They do care

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Of course they care. But there's no real jeopardy for them. Most will move on in the summer with no serious damage done to their careers and this season will soon be a distant memory for them.

[Lambert09]

i’m glad this thread exists. It is very lazy to just think it’s either care or not care and this is why we win or lose. It’s more that with the current set up we simply aren’t good enough. 

 

That might be hard for people to understand but we’re not. it’s not that we don’t care, we saw against everton and leeds that we tried everything but yet again… weren’t good enough. The only difference is that fulham are simply a better team than us right now, they were professional and played as well as they could and we couldn’t match that. 

 

I think the set up was naive (it has been in every game) and it left us far too open and the chances were taken. 

 

Nobody wants to be sh*t and even bouba has stepped up in previous games.  But I think the lack of care is because people are struggling to see why a cat can’t suddenly become a cheetah 

[yorkie1999]

Course they care, but not in the same way a supporter cares about their club, to them it's a job, to us it's lifestyle.

[Ashdav86]

Yes they care but it's other characteristics they are lacking 

 

Decisions under pressure. Leadership and willingness to put themselves into a tackle when in 3 months time they will be either in a better team or looking for a new team

[supernuk]

There was no right against Fulham for me that equals most of them don't care. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

48 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

When I was working a 3 month notice, I 100% assure you I didn't give a shit about my job 

 

I assure you mads youri and Barnes are the same 

Yes this. Half of the starting XI are basically in their notice period with new jobs lined up. 

 

Would you bust your arse for a sinking ship employer 6 weeks before you start a new job?  

[Paninistickers]

23 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Course they care, but not in the same way a supporter cares about their club, to them it's a job, to us it's lifestyle.

You could say that about any team tho tbf

[turkish14]

2 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Being the unfittest team in the league is a consequence of them not caring. 

 

Having a do or die game against Fulham (who had nothing to play for) and not being first in the challenge (as per Maddison) is another example of not caring or not caring enough. 

 

Unfortunately the list goes on. 

 

I appreciate the title but the evidence and peoples eyes tell us different 

Who’s responsible for their level of fitness and recoveries? 
 

Smith said when he took over that we don’t look fit enough. I know whom I blame, and he’s no longer at the club. 

[turkish14]

1 hour ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

When I was working a 3 month notice, I 100% assure you I didn't give a shit about my job 

 

I assure you mads youri and Barnes are the same 

Yea because working in a factory with no one to pick you up is easy compared to 29k fans baying for your blood 😂 If Youri wants a better club and contract, just play crap right? That’s how it works by your logic 😂

[filbertway]

Aside from pride being hurt a bit I doubt they care that much. There's too much money and it's easy to blame others for the relegation. It'd come across crystal clear if they did care.

 

All opinion of course, words mean absolutely nothing in life to me though. I'll judge them on their actions.

[blueharmie]

I wouldn't say they don't care either....

 

They absolutely don't give a flying fu CK!

[lcfc sheff]

[nettle]

I'm not sure they really care that much  looking at the half hearted performances they've put in most of the season. 

Edited 12 May 2023 by nettle

[willie-bell-in-rothley]

30 minutes ago, turkish14 said:

Yea because working in a factory with no one to pick you up is easy compared to 29k fans baying for your blood 😂 If Youri wants a better club and contract, just play crap right? That’s how it works by your logic 😂

who says he was working in a factory ?

[Guy]

2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...yes, going out of the Premier league is distasteful, annoying, but going out with a whimper is unacceptable!!!

 Numerous posters have posted "..we were on League 1, 14 years ago", as if to say be grateful for what you have. Well you cannot just stand there and pat yourself on the back, all you are encouraging is to stand still.

Yes, I agree relegation would be a disaster all over and that this season has been terrible in the main and the way things have been done and handled by the manager (Rodgers), the board and with it, some of the players' seeming attitudes - and as the upshot of all that then it will sadly come as no surprise if we do indeed end up losing our Premier League status over it if we perform like we did at Craven Cottage on Monday in any of the next three games! I suppose  those who have referenced League One in 2009 (I never banged that drum myself in any recent posts this season btw!), are just observing how far we've come since that time more than anything I think - I don't think they're implying that slipping back down to that level in the foreseeable future all over again like we did the last time 15 years ago is at all ok! 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

3 hours ago, turkish14 said:

Yes that’s right in my opinion the players do care.

 

What professional footballer whether years or months left on their contract would want to be tarnished with relegation? Seriously? 

 

why would a player deliberately play bad, with the eyes of the football world and 29K Leicester fans (a portion with baying for their blood) plus of course the management. 
 

those players looked utterly gutted on Monday. Though I understand perspective and differing views, I’ll say anyone saying they don’t care I absolutely disagree with.

 

Why are we playing crap? 
 

it’s simple to me, we have I think the worst fitness in the league. We don’t run enough. We are not quick enough in closing down, meaning when we do “press” teams are quicker physically and mentally to beat the press. 
 

players are lacking the confidence in getting forward quickly to press because of this holding back, with the exception that I can see being Madders. How many times are we wanting players to be aggressive and press, but they don’t because they are scared to be beat and lack the fitness to sustain that.

