Where did it go wrong for you?

[BrianSwan]

I write this as a curious outsider, and by no means wish to wind up anyone.

 

Leicester have been held up as a pillar for the rest of the clubs in the English pyramid as a model professional club. Where if you do everything right, you can beat the odds and win trophies vs the wealth of oil states, doing a 'Leicester'. What has happened the past two years? is it just impossible to keep replacing the players who leave with equal quality after a while? Have you lost key people in recruitment? Southampton had a similiar thing, at one point they had Tadic, Mane, Van Dijk etc

 

I hope the new manager can sort it out for you.

[foxfanazer]

Giving Rodgers a new contract when Arsenal and Spurs came sniffing

[Shane]

Not sacking him after the Forest game

[StanSP]

Poor transfers. 

Bad results. 

Lack of consistency. 

A manager throwing players under the bus. 

A manager draining the confidence. 

A manager blaming the fans. 

A manager sucking the life out of the club. 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Lack of strong mentality

[Motty]

europa conference semi final

[lcfcell]

half way through the 19/20 season. 

[Area88]

First game of the season when we looked so good and then capitulated.

 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Area88 said:

First game of the season when we looked so good and then capitulated.

 

The rot set in long before that

[Fox92]

I said years ago, people recall Liverpool and Man City defeats across Christmas 19-20 but the week before we drew at home to Norwich 1-1 and it was a shocking performance. Since then it's been inconsistent.

 

But we haven't improved the team. Last summer's new players have not improved the team. And ultimately we have sold better players. It's not something any club can sustain.

[Lionator]

I don’t feel there was a specific point where it went wrong but there were plenty of signs that while Rodgers can coach good football, he is a terrible manager psychology wise. The early examples were the Villa semi final where we completely froze and then the Bournemouth capitulation. He has simply never been able to inject positivity back into the squad since the 9-0 really. 
 

What we see with the success under Pearson and Ranieri, and with Pep and Klopp is that psychology is most important in the modern game, Rodgers either ignores that or doesn’t have the man management skills to implement it. 

[hejammy]

Forest game is when I switched to the Brendan out camp if I'm honest. 

[Shane]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I said years ago, people recall Liverpool and Man City defeats across Christmas 19-20 but the week before we drew at home to Norwich 1-1 and it was a shocking performance. Since then it's been inconsistent.

 

But we haven't improved the team. Last summer's new players have not improved the team. And ultimately we have sold better players. It's not something any club can sustain.

I wonder how much of an impact Brendan has had on our signings? Hasn’t he said in the past he gets the final say? It must be difficult to find players he’s happy with.

[Matt]

Changing style.

 

I'll go back to the season after our league win we were apparently 'found out', apparently it wasn't sustainable, so we ripped that up and went down the style the majority of other clubs play, the boring, insipid, disgusting style, every team matching each other up, playing exactly the same making for a boring game period.

 

We're now been playing the tippy tappy shite, sideways, backwards, the so called 'way to play football', apparently a sustainable and 'pretty' style for 5 years now, it's clear we've been found out, so how long are we going to continue with it? Bearing in mind we instantly ripped up our old style because we'd been 'found out'.

 

I'm not sure it's ever been good, exciting, positive or pretty and if you ain't got the players to play in such a way I don't see how its particularly sustainable.

 

Many of the players we have are suited to our old style, we still sign many players largely suited to our old style, yet there is a brief from someone in the club. the board? That we want to go down the route playing in this way, the club is confused.

 

This isn't me looking back and admiring nostalgically, I just wanna see effective football, there is a time and place for the tippy tappy we are exclusively playing but there lies the problem, we're playing it exclusively. Mix it up. (That goes for the game in general)

  

Edited 18 September 2022 by Matt

[FoxinNotts]

Forest away in the cup.

Rome away in the ECL

[funkyrobot]

10 minutes ago, BrianSwan said:

I write this as a curious outsider, and by no means wish to wind up anyone.

 

Leicester have been held up as a pillar for the rest of the clubs in the English pyramid as a model professional club. Where if you do everything right, you can beat the odds and win trophies vs the wealth of oil states, doing a 'Leicester'. What has happened the past two years? is it just impossible to keep replacing the players who leave with equal quality after a while? Have you lost key people in recruitment? Southampton had a similiar thing, at one point they had Tadic, Mane, Van Dijk etc

 

I hope the new manager can sort it out for you.

