They do care

[Mickyblueeyes]

The players, have not earnt their wage this season. No one can dispute that. I don't know if they "care" or not - its irrelevant for me. They've not earnt their respect this year (and parts of last). Its likely quite a few will be playing for some pretty big clubs next season. The fact that they will not be able to achieve at least 40 points this season is unprofessional. And that is what they have been. Unprofessional as most have not achieved their basic level of consistency. Making excuses for them is not needed. Let's hope they find something from the next 3 - which would be a minor miracle but certainly doesn't make up for performances (and mistakes) like Bournemouth (home and away), Blackburn, Everton, Southampton (home and away), Brighton away, Spurs away, Stockport in the cup, Villa at home, Palace away and so on. There is a certain level of professionalism you would expect from an athlete and I don't think we have had that this year. 

[squidsworth]

Quite frankly I don't think the better ones care enough, that doesn't mean not caring at all just not enough to run the extra yard, win that second ball, make the best decisions, and lead the other less talented players making sure they cover for some of the weaknesses in the team. 

 

As others point out, they get paid mega bucks and will wander off and not look back as soon as we're down. They won't care as they'll be on the up again with their careers and out of the mess they helped cause (there are a lot of factors contributing though, not just top player apathy).

 

The belittled Joe average(s) in the squad will be left behind to pick up the pieces. 

 

We've got to remember we've the biggest wage bill outside the top 6, we should be miles better than we are. It irks me they pick up all this money and blame the bit part players for their collective failings, and then will walk away without a care in the world. Rodgers had the luxury of doing that before the bigger axe fell.

 

 

[Nolucklcfc]

It’s not that they literally just don’t care at all but there’s a different between trying and having real desire to win games. It’s not in them to have that desire because half of them won’t be here. They probably do want to stay up and leave on good terms but it’s not deep down desire like it is to us and seemingly other teams. That’s why we’ll go down. You can understand it to a certain extent but I hate them for it. 

[SK3Blue]

Sorry OP but they really don't, those Everton players were fighting down at Brighton, they lost the odd 50/50 but they dug in, won the ball back and bust a gut to get forward and win the game.  

 

When you look at our lot, hardly any make a positive run forward, let alone win a 50/50. The ones that do care stick out a mile because the rest are horizontal and only care about their bank balance. Half the problem with us is that we don't take the game to the opposition, we allow their wide players to push our players back  for example and not many are bothered about it. 

 

 

Edited 12 May 2023 by SK3Blue

[Arkie Bennett]

Players talk about not wanting relegation on their CV. Stephen Clemence said it in the run-up to our relegation to League 1. He was club captain. It isn't about caring; it's about players thinking ahead to their next transfer.

[RoboFox]

I’m sure they care a lot.

 

Problem is, they’re shit.

[TJQuik]

3 hours ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

When I was working a 3 month notice, I 100% assure you I didn't give a shit about my job 

 

I assure you mads youri and Barnes are the same 

There's a difference when you're getting paid 3 times the average annual wage every WEEK to kick a football around, and when us going down might threaten not only people's livelihoods but the existence of the club itself which means a lot to a community they're supposed to be playing for.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

They care, but what constitutes ‘care’ will be invariably reduced by not wanting to be injured when contract expires etc. Tielemans is not going to go full throttle into tackles is he (did he ever actually) because if he breaks his leg he might not get a club next season.

 

Drops in level of ‘care’ by 2-5% or however you might quantify it, and you’re not competitive. It’s human nature, reflects the club getting themselves in a mess and is not as black and white.

 

I also think not refreshing the squad with quality and recruiting badly means players will rest on their laurels a bit because they’re not incentivised to go that extra yard, because they know the talent pool is low and they’ll probably always be picked. 

Edited 12 May 2023 by Wasyls Pec Deck

[floz]

This is the only ever away team to score 5 goals at the Etihad. The drop off in quality/form/effort is staggering. 

[whoareyaaa]

52 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The players, have not earnt their wage this season. No one can dispute that. I don't know if they "care" or not - its irrelevant for me. They've not earnt their respect this year (and parts of last). Its likely quite a few will be playing for some pretty big clubs next season. The fact that they will not be able to achieve at least 40 points this season is unprofessional. And that is what they have been. Unprofessional as most have not achieved their basic level of consistency. Making excuses for them is not needed. Let's hope they find something from the next 3 - which would be a minor miracle but certainly doesn't make up for performances (and mistakes) like Bournemouth (home and away), Blackburn, Everton, Southampton (home and away), Brighton away, Spurs away, Stockport in the cup, Villa at home, Palace away and so on. There is a certain level of professionalism you would expect from an athlete and I don't think we have had that this year. 

Spot on.

 

Since losing Kasper there is no leader in the dressing room and with players leaving it has probably caused fractions within the camp, I don't think they really care that much most of them... with players already having there eyes on a move next season, big rebuild needed in the summer.

