Rodgers In/Out

[seanymac]

On 07/02/2022 at 18:29, bennytwohats said:

Given where we were when he took over, and the success he has brought, he still has a little bit of credit in the bank for me, so in, but only just.

 

To be honest I can totally understand why people would feel differently and want him gone at this point, but the speed with which some people jumped on him, and the venom in some of the views here really is quite jarring for me (just to be crystal clear, I'm not suggesting this is everyone who wants him gone). I can handle a season of relative mediocracy after the glory years we are coming off the back off - yes I understand we've fallen short of expectations, but from what I can see a large proportion of our fans are acting like spoilt, entitled children. I find it baffling that there are people willing us to lose so we can offload him quicker, rather than willing us to turn a corner and get back on track with him - it's a funny interpretation of supporting your club imo. Between that and the increasingly embarrassing actions of some thugs masquerading as Leicester fans I'm beginning to feel quite turned off the football right now - for me that's more jarring than what we are seeing on the pitch.

well said Benny two hats.  I can't abide the negativity.  Fans acting like this is a crisis.  Worst day to be a Leicester fan etc.  Absolute nonsense.  Backing the team includes backing the manager and not throwing your toys out the pram because we haven't established ourselves amongst the top four.  Neither have spurs, neither have Arsenal, neither have West Ham, nor Wolves nor Everton nor any other club who has spent considerable more than us to have achieved far far less tan we have achieved in the past three seasons under Rogers.  Considering he is by far and away our most successful manager over a number of seasons I find the criticism bizarre and the desire to what rid even more perplexing.  Who are these fans bringing in to replace him?  

[Foxdiamond]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Be releastic, it's not gonna happen. Are Watford/Norwich/Burnley gonna start winning every week?

Sorry about this but I am terrible as I always expect the worst when it comes to LCFC. I think this made the League win and FA cup wins all the more amazing. Do any of you think we could be dragged into a relegation fight this Season?

[BenTheFox]

10 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Sorry about this but I am terrible as I always expect the worst when it comes to LCFC. I think this made the League win and FA cup wins all the more amazing. Do any of you think we could be dragged into a relegation fight this Season?

If he we hit a truly horrendous run of results. However, if that happens a decision on the manager will be made. 

[deep blue]

2 hours ago, Stadt said:

There's not any benefit to getting rid in the summer rather than now. We need a rebuild, Rodgers' hand in recruitment has been toss so having him in charge for our biggest rebuild (ever?) in a while just isn't going to end well.

 

A new manager can come in, assess the state of the squad, where we need to improve and can get the wheels in seems to be as long as seems to be as for a restructuring; if we get a new manager in over the summer they come  he can be effective at the clubs he's managed,ģp blind.

 

I agree with this. Not forgetting, too, that we brought in Rodgers at a similar time too, and that worked well at first.  I think Rodgers time at the club has simply wound down now.  Three years seems to be his limit with any club he manages.

[tickler28]

The hatred towards Rodgers is so often knee jerk.....its like betting on a horse which you think is gonna win the race and when it falls at the first hurdle you throw a tantrum....call it all the names under the sun and rip up your betting slip....tell yourself you'll never bet on that horse ever again and turn off the tele

[The_77]

18 minutes ago, seanymac said:

well said Benny two hats.  I can't abide the negativity.  Fans acting like this is a crisis.  Worst day to be a Leicester fan etc.  Absolute nonsense.  Backing the team includes backing the manager and not throwing your toys out the pram because we haven't established ourselves amongst the top four.  Neither have spurs, neither have Arsenal, neither have West Ham, nor Wolves nor Everton nor any other club who has spent considerable more than us to have achieved far far less tan we have achieved in the past three seasons under Rogers.  Considering he is by far and away our most successful manager over a number of seasons I find the criticism bizarre and the desire to what rid even more perplexing.  Who are these fans bringing in to replace him?  

This is a completely made up commentary. Yeah, there were emotional responses immediately after the game but most of the reactions, including those on here lately, have been fairly reasonable. 
 

If it makes you feel better to call other fans little children, then fine, there’s not much to say about that. Nobody expects us to be top 4 right now.

If you think Rodgers came in and saved us from Claude Puel, then I’d suggest starting to think about succession planning because we’ve headed right back to where we were then. 
 

People are rightly frustrated by what’s gone on for a year aside from the FA Cup and have concerns about Rodgers being the man to oversee our rebuild, especially after recent reports about the Bertrand and Vestergaard transfers. 