You could argue that Top’s reluctance to go into the transfer market this season is another example of Leicester at least trying to do everything right. We are currently not within the soon to be introduced ffp wages to revenue rules. Our wage bill is far too high for the new rules. With a relatively big net spend last season and expected sales this season of Tielemans, Soyuncu, Mendy, Soumare, Vestergaard etc not happening (with the market having dropped out of the mid value player), we have not generated enough money so Top has not allowed us to spend. Ironically this approach, combined with a manager who has lost his ability to motivate (and one who has always struggled tactically) might now result in us being relegated with the massive implications that has for a club that has tried to break the big 6 ceiling. 

[FoxinNotts]

Just now, FoxinNotts said:

Forest away in the cup.

Rome away in the ECL

And playing square pegs in round holes

[Guest kristianity77]

When we screwed up the Champions League position first time round when we had a cushion of what 14 points with about 10 games to go.  That's the point when I started to think he struggles to motivate players to get over the line. 

 

Then when he did the second collapse in similar circumstances, that's the point where I was on the fence about him staying or leaving.

 

I remained on the fence until about half way through last season.  The forest game was when I wanted him gone.  And I've been unwaveringly out ever since.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Issues with mentality,

being unable to address obvious weaknesses, but I will say it again - wherever he has been he struggles when it comes to building a new team and putting his stamp on it.

He is excellent at improving what he inherits, I’ll give him that.

[Guest Bilo]

Rodgers has been incredibly fortunate. He could and probably should have gone at the end of the 20-21 season when we bottled CL qualification for the second successive season, but then we won the FA Cup and he was made unsackable. 

 

Since then, it's been all downhill. The only thing that saved him last season is our run in Europe, but even being in the UECL was evidence of two failures. Firstly bottling UCL qualification and then failing to get out of a group containing a Legia Warsaw that was bottom of the Polish league at the time they beat us 1-0 and failing to beat a Spartak Moscow side at home weeks after Patson Daka used them for target practice. Not to mention blowing a two goal lead at home to Napoli.

 

Make no mistake, not only was that group winnable but I would argue the tournament was as well. It was won by an Eintracht side that finished midtable in the Bundesliga against a Rangers side who'd lost their manager side mid-season. A Leicester side playing to its strengths could have made up for its CL failure and won it, but instead ended up finishing third in the group. A UECL semi, therefore, didn't even paper over the cracks.

 

He really should have gone after that disgusting game at Forest. A Forest side who've since had £150m spent on them and still look miles off Premier League survival obliterated us on national telly. Total humiliation and at a local rival too. Without Europe, he'd have gone. 

[Sampson]

13 minutes ago, Motty said:

europa conference semi final

Don’t think that’s where it all went wrong.

 

I do think we’ll look back and say that game marked the end of the club’s Golden Era though.

[gerblod]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

I said years ago, people recall Liverpool and Man City defeats across Christmas 19-20 but the week before we drew at home to Norwich 1-1 and it was a shocking performance. Since then it's been inconsistent.

 

But we haven't improved the team. Last summer's new players have not improved the team. And ultimately we have sold better players. It's not something any club can sustain.

Those two very obvious calamities, when Ben Chilwell got no help to deal with Salah/Trent-Arnold and Mahrez showed Rodgers tactical shortcomings. It was as if he was relying on the attack to score more than Liverpool and Man City would. This plus fielding Ayoze Perez again and again when it was obvious he wasn't contributing enough.

 

[Hales]

Losing top 4 twice, something switched in the mentality, certainly with Brendan. The comments about the players began and their confidence nosedived

[Hammo]

West Ham at home during lockdown (0-3). The day the blueprint was laid down for how to beat Rodgers’ Leicester team, especially at the King Power. Many have succeeded with the same “stay organised, isolate the striker, allow them to circulate the ball impotently from side to side, wait for them to give the ball away and strike” strategy because our manager is obstinately inflexible in thought and deed and will not accept that his way is not the right way.

 

Furthermore, and this is key to his failure, he knows no other way.

[VictorFox]

After we bottled top 4 for the second season In a row, showed there was a massive mentality issue