sm1 Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 He deserved his chance but hasn't taken it. Watching him trying to get up before the first goal, was like watching a turtle on his back. 3
Devonfox1884 Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 He’s not good enough, but if I’m honest I’m not convinced Iversen would be either. Wouldn’t hurt to give him a chance though, would either give us the confirmation that we would need a new keeper or save us a good amount of money if he stepped up. It’s sad because I don’t think Ward is the utter car crash he’s being made out to be. I think he’d be one of the better goalkeepers in the championship, but the margins are so fine in the PL and he’s simply not up to the standard of this league. 1
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 I would say Ward is as bad as Mark Grew all those years ago he was shocking and Ward is on a par awful keeper 3
ElusiveEd Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 I don't think he's a bad keeper, he's had his really bad moments/games which stand out but he's pulled off a few saves to remember too. He just doesn't instil the confidence I had in Kaspar or I would have in any other big name keeper. I always felt assured with the presence of Kaspar between the sticks but with Ward, I just get apprehensive and nervous. We are certainly more vulnerable with him as our shot stopper. Against Villa I had more faith in our defenders than of late, as long as it didn't get as far as Ward having to get involved.
It'sblueupnorth Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 36 minutes ago, ElusiveEd said: I don't think he's a bad keeper, he's had his really bad moments/games which stand out but he's pulled off a few saves to remember too. He just doesn't instil the confidence I had in Kaspar or I would have in any other big name keeper. I always felt assured with the presence of Kaspar between the sticks but with Ward, I just get apprehensive and nervous. We are certainly more vulnerable with him as our shot stopper. Against Villa I had more faith in our defenders than of late, as long as it didn't get as far as Ward having to get involved. Has he? The only worldie save he’s pulled off that I can remember was a header he tipped onto the bar against spurs…where he still conceded 6. I honestly can’t think of more than 1, during that 6 game spell before the wc he did make some routine stops and looked far more assured but unfortunately for us it was just a flash in the pan 1
Jimothy Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 5 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said: Has he? The only worldie save he’s pulled off that I can remember was a header he tipped onto the bar against spurs…where he still conceded 6. I honestly can’t think of more than 1, during that 6 game spell before the wc he did make some routine stops and looked far more assured but unfortunately for us it was just a flash in the pan Made a great save v West Ham tipping a lob over the bar. Has been nominated for save of the month 3 times I think, so obviously someone thinks he's made some good saves.
fox_up_north Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 Mixed on this. If Kasper leaving caught everyone off guard, then I can see plenty of clubs whacking up the price tag on a keeper - which would have made a summer signing harder - especially as we only signed Faes. Not sorting it in January, in isolation, I can understand. Other areas need addressing and you might as well try and outscore the opposition. We also don't have massive pockets either. But, I fail to see why giving Iversen a go is such a band thing. Could he be worse than Ward? Maybe. But we've already conceded plenty so whatever. If he's rubbish then at least you gave it a go and we just pray we scrape 4-5 more wins (which I think is doable). If he's capable then you say goodbye to Ward in summer, bring in a proper No. 1 and let Iversen keep developing. 1
It'sblueupnorth Posted 5 February 2023 Posted 5 February 2023 9 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Made a great save v West Ham tipping a lob over the bar. Has been nominated for save of the month 3 times I think, so obviously someone thinks he's made some good saves. The lob v West Ham from what I remember was routine, it was a header with little pace on from 18 yards out. He didn’t even tip it over the bar he scooped it out. Maybe my expectation of a great save is at too high a level. But he’s not made a save bar 1 that I wouldn’t expect him to make. I would be interested to know the 3 saves he’s got nominated for save of the month though? 2
Jimothy Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 5 hours ago, It'sblueupnorth said: The lob v West Ham from what I remember was routine, it was a header with little pace on from 18 yards out. He didn’t even tip it over the bar he scooped it out. Maybe my expectation of a great save is at too high a level. But he’s not made a save bar 1 that I wouldn’t expect him to make. I would be interested to know the 3 saves he’s got nominated for save of the month though? Sorry I can't remember the saves, just remember him making the nominees.
