Rudkin

[BlackFox]

Wtf is getting paid for? My 5 yo niece could do a better job.

[Mickyblueeyes]

Bit of a late one today for Rudkin. Only managed to get home for 6pm. 

[5waller5]

7 hours ago, Iwebema said:

This is a long post so brace yourselves....just having a look through all the premier league teams DOFs in recent years, just a mini snippet of each club. Not sure if it's useful! But I thought it was interesting 😅

The TLDR is quite simple good DOFs stay in for a long time or get head hunted to go elsewhere. Poor ones get moved on after a few years....

Bournemouth - Richard Hughes 8 years, after successfully establishing them in the premier league has now gone to Liverpool and Simon Francis has taken over from this season

Arsenal - 2019 they appointed Edu in various roles, he's largely been attributed for helping them finally get to grips with the post Wenger years. Moving on to something with the dodgy forest owner now, this is his last season.

Villa - Monchi, I think most know about his long term success with sevilla as sporting director, was there about 19 years? Been with villa for 2 years now and in most people opinions has taken the club to the next level.

Brentford - Phil Giles couldn't find the exact date quickly, but in the region of a decade in the role and has been a key part of their rise up the football pyramid.

Brighton - Currently David Weir but took over from Dan Ashworth who went to Newcastle after 4 years with brighton, ashworth was quite key in building on their "model" (buy young and cheap from lesser known teams and supplement with older experienced players, milner, lallana, welbeck etc) he was with brighton from 2018 after leaving a role in the FA national set up. On to Weir they've still largely been a success but there have been a few decisions recently that have put the spot light on him.

Chelsea - David Barnard he's been with the club for over 20 years in various technical/sporting roles, was the only member of the back office to survive the takeover in 2022 and was appointed DoF, they also have paul winstanley since the takeover. Its difficult to judge pre 2022 performance given they had the ambramovich years pre heavy PSR etc. But certainly a bit chaotic since, but the ownership are very much that!

Palace - Dougie Freedman has been in the role since 2017, quite up and down, I think he started poorly with managers like Vieira etc. But has since turned it around with Glasner. The one thing he is praised for is building a good scouting and player recruitment, if you look at the wingers they signed, either to compliment or replace zaha - olise, eze and now esse, it highlights a style, forward thinking strategy, they would be top of the list for someone like Poku at Peterborough

Everton - Kevin Thewell only been in since 2022. Has had a very eclectic career I wouldn't say he fills you full of confidence, wolves to New York Red bull, previous academy director at wolves 👀

Previous to that the had Marcel Brand from 2018 who was terrible and they moved him on and our very famous Steve Walsh 2 years before that where he was sacked for recommending spending 150m on players and Everton were still in a  relegation battle (it is noted that he did recommend other players like Andy Robertson and haaland but the board said no)

Fulham - Tony Kahn the owners son, been in position since 2017, reading around alot of Fulham fans consider him to have been quite poor up until very recently, he made alot of bad decisions and was active on social media calling players out, his background is in American sports and wrestling so he was never going to be a quiet one...football wise hes heavily into data and analytics, I think in honesty he would of been sacked 3 years in if he wasn't the owners son, sky sports and BBC pundits said he should of been sacked for the poor job he's done. However the last couple of years it looks like he's learnt alot from his mistakes and got it together a bit more.

Ipswich - Gary Probert took over in 2021 after 8 years as the Bristol city academy director, been a very pivitol figure in their rise with Mckenna.
Before that it looks like they had Dave Bowman who has links to Mick Mccarthy, went from Ipswich to Cardiff with Mick  safe to say he's not very good and has been moved on quickly everywhere he's been, at least in recent times anyway.

Liverpool - as mentioned they took the Bournemouth DOF because of the great work he's done. Whilst we can appreciate they are a well run club in recent years, interesting to see all those contract issues....

Man city - txiki begiristain not much to be said, been there 13 years won it all, hard not to given the money!

Man united - Jason Wilcox and previous Dan Ashworth, I mean they are just a basket case of a club, they are run very similar to us but they just have alot more money to throw away in mistake after mistake. Ashworth obviously well respected got out quickly. Good luck to wilcox.

Newcastle - As we know took Ashworth from Brighton, was successful and got head hunted by man united and probably wishes he never left! They now have Paul Mitchell who has an interesting mixed bag of a career, was a key part of the recruiting team from southampton in 2012 (the potch lead one with mane etc) he then went with Potch to spurs and did a great job where they almost won a title, but finished 3rd in a two horse race. Spent the last few years at Monaco rebuilding them. Good track record essentially well respected and actively head hunted.

Forest - Ross Wilson been there since 2023, quite a poor track record, was at Rangers before and was blamed for alot of the issues, poor recruitment poor management. You could argue his approach with forest has been similarly chaotic, but for now, this season at least it's worked. But they had to break PSR to get there and do alot of dodgy deals with Lyon...trying to not be bitter 😅

Spurs - Johan Lange since 2023 was credited with overall good recruitment at Villa but he had some expensive misses which ultimately led to villa thinking they could do better and bought in Monchi.
Difficult to judge lange atm, especially given its levy and spurs....before him was paritici who again head hunted because he was good, had a successfulish 2 years with spurs, bought in Conte etc. But got banned for 3 years from football for a capital gains issue

West ham - they just paid 1m to bring in potters guy...previously they had Tim Stedhein who joined in 2023 after a good run with leverkuesen and bremen so has a track record, but it hasn't worked out he had a falling out with lopetengui. The owners thought it best to move stedhein on and bring in the guy potter wanted especially given stedhein had overseen loptenguis disastrous appointment.