 

Players are scared to find space, knowing if we lose the ball the opponents are quicker at exploiting our weaknesses. 
 

Because we are being pressed quickly it’s forcing mistakes from Us, we simply do not think quick enough or are brave enough to find space, to make more forward passes.

 

mistakes do not just happen, anyone involved in coaching most sports know this. 

 

I look forward to the moronic “they don’t care”

brigade many of which boo’s the players on Monday followed by chants of your not fit to wear the shirt, that then left after the fourth goal went in. 
 

 

 

I don't care that you think they care. I know they don't and anyone who thinks they do is actually the real moron. As Forest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does "If this was some sort of rallying call you failed big time.

[bovril]

More than not caring there has been all season an apparent lack of accountability or even awareness that we are in the shit. As another poster further up said, at Fulham on Monday they seemed convinced they just needed to turn up and beat a team off form. They are arrogant and poorly organised, which is the fault of the manager. 

[bovril]

Injuries haven't helped in that there is very little competition for places. 

[turkish14]

25 minutes ago, willie-bell-in-rothley said:

who says he was working in a factory ?

Thought id match the poster by asserting my assumption as they have by their comment. There’s opinions that go both ways. 

[turkish14]

10 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

I don't care that you think they care. I know they don't and anyone who thinks they do is actually the real moron. As Forest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does "If this was some sort of rallying call you failed big time.

I don’t care that you think they don’t. I expressed my opinion . It wasn’t a rallying call, there are to many coked up/drunk fans that **** off when the chips are down to bother with rallying calls. 
 

though I am interested to hear your thoughts onto why you think they don’t care?
 

I’ve given my own theory as to why I have my view, i.e they are unfit, lack of confidence etc.. Fans like you want to make your own views to match your own narrative. 
 

Edited 12 May 2023 by turkish14

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, turkish14 said:

Who’s responsible for their level of fitness and recoveries? 
 

Smith said when he took over that we don’t look fit enough. I know whom I blame, and he’s no longer at the club. 

I do agree that the one that's left does have to take a huge amount of responsibility for our demise. 

 

However, as professional footballers they should have a strong degree of self motivation, pride etc 

 

As a collective they have not shown anywhere near enough of this 

 

 

[turkish14]

1 minute ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I do agree that the one that's left does have to take a huge amount of responsibility for our demise. 

 

However, as professional footballers they should have a strong degree of self motivation, pride etc 

 

As a collective they have not shown anywhere near enough of this 

 

 

Footballers training plans, are directed by the management. They are told when to train and how to train by my understanding. 
 

if they are not fit enough as per my opinion, I hold Rodgers ultimately responsible.

[CrazyKopCorner]

4 minutes ago, turkish14 said:

Footballers training plans, are directed by the management. They are told when to train and how to train by my understanding. 
 

if they are not fit enough as per my opinion, I hold Rodgers ultimately responsible.

Fair enough - Our very best players over the years have undertaken additional training to ensure they are at absolute peak fitness, have the edge etc - this lot don't seem to be bothered is my view - Blowing out of the harris' after 60 minutes - some after a lot less time 

 

[indierich06]

3 hours ago, Walkerfox said:

They don’t care. They aren’t purposely playing bad, that’s ridiculous, but why would they give their all when there are zero consequences to losing, yet there are consequences to getting injured, tiring themselves out etc. 
 

Take Maddison for example, if he gives his all and gets Injured, he isn’t getting a big contract with his next team. Relegation on his CV has no impact. Cags is off to atletico, they aren’t going to look and go “ah, actually, his team is going down, we’ll cancel the contract thanks”. 
 

It’s like with any job. If you know you’re leaving in a few weeks, you’re getting paid the same amount and the work you do in your final few weeks has no influence on your next job, are you really going to be giving it your all? Even subconsciously your performance will be affected. 

These statements would be true if their future moves were nailed on. Cags might have a pre-contract deal with Atletico, but do you not reckon in the back of Maddison's mind, he might be thinking '****ing hell, are Spurs or Newcastle really still going to take a punt on me if we go down?'

 

Jonny Evans was linked with Arsenal and Man City before West Brom got relegated - after they went down, we were the only ones in for him.

 

We keep hearing this squad is 'too good' to get relegated - if you're a scout watching our players at the minute, you'd be looking at the performances and wondering if these lads are really worth the money we'd want for them, and if there aren't better options elsewhere.

[indierich06]

12 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Fair enough - Our very best players over the years have undertaken additional training to ensure they are at absolute peak fitness, have the edge etc - this lot don't seem to be bothered is my view - Blowing out of the harris' after 60 minutes - some after a lot less time 

 

They've had their fitness coached out of them - Rodgers style was less running, more death by passing. If Smith wants us to be more direct, no amount of extra training is suddenly going to change your fitness levels mid-season. If the focus has changed, there's not a lot they can do.