Have we lost our momentum?

[FuriousFox46]

With the league season looking like a write-off, and European football out of reach, have we reached the end of our contesting the big 6 phase or do you think we can go again next season?

[Fox92]

We can go again.

[Silver surfer 1]

We are at a cross roads with Brendan .  This season has exposed his weakness , he’s not learning .  One step forward 2 steps back .  I trust whatever the club do .

[Aus Fox]

Just now, FuriousFox46 said:

With the league season looking like a write-off, and European football out of reach, have we reached the end of our contesting the big 6 phase or do you think we can go again next season?

We are half way through the season, still in European competition and the FA Cup.

I just can’t see the league as a write off this early, we also have 2 other routes back into Europe. 

[mod hero]

Just now, FuriousFox46 said:

With the league season looking like a write-off, and European football out of reach, have we reached the end of our contesting the big 6 phase or do you think we can go again next season?

This is the question. I think we need a bit of an overhaul and I’m not sure I trust Rodgers to over see it.

 

It would be interesting to see how we do when/if everyone is fit. Not sure we ever will under Rodgers 

[Aus Fox]

Just now, Silver surfer 1 said:

We are at a cross roads with Brendan .  This season has exposed his weakness , he’s not learning .  One step forward 2 steps back .  I trust whatever the club do .

Piss off with this crap, it’s been forward steps every single season he’s been here. A little bit of adversity and some of you melts lose all sense of reality.

[An Sionnach]

2 minutes ago, FuriousFox46 said:

With the league season looking like a write-off, and European football out of reach, have we reached the end of our contesting the big 6 phase or do you think we can go again next season?

With Evans,Vardy and Kasper reaching their mid-thirties , we may still be in transition and Youri's departure is almost certain so it won't be easy but we are will good enough for a top six challenge.

[Spudulike]

Amazing but not entirely unexpected this question would arise. I'm as pissed off as anyone about last nights farcical ending but a win on Sunday and we'll be off and running again. JJ is back and so might be Big Dan. We have some big matches coming up and we shouldn't be writing off anything. I'm up for it. 

[Supergray22]

4 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Piss off with this crap, it’s been forward steps every single season he’s been here. A little bit of adversity and some of you melts lose all sense of reality.

Well said. We should have won last night and won the previous two. Get a grip. 

Some older players true, which is a good thing given the number of great youngsters coming through. Amazing training ground new stadium upgrade coming and fantastic owners. FA cup holders FFS. Best period I’ve seen in my fifty years supporting the city

[Tielemans63]

15 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Piss off with this crap, it’s been forward steps every single season he’s been here. A little bit of adversity and some of you melts lose all sense of reality.

 spot on as usual Aus

Edited 20 January 2022 by Tielemans63

[StanSP]

We most definitely can go again. 

[Mike Oxlong]

22 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Piss off with this crap, it’s been forward steps every single season he’s been here. A little bit of adversity and some of you melts lose all sense of reality.

Don’t agree. This season hasn’t been a forward step albeit that there have been significant mitigating circumstances. We have become more and more negative with the ball but hopefully that will improve with the return of the likes of Justin, Fofana and Ricky P. The one thing I can’t rationalise is how many goals we have scored notwithstanding the extent that we play backwards and sideways . We really can be very good on the front foot and I wonder if we didn’t fanny around with the ball so much at the back whether we might be doing a Kevin Keegan Newcastle and winning games 5-4 or 4-3 rather than losing them due to our porous defence. 

[Unabomber]

Bring Pearson back as joint manager with Brendan then we have best of both worlds. I wonder why no club has had joint managers before? Could be on to something.

[Vardinio'sCat]

Linear progress would be a surprise, it's almost bound to be in fits and starts.

[sacreblueits442]

34 minutes ago, Silver surfer 1 said:

We are at a cross roads with Brendan .  This season has exposed his weakness , he’s not learning .  One step forward 2 steps back .  I trust whatever the club do .

...I  am sure that had been picked up long before!!!

[fox_up_north]

2 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Bring Pearson back as joint manager with Brendan then we have best of both worlds. I wonder why no club has had joint managers before? Could be on to something.

Pearson was great but not sure he'd be suited to where we are now. Would love to see him do a Dyche, though and get another club promoted then stick with them. 

 

Also - can you imagine the headache of a club sacking TWO managers? And who gets the blame?

