicament as a hypothetical situation I have just thought up. Giving your season ticket to a mate for a game here and there when you can’t go is very common - so on entry do they ensure that the name on the ticket corresponds to the name on the Covid pass? 
 

My one experience of this is that all they do is glance at your Covid pass. I don’t think they check names correspond or even that season tickets have a completed self declaration. Am I correct?

[Robo61]

11 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

This is the same predicament as a hypothetical situation I have just thought up. Giving your season ticket to a mate for a game here and there when you can’t go is very common - so on entry do they ensure that the name on the ticket corresponds to the name on the Covid pass? 
 

My one experience of this is that all they do is glance at your Covid pass. I don’t think they check names correspond or even that season tickets have a completed self declaration. Am I correct?

If theyvwant to ensure self declaration are completed all they need to do is cancel your ticket on their turnstile entry system,  your ticket would then not allow you in.

 

I think you should ignore your previous experience,  covid passports are now a legal requirement for entry,  so the club need to be seen to be doing all they can to ensure compliance or they run the risk of losing their safety certificate.  Doubt though that will include checking identity.

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

Won’t work, didn’t work at Wembley at all. Here’s your big problem though, you got a bunch of teenage agency workers who look way too scared to ask people. Be the same tomorrow night. 

[adam]

Are they meant to scan your QR code on the app as I have never seen anyone do that. 

[Unabomber]

So they want you to do that declaration form and show the app. What’s all that about?!

[Foxes1]

How does this work for away games. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 minutes ago, Foxes1 said:

How does this work for away games. 

Presumably just a Covid pass?

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Not sure any of the security at our ground or any other gets paid enough to get in to an altercation with someone coming in to the ground without the correct paperwork. 

[foxinsox]

2 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

This is the same predicament as a hypothetical situation I have just thought up. Giving your season ticket to a mate for a game here and there when you can’t go is very common - so on entry do they ensure that the name on the ticket corresponds to the name on the Covid pass? 
 

My one experience of this is that all they do is glance at your Covid pass. I don’t think they check names correspond or even that season tickets have a completed self declaration. Am I correct?

Yes, they didn't check it against the ticket when piloting it earlier in the year.

 

While against the rules, season tickets sharing within a family is fairly widespread. 

 

What I would advise is downloading the Covid pass as a pdf to the phone. Reception on my network is very slow at matches!

[Ric Flair]

How to they cater for exemptions with this? And I assume negative lateral flow is so easy to rig that it renders this absolutely pointless for those unvaccinated that still want to go to the football but stick two fingers up to the establishment. Always found it a stupid loophole, but granted it would be difficult to administer it any more robustly in such numbers.

[foxinsox]

17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

How to they cater for exemptions with this? And I assume negative lateral flow is so easy to rig that it renders this absolutely pointless for those unvaccinated that still want to go to the football but stick two fingers up to the establishment. Always found it a stupid loophole, but granted it would be difficult to administer it any more robustly in such numbers.

I believe that there is a fine if caught falsely reporting an LFT.

 

It's a hassle, but it is for the safety of everyone at the match. It is better than reduced capacity or no crowds, and there is real risk of that if people take the piss over the new rules.

[foxinsox]

37 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

Not sure any of the security at our ground or any other gets paid enough to get in to an altercation with someone coming in to the ground without the correct paperwork. 

Family simple to inactivate their ticket for future matches though.

[adam]

2 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

I believe that there is a fine if caught falsely reporting an LFT.

 

It's a hassle, but it is for the safety of everyone at the match. It is better than reduced capacity or no crowds, and there is real risk of that if people take the piss over the new rules.

How would anyone ever get fined for falsely reported an LFT? Impossible to prove. 

[Super_horns]

38 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

Not sure any of the security at our ground or any other gets paid enough to get in to an altercation with someone coming in to the ground without the correct paperwork. 

The stewards at our place have enough to deal with regarding the new ticket system !

[FoyleFox]

24 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

How to they cater for exemptions with this? And I assume negative lateral flow is so easy to rig that it renders this absolutely pointless for those unvaccinated that still want to go to the football but stick two fingers up to the establishment. Always found it a stupid loophole, but granted it would be difficult to administer it any more robustly in such numbers.

Medical exemptions can get a certificate to that effect, they show that instead.

 

 

[Filbert_Ross]

Very clear & simple process from the website  🙄

[Fox92]

13 hours ago, Unabomber said:

So they want you to do that declaration form and show the app. What’s all that about?!

I don't get the form. I haven't actually looked at it yet but why fill in a form if you've got a Covid pass anyway? If I get asked for my proof of vaccination then I'll show it, what's the form do?

[NAKC20]

16 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I don't get the form. I haven't actually looked at it yet but why fill in a form if you've got a Covid pass anyway? If I get asked for my proof of vaccination then I'll show it, what's the form do?

What I can make out and from what people are saying on here is the form has your season ticket/membership/supporter number on it. Going forward potentially your season ticket or the ticket you bought with that membership number could be blocked, denying you access into the stadium. I think that's right anyway and filling out the form takes 2 minutes so not worth the hassle of not doing it.

[RGFox]

22 hours ago, davieG said:

Been hot in the loos near G2 most games.

Seems like 50% don't even bother washing their hands, both before and after covid. They need to upgrade the toilets as part of the concourse revamp, not enough dryers or space.