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I'm very unhappy in my current employment. I posted my cv online & have been approached by several recruiters. On Friday morning i had a 2nd interview via teams  for a very good job. Within an hour i was offered the position by the recruitment agency. I said i would call the recruiter after the interview. The interview went incredibly well & the job is fantastic. They would like to see me again as soon as possible but could'nt pin down exactly when. Now i would much prefer the 2nd job but if that does not work out i would gladly take the 1st. I don't want to keep the 1st job hanging on & also i don't want to lose the offer either.

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Whats the notice period at your current place? One option is to take up the offer on the 1st one and still interview for the second. People drop out of job offers all the time and even right up to start dates, you could be done for breach of contract if you sign something but employers are unlikely to go down that route except for specific circumstances.

 

Depending on the industry etc you probably have to consider whether there is reputational thing you might need to maintain with the 1st one. Also if its a very small industry there might a chance of the 1st one finding out you are interviewing for the 2nd despite confidentiality.  None of this legal advice obviously so dont come after me lol

 

 

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Just now, Nalis said:

Whats the notice period at your current place? One option is to take up the offer on the 1st one and still interview for the second. People drop out of job offers all the time and even right up to start dates, you could be done for breach of contract if you sign something but employers are unlikely to go down that route except for specific circumstances.

 

Depending on the industry etc you probably have to consider whether there is reputational thing you might need to maintain with the 1st one. Also if its a very small industry there might a chance of the 1st one finding out you are interviewing for the 2nd despite confidentiality.  None of this legal advice obviously so dont come after me lol

 

 

They'd likely still be in their probation period so I doubt they'd be able to be done by breach of contract. Probation period is as much for the employee as the employer. Biggest problem is employers have a habit of not paying you for the hours you did if you quit after a week or so and it's a pain in the arse to take them to tribunal to get the money and employers know it.

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33 minutes ago, Brenfox said:

I'm very unhappy in my current employment. I posted my cv online & have been approached by several recruiters. On Friday morning i had a 2nd interview via teams  for a very good job. Within an hour i was offered the position by the recruitment agency. I said i would call the recruiter after the interview. The interview went incredibly well & the job is fantastic. They would like to see me again as soon as possible but could'nt pin down exactly when. Now i would much prefer the 2nd job but if that does not work out i would gladly take the 1st. I don't want to keep the 1st job hanging on & also i don't want to lose the offer either.

Tell the 2nd job you’ve already got an offer which satisfies what your needs so hurry the f4ck up and arrange the interview and stick a few quid on the salary. Tell the 1st job you’ve got another offer and are currently deciding between the two, and stick a few quid on the salary whilst I’m deciding. Tell the recruiter to pull his finer out and do his job and get a few quid stuck on top of the salary given you’re clearly in demand 

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5 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Tell the 2nd job you’ve already got an offer which satisfies what your needs so hurry the f4ck up and arrange the interview and stick a few quid on the salary. Tell the 1st job you’ve got another offer and are currently deciding between the two, and stick a few quid on the salary whilst I’m deciding. Tell the recruiter to pull his finer out and do his job and get a few quid stuck on top of the salary given you’re clearly in demand 

Sounds like a surefire way to lose both job offers to me.

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5 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Tell the 2nd job you’ve already got an offer which satisfies what your needs so hurry the f4ck up and arrange the interview and stick a few quid on the salary. Tell the 1st job you’ve got another offer and are currently deciding between the two, and stick a few quid on the salary whilst I’m deciding. Tell the recruiter to pull his finer out and do his job and get a few quid stuck on top of the salary given you’re clearly in demand 

I would be less aggressive on the salary, but agree that both jobs need to be aware you have offers you are mind to take.

 

Snooze you loose in the recruitment game and if they want you they will act quickly.

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2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Not if you do it respectfully 

Disagree, but it depends on how specialist the job is really and how many other candidates are out there. In my experience most employers like to feel like they've been "selected" by the candidate rather than that they've been applying for multiple jobs. Of course if you're an engineer with 7 years of university schooling and 10 years experience in the job it's a different matter as it's way more specialist and they won't have so much to choose from so putting pressure in them works in the employees favour.