[Unabomber]

1 minute ago, fox_up_north said:

Pearson was great but not sure he'd be suited to where we are now. Would love to see him do a Dyche, though and get another club promoted then stick with them. 

 

Also - can you imagine the headache of a club sacking TWO managers? And who gets the blame?

Brendan would get the blame 

[sacreblueits442]

11 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Bring Pearson back as joint manager with Brendan then we have best of both worlds. I wonder why no club has had joint managers before? Could be on to something.

.. even Clough and Taylor  fell out!!!

  Someone has to have the last say, two people with strong personalities are not going to work well  together.  Pearson deferring to Rodgers is not something that I can see. Now Shakespeare coming in as a no.2 would make a lot more  sense.

Edited 20 January 2022 by sacreblueits442
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[Mike Oxlong]

If we’re going to have a double management team I’d like Puel-Megson please 

[Unabomber]

1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.. even Clough and Taylor  fell out!!!

  Someone has to have the last say, two people with strong personalities are not going to work well  together.  Pearson differing to Rodgers is not something that I can see. Now Shakespeare coming in as a no.2 would make a lot more  sense.

Maybe we could have a trio Rodgers Pearson and Shakespeare?

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

If we’re going to have a double management team I’d like Puel-Megson please 

You would chose that over Prodgers? 

[marbles]

No manager.

They can just come on here before every game, and be given the lineup and strategies.

Then check back at halftime for any adjustment s that might be needed.

 

smh

 

 

[Mike Oxlong]

2 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

You would chose that over Prodgers? 

I don’t think Prodgers would work 

 

Nigel would deck him in their post match interviews 

[smudgerfox]

I think we are approaching a crossroads 

we can keep going if we can keep the players but if ultimately the football world concludes we’re perennial nearly men, the best players will leave and they’ll be harder to replace…if we’d got CL last season and were pushing for it again would Youri be planning to leave? 
if he goes won’t Maddison, NDidi, Castagne, Forfana decide it might be time for them to go too? This is why the PL finishing place last season and the Europa fiasco this season are really damaging. We haven’t demonstrated we are a club which belongs at or near the top..

 

the fact is we are miles behind Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool and Utd, Arse and Sperz will be tougher to compete with - both on the pitch and in the transfer market from now on. West Ham have overtaken us and Newcastle and Villa will be a different prospect in the months and years to come, All of which means we need to improve more quickly just to stand still …

 

plus of course BR’s occasional admission  that we can’t compete with the top six merely confirms that we are nothing more than a great club prior to a top six move. 

Edited 20 January 2022 by smudgerfox

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

Piss off with this crap, it’s been forward steps every single season he’s been here. A little bit of adversity and some of you melts lose all sense of reality.

 

Our poor form this season is hardly going to encourage our better players to sign a new contract in the summer when they could easily get European football elsewhere 

 

We won’t be able to shift our deadwood because they’ve proven to be useless 

 

We ARE at a crossroads with Rodgers and as a club, whether you like it or not. 
 

Given that 3 years years on he still rates Perez, it doesn’t bode well for us getting a replacement for Vestergaard 

 

 

We can continue with him and he somehow manages to pull it round. I’ve seen glimmers of hope recently but given Hamza won MOTM two weeks ago as a CB who’s then been dropped for that position in favour of Vestergaard last night, I don’t see how that’ll be possible. He can’t keep relying on injured players coming back in when more often than not, there’s almost an injury occurrence per week.

 

We can continue with him and our season gets worse and worse. We’ll start next season with aims of PL survival, in the same way clubs like Southampton and Palace first and foremost set as their target.  That’s a far cry from what our targets would’ve been before this current season kicked off. 
 

Or we could get rid and start afresh, potentially salvage something of this season and kick on the next with a fresh direction

 

Liverpool (h) aside, the players don’t look like they believe in Rodgers’ football anymore. Everything around the club is stale as fcuk, players have no interest, the fans are divided and we’re absolutely shite on the pitch. 
 

Rodgers now has us playing worse than the side he inherited, albeit with a better, more talented squad. How is that possible?

 

Every club who suffers a downfall in stature can point to a pivotal moment in history that kickstarted the downturn. l honestly believe this could be ours 

 

It’s people with your attitude of calling everyone ‘melts’ who’ll allow (long term) the club to sleepwalk their way into Premier League relegation scraps, or worse. 
 

Why? Because apparently we shouldn’t hold an FA Cup winning manager to account? Bravo 

Edited 20 January 2022 by The Year Of The Fox