smudger63 Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 1 hour ago, Facecloth said: Sorry I can't remember the saves, just remember him making the nominees. Must have been some very routine saves in those months then, because I honestly don't remember him making any save you wouldn't expect a run of the mill keeper to make. Although the feeling seems to be that we had other areas we had to address in the transfer window, and we did, the truth is, the goalkeeper is a massively important area, because he can effect the performance of the whole defence. I mentioned before an interview with Lee Dixon talking about Ramsdale at Arsenal, and how much of an impact he has had on their defence. He said that as a defender if you are worried about the keeper, it can have an impact on how you defend, and decisions you make, but if you have confidence in your keeper it allows you to just concentrate on your own game. For me, bringing in a keeper in January was one of the priorities, especially as we were going to spend 20 million on Harrison, so clearly there was money there to bring a keeper in
Popular Post surrifox Posted 6 February 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 February 2023 The £12 mill we paid Liverpool for him will be money well spent if it prevents us ever buying anyone from them again 2 3
BillyFOX12 Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 3 minutes ago, surrifox said: The £12 mill we paid Liverpool for him will be money well spent if it prevents us ever buying anyone from them again He had 3 PL starts in those 7 years there, we got conned. 1
Popular Post ian__marshall Posted 6 February 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 February 2023 You know it's bad when you're watching a 5 minute documentary on MOTD and he's holding some poor kids Bird Box and you're just hoping that he doesn't drop it. 14
Nick Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 8 minutes ago, ian__marshall said: You know it's bad when you're watching a 5 minute documentary on MOTD and he's holding some poor kids Bird Box and you're just hoping that he doesn't drop it.
yorkie1999 Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 Villa fan at work who went, first thing he say's this morning about the game, good goalie, made some decent saves. Maybe we expect too much. 1
Jobyfox Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 To some extent we just have to give Ward as much of our support as possible as the moment to bring in a replacement, the January transfer window, has gone. One thing I am slightly confused about is how ready Iversen is as a Ward replacement. There are those who say he should be given a go and those who say he's not very good. I haven't seen enough of him, for long enough, to make an informed judgment, but I do know that he has done very well whilst on loan in the Championship. We often conjecture that the better performers in the Championship should be given a try in the Premier League. If Iversen has proven himself there - then isn't he worth a go?
Popular Post phoneticerror Posted 6 February 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 February 2023 1 minute ago, Jobyfox said: To some extent we just have to give Ward as much of our support as possible as the moment to bring in a replacement, the January transfer window, has gone. One thing I am slightly confused about is how ready Iversen is as a Ward replacement. There are those who say he should be given a go and those who say he's not very good. I haven't seen enough of him, for long enough, to make an informed judgment, but I do know that he has done very well whilst on loan in the Championship. We often conjecture that the better performers in the Championship should be given a try in the Premier League. If Iversen has proven himself there - then isn't he worth a go? He can’t be much more unprepared than Ward. He looked like a cowboy being shot in a western when the first goal went in on Saturday. 5
It'sblueupnorth Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 5 minutes ago, phoneticerror said: He can’t be much more unprepared than Ward. He looked like a cowboy being shot in a western when the first goal went in on Saturday. Warden, start the wave! 😂 1
filbertway Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 Weird the amount of stick he's received for that goal. 1
Number 6 Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 We had 4 positions to try and fill in Jan: GK, CB, LB, RW. We got 3 of them. Goalkeeper needed in the summer. 1
suffolk fox Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 Ward is so slow to react. Villas first goal, it was like watching a slug trying to spring into action, after the ball had hit the bar, a goalkeeper trains to save one shot then spring up quickly to try and save another shot Ward obviously doesnt do this. Good job Coutinho was offside for their disallowed goal, how on earth did that squirm in? Watching back later on tv Ward again culpable. I am afraid I am still sticking to my view he is the worst keeper we have ever had and we have had a few howlers. Ward is nowhere near a premier league goalkeeper he is truly awful. 2
It'sblueupnorth Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 4 minutes ago, filbertway said: Weird the amount of stick he's received for that goal. Yeah I will agree, although he’s not getting enough stick for the 2nd or ruled out 3rd
Tommy G Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 My spidey senses tell me a GK will be out top priority in the summer window
filbertway Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 Just now, It'sblueupnorth said: Yeah I will agree, although he’s not getting enough stick for the 2nd or ruled out 3rd I don't see how he's at fault for any of them. Not at fault for the 2nd in my opinion either, seems like that's just an unfortunate deflection. No highlights on youtube seem to be showing the disallowed Coutinho goal so I can't comment
Jobyfox Posted 6 February 2023 Posted 6 February 2023 18 minutes ago, suffolk fox said: Ward is so slow to react. Villas first goal, it was like watching a slug trying to spring into action, after the ball had hit the bar, a goalkeeper trains to save one shot then spring up quickly to try and save another shot Ward obviously doesnt do this. Good job Coutinho was offside for their disallowed goal, how on earth did that squirm in? Watching back later on tv Ward again culpable. I am afraid I am still sticking to my view he is the worst keeper we have ever had and we have had a few howlers. Ward is nowhere near a premier league goalkeeper he is truly awful. Worse than all of Kevin Pressman, Rab Douglas, Zeljko Kalac and Ricardo? 1
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