 

Rodgers is a brilliant football man. He deserves credit and he understands the game better than any of us ever will but he also has a pattern at his clubs, a (well-documented) huge ego, and doesn’t seem to have the answers we need right now. 
 

As long as we continue to make the proper investments in infrastructure and recruitment, we won’t abandon any chance at success when the time comes to move on from Rodgers. 

[Babylon]

4 hours ago, ian__marshall said:

Good point Babs but the same applies to the summer. The one thing we need to avoid at all costs is a long protracted process over preseason leaving any appointment no time to prepare the squad for the season ahead. Even if we don't find the right manager now it improves the likelihood of having someone in place ahead of the new season. 

You would hope they do their due diligence now to know for sure it’s going to happen. 

[Vestan Pance]

2 hours ago, seanymac said:

Who are these fans bringing in to replace him?  

Nobody, being as they have no say in the process of sacking or hiring managers. I wouldn't imagine for one minute that those actually making the decisions give a wet fart what is said on here.

Edited 9 February 2022 by Vestan Pance

[Spudulike]

This is starting to whiff of the Pearsonites vs the NFP's all over again. So many entrenched positions. A split fan base is all we need 

[Lako42]

11 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

This is starting to whiff of the Pearsonites vs the NFP's all over again. So many entrenched positions. A split fan base is all we need 

Can't wait for Sunday when Moysey has BR's pants round his ankles for the 48000th time. 

 

Will be a cracking buzz amongst the fans 

 

 

Edited 9 February 2022 by Lako42

[Fox92]

4 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Sorry about this but I am terrible as I always expect the worst when it comes to LCFC. I think this made the League win and FA cup wins all the more amazing. Do any of you think we could be dragged into a relegation fight this Season?

No, absolutely not.

[Fox92]

5 hours ago, erlee said:

FFS..he is the 4th highest paid manager in the EPL...and we can't even be top 8 or 6 or 4

• 1. Pep Guardiola
  Club: Manchester City
  Base Salary: £20million
• 2. Jurgen Klopp
  Club: Liverpool
  Base Salary: £15million
• 3. Antonio Conte
  Club: Tottenham Hotspur
  Base Salary: £15million
• 4. Brendan Rodgers
  Club: Leicester City
  Base Salary: £10million

This season we can't which is 1 out of 3 seasons.

 

Pep has managed Man City for 5 seasons (excluding this season). I'm guessing, since his arrival he has been the highest paid manager in the league. He has finished 1st (Champions) 3 times. So you think the other two times he underachieved? And do you think Man City should have got rid of him?

 

Using the manager's wage as the measure for success isn't right.

Edited 9 February 2022 by Fox92

[CosbehFox]

4 hours ago, seanymac said:

well said Benny two hats.  I can't abide the negativity.  Fans acting like this is a crisis.  Worst day to be a Leicester fan etc.  Absolute nonsense.  Backing the team includes backing the manager and not throwing your toys out the pram because we haven't established ourselves amongst the top four.  Neither have spurs, neither have Arsenal, neither have West Ham, nor Wolves nor Everton nor any other club who has spent considerable more than us to have achieved far far less tan we have achieved in the past three seasons under Rogers.  Considering he is by far and away our most successful manager over a number of seasons I find the criticism bizarre and the desire to what rid even more perplexing.  Who are these fans bringing in to replace him?  

It’s got nothing to do with establishing ourselves among the top four or top six for me. 
 

For me it’s the awful, passion less losses to teams we are far better in quality but can’t get to grips with physicality or high tempo. It’s not once, it’s multiple occasions. Forest was a repeat of Legia which was a repeat of Slavia. Then there’s the losses to Bournemouth, Norwich and Villa in crucial games. I accept injuries but I’d like to think a team 10th in the PL can still see off a 8th in the Championship or a team in the relegation zone of the Polish top flight. 

[Dahnsouff]

5 hours ago, erlee said:

FFS..he is the 4th highest paid manager in the EPL...and we can't even be top 8 or 6 or 4

• 1. Pep Guardiola
  Club: Manchester City
  Base Salary: £20million
• 2. Jurgen Klopp
  Club: Liverpool
  Base Salary: £15million
• 3. Antonio Conte
  Club: Tottenham Hotspur
  Base Salary: £15million
• 4. Brendan Rodgers
  Club: Leicester City
  Base Salary: £10million

Unless Brendan has to buy new signings out of his own pocket, I am not sure this tells the whole story  

[seanymac]

4 hours ago, The_77 said:

This is a completely made up commentary. Yeah, there were emotional responses immediately after the game but most of the reactions, including those on here lately, have been fairly reasonable. 
 