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Trying to look at this as dispassionately as possible:

 

- If the first company is any good then they’ll still want you in a week’s time and will respect you wanting to properly consider your options (within reason).

- If the second company is any good then they’ll respect you have another offer on the table and pull their finger out a bit.

- I say politely push the second company to get a move on. If they don’t then that’s a bit of a red flag. If the first company withdraw their offer quickly then you’ve probably dodged a bullet anyway.

- Either way, if you plan a “deadline” for company 2 and stick to it then I think you’re being respectful all around.

- You could try a bit of salary blackmail, but you might put off an otherwise decent company with this. I wouldn’t, but you’re not me.

- And if neither comes through, you’re still obviously in a position where you’re being offered positions and interviews for jobs you want, so something else will almost certainly come around soon enough regardless.

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7 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

If he’s getting job offers within an hour of interview there’s no need to be conservative or downbeat. The employer is clearly desperate for someone. Be aggressive as you’re wanted 

It would red flag them as an employee for me. I might still employ them if I was desperate, but I would be wary.

 

Asking to salary match another offer is reasonable though.

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I was in a very similar situation…. Tell the first ones that you want to review the offer details…

 

Wait for the second offer to come in

 

if you’re happy with the offer, take it…. If not leverage against the other offer 

 

I took the time to send a really nice note to the people I turned down, as I did like them, but I preferred the second job for various reasons…. It was really well received.

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52 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Disagree, but it depends on how specialist the job is really and how many other candidates are out there. In my experience most employers like to feel like they've been "selected" by the candidate rather than that they've been applying for multiple jobs. Of course if you're an engineer with 7 years of university schooling and 10 years experience in the job it's a different matter as it's way more specialist and they won't have so much to choose from so putting pressure in them works in the employees favour.

Sounds like very insecure people.

 

Sad that people feel they can't just be honest about situations. It avoids so much trouble in the long run.

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1 hour ago, kenny said:

It would red flag them as an employee for me. I might still employ them if I was desperate, but I would be wary.

 

Asking to salary match another offer is reasonable though.

Fair enough. Depends on industry as well I guess. If you’re already in a secure job and getting job offers within an hour of interview I personally don’t see any reason not to be brave, you’re wanted, why be meek and timid when the ball is firmly in your court. Doesn’t appear to be any risk to the poster. But if you’re not comfortable doing it then ofc don’t  

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50 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Sounds like very insecure people.

 

Sad that people feel they can't just be honest about situations. It avoids so much trouble in the long run.

Not really “insecure” tbh if I was an employer and someone told me in a nice way they’re waiting on a better offer I’d definitely have doubts if they wanted the job long-term and have it in the back of my mind they’d still be looking for other jobs after I’d hired them and there might be other candidates more likely to be more long-term

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whatever you do, do it in a respectful and professional manner. Reputation can go a long way with recruiters- it can keep doors open and it can shut them too. Keep a positive image with recruiters and they’ll remember your name for future job opportunities they try to fill .

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6 hours ago, Brenfox said:

I'm very unhappy in my current employment. I posted my cv online & have been approached by several recruiters. On Friday morning i had a 2nd interview via teams  for a very good job. Within an hour i was offered the position by the recruitment agency. I said i would call the recruiter after the interview. The interview went incredibly well & the job is fantastic. They would like to see me again as soon as possible but could'nt pin down exactly when. Now i would much prefer the 2nd job but if that does not work out i would gladly take the 1st. I don't want to keep the 1st job hanging on & also i don't want to lose the offer either.

I had this exact situation 18 months ago in my experience I told the 1st employer that I had another interview for x date (about a week) and would they kindly wait whilst I interviewed and made a decision. They totally respected it and I know they wanted me so I ensured I was timely with my communication so not to mess them around.

In the end I took the 1st offer anyway and I've been there ever since :).

 

Good luck with it all :fc:

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