Wolves - matt hobbs has been in since 2022, jury is still out on him I think, has been with wolves since 2015 in a number of roles, they definitely took a cheap easy option, previous to that was Scott sellars who was very poor and was removed after a few years of under performance and a bad transfer record....

The thing that jumps out at me is that WHU have just paid £1m to get Potter’s guy.

 

He wasn’t even expensive to get. We could have Potter plus a competent DOF right now 

[Foxin_Mad]

Rudkins a **** ole ole, Rudkins a **** ole ole, Rudkins a **** Rudkins a ****, Rudkins a **** ole ole 

 

Straight back down, straight back down Leicester City, Straight back down, straight back down I say, Straight back down, straight back down Leicester City, doing football the Rudkin way. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Rudkin and Top must be something like conjoined twins that even trying to separate them will cause severe implications to both of them, they can't operate without each other 

[Iwebema]

4 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

The thing that jumps out at me is that WHU have just paid £1m to get Potter’s guy.

 

He wasn’t even expensive to get. We could have Potter plus a competent DOF right now 

And from what I've read/heard this was a key reason he rejected us twice, we wouldn't budge on it and lessen Rudkins role, and he wouldnt allow a DOF he didn't trust to essentially do what Chelsea did to him.

 

 

[5waller5]

Just now, Iwebema said:

And from what I've read/heard this was a key reason he rejected us twice, we wouldn't budge on it and lessen Rudkins role, and he wouldnt allow a DOF he didn't trust to essentially do what Chelsea did to him.

 

 

Yep, that’s what I heard too… He was absolutely spot on too. If only Top had the minerals to make the right decision 

[Pita]

11 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

Yep, that’s what I heard too… He was absolutely spot on too. If only Top had the minerals to make the right decision 

He does not have the balls. Rudkin got him over a barrel 

[WoodyFox]

17 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

And from what I've read/heard this was a key reason he rejected us twice, we wouldn't budge on it and lessen Rudkins role, and he wouldnt allow a DOF he didn't trust to essentially do what Chelsea did to him.

 

 

Who in their right mind would trust Rudkin’s judgment over Potter’s anyway?!? In fact, any manager I’d have more faith in. 

[Daggers]

21 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

And from what I've read/heard this was a key reason he rejected us twice, we wouldn't budge on it and lessen Rudkins role, and he wouldnt allow a DOF he didn't trust to essentially do what Chelsea did to him.

 

 

Nothing about KPFC would have been appealing to Potter. The entire club is a shitshow; without the promise to appoint staff and buy players, there's nothing Potter could've achieved.

[Phil Mitchell]

You'd think with the backlash he's had recently, he'd sign a few players just to keep us sweet.

 

He really doesn't give a **** does he?

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Stolen from Twitter, but very good…

[Tuna]

2 hours ago, dbtcity said:

3 windows in a row we’ve ended up weaker than when it began  

Not sure you can reasonably argue we went out of the summer window weaker.

[beepee1984]

I'm expecting breaking news from Leicester at 10.30pm today... Rudkin signs a new lifetime contract at Leicester - cold sweat nightmare moment

[Thefox81]

Have a feeling he wont attend another home game this season. Even if not i hope the protest against Arsenal is loud and someone wakes Top up from whats happening.

[Tielemans63]

Been a testing day on the golf course for Our Johnneh

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

16 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Not sure you can reasonably argue we went out of the summer window weaker.

TBF I think there's a decent argument.

 

New faces:

Skipp, El Khannouss, Okoli, Golding, Decordova, Ayew, Buonanotte, Edouard

 

Out the door:

Dewsbury-Hall, Praet, Iheanacho, Souttar, Akgun, Cannon

[LVFox]

2 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

TBF I think there's a decent argument.

 

New faces:

Skipp, El Khannouss, Okoli, Golding, Decordova, Ayew, Buonanotte, Edouard

 

Out the door:

Dewsbury-Hall, Praet, Iheanacho, Souttar, Akgun, Cannon

Bilal/Buonanotte the only new faces who are better than any of those who have left. And I'd argue Buonanotte is remarkably similar to Akgun in ability 

[fox_favourite]

14 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

Been a testing day on the golf course for Our Johnneh

Definitely won't be there for arsenal. They'll know about the protests, they'll know the fan base is angry, and he's a coward. 

[5waller5]

4 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

TBF I think there's a decent argument.

 

New faces:

Skipp, El Khannouss, Okoli, Golding, Decordova, Ayew, Buonanotte, Edouard

 

Out the door:

Dewsbury-Hall, Praet, Iheanacho, Souttar, Akgun, Cannon

Plus Cooper for Enzo

[RowlattsFox]

So many appropriate threads to comment on, I don't know where to vent 

 

For me, not even trying is worse than panicking and signing shit. At least we've attempted to make a difference then. 

 

We are clearly ****ed, one way or another. Financial problems run deep, it has to. No other explanation. 

 

I really want Top to learn and be able to run this club successfully but he isn't capable of it. 

[Pliskin]

I’m willing to say he touched me in the showers if it gets him gone……

[Dmitry]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’m willing to say he touched me in the showers if it gets him gone……

Won't work. He'll be back at the Top. 

[HarryDee8]

Some one tell him....

 

Recruitment = survival

[CrispinLA in Texas]

11 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’m willing to say he touched me in the showers if it gets him gone……

Rudkin needs the shower scene from Terrifier 3