If it makes you feel better to call other fans little children, then fine, there’s not much to say about that. Nobody expects us to be top 4 right now.

If you think Rodgers came in and saved us from Claude Puel, then I’d suggest starting to think about succession planning because we’ve headed right back to where we were then. 
 

People are rightly frustrated by what’s gone on for a year aside from the FA Cup and have concerns about Rodgers being the man to oversee our rebuild, especially after recent reports about the Bertrand and Vestergaard transfers. 

 

Rodgers is a brilliant football man. He deserves credit and he understands the game better than any of us ever will but he also has a pattern at his clubs, a (well-documented) huge ego, and doesn’t seem to have the answers we need right now. 
 

As long as we continue to make the proper investments in infrastructure and recruitment, we won’t abandon any chance at success when the time comes to move on from Rodgers. 

It's not  amad eup commentary. It's a reflection of what I see.  This entire board is a litany of fans demanding the head of someone I perceive as a manager who for the most part been a major success.   I do understand the anger, I understand this season has been immensely disappointing but I would also like to see some balance and acknowledgement that actually this is an unprecedented period of success in Leicester's history and he has been a central cog in that achievement.  I also don't comprehend how being in the top four and falling out at the death is worse than being fifth all season or equally having been placed lower and finishing fifth on the last day.  In fairness to yourself 77, you are one of the few who at least recognise Rogers has done a decent job.  As I say I understand the frustration and anger but not the hyperbole and the panic.  I've been a Leicester fan for over thirty years and if we finish in the top ten this season it will still be one of the best seasons Leicester have enjoyed in that time so I can't get on board with the negativity.  

Edited 9 February 2022 by seanymac

[The Year Of The Fox]

Going to have to hope some videos of Rodgers kicking his cat emerge to turn some of these voters against him 

[The_77]

13 minutes ago, seanymac said:

It's not  amad eup commentary. It's a reflection of what I see.  This entire board is a litany of fans demanding the head of someone I perceive as a manager who for the most part been a major success.   I do understand the anger, I understand this season has been immensely disappointing but I would also like to see some balance and acknowledgement that actually this is an unprecedented period of success in Leicester's history and he has been a central cog in that achievement.  I also don't comprehend how being in the top four and falling out at the death is worse than being fifth all season or equally having been placed lower and finishing fifth on the last day.  In fairness to yourself 77, you are one of the few who at least recognise Rogers has done a decent job.  As I say I understand the frustration and anger but not the hyperbole and the panic.  I've been a Leicester fan for over thirty years and if we finish in the top ten this season it will still be one of the best seasons Leicester have enjoyed in that time so I can't get on board with the negativity.  

I think everyone would be a lot better if we didn’t get humiliated by Forest. That’s an ignominy that shouldn’t happen wherever we happen to be on the football pyramid! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry about Sunday, ha. 

 

I agree, though, yes, this is still one of the best seasons we’ve ever had. That said, we are still facing a massive transition. The question right now shouldn’t be what we do about this season, that’s pretty much a write off by now (barring something extraordinary), but what do we do to position ourselves as best as we can going forward? 
 

We’re on our biggest net spend (probably) ever, which still left us a bit shorthanded. The bulk of our investments have gone into Seagrave and the stadium expansion project to follow, and a wage bill that’s proven difficult for us to control. I expect more of the same unless we get any Maguire-type fees this summer. 
 

Is it time to reset expectations? Maybe. But if we’re going to be a mediocre Premier League team for a bit, let’s at least see a little fight and have an identity. We haven’t had much for that for a long time.  

 

Let’s have our manager quit the self-preservation nonsense every interview and start showing us how he’s improving our players even if the results aren’t there. 

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, Spudulike said:

This is starting to whiff of the Pearsonites vs the NFP's all over again. So many entrenched positions. A split fan base is all we need 

...is that not, Pearson v Pearson!!!

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, seanymac said:

also don't comprehend how being in the top four and falling out at the death is worse than being fifth all season or equally having been placed lower and finishing fifth on the last day. 

...when you have been 4th nearly all season and finish 5th on the last day, it means that you have lost something that you had!!!

  It is very much the way we slipped away on two occasions that causes the concerns. 

 Rodgers claims he now wants people around him that have a winning mentality, that is, what ever you have achieved last season is put to one side, it means nothing for the new season. Looking back and stating we were in league 1 and winning the F A. Cup and Charity Shield is not how wants his players to be viewing the season, that was yesterday, it means nothing right now.

Edited 9 February 2022 by sacreblueits442
Spelling error.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

10 hours ago, seanymac said:

well said Benny two hats.  I can't abide the negativity.  Fans acting like this is a crisis.  Worst day to be a Leicester fan etc.  Absolute nonsense.  Backing the team includes backing the manager and not throwing your toys out the pram because we haven't established ourselves amongst the top four.  Neither have spurs, neither have Arsenal, neither have West Ham, nor Wolves nor Everton nor any other club who has spent considerable more than us to have achieved far far less tan we have achieved in the past three seasons under Rogers.  Considering he is by far and away our most successful manager over a number of seasons I find the criticism bizarre and the desire to what rid even more perplexing.  Who are these fans bringing in to replace him?  

I’ve changed my mind - partly because of what’s above. He deserves and has earned the right to rebuild - and anyway when we have a fully fit squad it’ll be more about clearing out the deadwood, so don’t think it’s as big as some think.

 

Rodger’s in!

[volpeazzurro]

15 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I’ve changed my mind - partly because of what’s above. He deserves and has earned the right to rebuild - and anyway when we have a fully fit squad it’ll be more about clearing out the deadwood, so don’t think it’s as big as some think.

 

Rodger’s in!

Can't see the wood for the trees. Rodgers is the dead wood.

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

On 07/02/2022 at 14:29, Dirkster the Fox said:

I'm sticking with Brendan. Sure this season has become a turd, but would prefer stability until the summer and re-assess.

We may well lose on Sunday against a good team. We might sneak a surprise win.  That's football.

 

Many an opinion has been cast about Brendan and our current situation, but personally, even if we lose on Sunday, I still want him to stay until the club can evaluate what's best for us long-term. If its Brendan, then that's fine with me.

 

I don't think he's lost the dressing room and I don't think its good for a football club to make knee jerk reactions.

 

As a group of fans, can we just unite behind the team and manager until at least the end of the season/or when the club makes a call, then see what happens........

[LestaAl]

Poor tactics, poor subs, indifferent recruitment, failure to address several fundamentals, overall record poor in the last year in the PL.

Give him to the end of the season then chop.

…yes he got us the FA cup but so what , it’s treated with ridicule by most top 8 clubs these days - progressing in Europe and the PL are what counts for the long term success of the club.

[kingkisnorbo]

13 minutes ago, LestaAl said:

Poor tactics, poor subs, indifferent recruitment, failure to address several fundamentals, overall record poor in the last year in the PL.

Give him to the end of the season then chop.

…yes he got us the FA cup but so what , it’s treated with ridicule by most top 8 clubs these days - progressing in Europe and the PL are what counts for the long term success of the club.

I agree with your sentiment, I’m pretty firmly in the Rodgers Out camp. But, the FA cup means more to me than Europe. I understand the financial benefits of qualifying for the top four but give me that or a tangible piece of silverware, I’m going for the latter every time. I also think it’s a bit of a misnomer about ‘big’ clubs not caring about the cups. In theory yes, the owners of said clubs wouldn’t look as favourably on the cups, but I know genuine match going fans of most of the teams I think you’re getting at and the FA cup comes very near the top of all of their lists. 

[coolhandfox]

24 minutes ago, LestaAl said:

Poor tactics, poor subs, indifferent recruitment, failure to address several fundamentals, overall record poor in the last year in the PL.

Give him to the end of the season then chop.

…yes he got us the FA cup but so what , it’s treated with ridicule by most top 8 clubs these days - progressing in Europe and the PL are what counts for the long term success of the club.

I think a few of the current top 8 would love to win it as for the rest I think they would too........ 

 

Spurs haven't won a trophy in 14 years.

West Ham 41 years 

Wovles 41 years 

 

As for the rest of the league.

 

Brighton never

Southampton 45 years

Villa 25 years 

Palace 30 years 

Brentford never 

Leeds 29 years 

Everton 26 years

Newcastle 66 years

Norwich 36 years 

Watford never 

Burnley 61 years 

 

Kasper Schmeichel -'I would rather win trophies. When I retire I won't look back at the times we finished fourth.'

 

Take it when Youri smashed in the winner you didn't celebrate? 

Edited 18 February 2022 by coolhandfox