[l444ry]

Would have helped if they'd had a manager that told them the truth once in a while. not the bullshit Rodgers filled their heads with. Made excuses for them at every turn. That clown was still in denial up to the day he got booted out.  

[Lesta Legend]

4 hours ago, Babylon said:

There is caring and caring. 

 

You can work for a company and be a bit checked out because of lots of things that have happened, you can still care about things. But perhap without realsiing you're not giving it everything.

 

Or you can work somewhere, where everything is great, you're 100% on board and can subconsciously give it that little bit extra. 

 

I doubt many of them walk into work and don't care about all the people around them at the club, but It only takes a couple of percent being off your game at this level to turn 3 points to 0. 

Exactly this. 
 

I moved jobs and within my 3 months notice period my effort did admittedly get less and less. I did care as I didn’t want to totally leave my colleagues/ friends high and dry but my levels weren’t as high as they could have been. I see that in some of this squad. 

[Dahnsouff]

57 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The players, have not earnt their wage this season. No one can dispute that. I don't know if they "care" or not - it’s irrelevant for me. They've not earnt their respect this year (and parts of last). It’s likely quite a few will be playing for some pretty big clubs next season. The fact that they will not be able to achieve at least 40 points this season is unprofessional. And that is what they have been. Unprofessional as most have not achieved their basic level of consistency. Making excuses for them is not needed. Let's hope they find something from the next 3 - which would be a minor miracle but certainly doesn't make up for performances (and mistakes) like Bournemouth (home and away), Blackburn, Everton, Southampton (home and away), Brighton away, Spurs away, Stockport in the cup, Villa at home, Palace away and so on. There is a certain level of professionalism you would expect from an athlete and I don't think we have had that this year. 

100% agree, as  awful as Brendan has been, and he has been, you would expect a certain level of professionalism, of talent, and I cannot accept that Brendan could drive that level of professionalism out of that many top level players. The lack of effort post Brendan has barely improved, which is mind blowing.

 

And preemptively, no  I don’t believe players are liable to cult like mind control reducing them to mindless automatons.  

[gerrytaggart]

If they cared they wouldn't be on the verge of relegation it really is that simple.

[purpleronnie]

Has anyone seen a single player run their legs off for 90 minutes, or showing any passion at all?  If they have I missed it.

[inckley fox]

5 hours ago, turkish14 said:

Yes that’s right in my opinion the players do care.

 

What professional footballer whether years or months left on their contract would want to be tarnished with relegation? Seriously? 

 

why would a player deliberately play bad, with the eyes of the football world and 29K Leicester fans (a portion with baying for their blood) plus of course the management. 
 

those players looked utterly gutted on Monday. Though I understand perspective and differing views, I’ll say anyone saying they don’t care I absolutely disagree with.

 

Why are we playing crap? 
 

it’s simple to me, we have I think the worst fitness in the league. We don’t run enough. We are not quick enough in closing down, meaning when we do “press” teams are quicker physically and mentally to beat the press. 
 

players are lacking the confidence in getting forward quickly to press because of this holding back, with the exception that I can see being Madders. How many times are we wanting players to be aggressive and press, but they don’t because they are scared to be beat and lack the fitness to sustain that.

 

Players are scared to find space, knowing if we lose the ball the opponents are quicker at exploiting our weaknesses. 
 

Because we are being pressed quickly it’s forcing mistakes from Us, we simply do not think quick enough or are brave enough to find space, to make more forward passes.

 

mistakes do not just happen, anyone involved in coaching most sports know this. 

 

I look forward to the moronic “they don’t care”

brigade many of which boo’s the players on Monday followed by chants of your not fit to wear the shirt, that then left after the fourth goal went in. 
 

 

 

If these guys do care in your book, I wonder whether you've ever considered any other side in an equally miserable predicament to have not cared. Because if this team doesn't personify the notion of not being up for a fight, then I seriously doubt any team ever has.

 

Of course, that could all change. But if this, as it stands, doesn't fall into the 'pathetic' category, then I doubt that anything would.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

4 hours ago, turkish14 said:

Yea because working in a factory with no one to pick you up is easy compared to 29k fans baying for your blood 😂 If Youri wants a better club and contract, just play crap right? That’s how it works by your logic 😂

 

 

Worked for Drinkwater and chilly 

 

You really don't understand people do you 

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, indierich06 said:

These statements would be true if their future moves were nailed on. Cags might have a pre-contract deal with Atletico, but do you not reckon in the back of Maddison's mind, he might be thinking '****ing hell, are Spurs or Newcastle really still going to take a punt on me if we go down?'

 

Jonny Evans was linked with Arsenal and Man City before West Brom got relegated - after they went down, we were the only ones in for him.

 

We keep hearing this squad is 'too good' to get relegated - if you're a scout watching our players at the minute, you'd be looking at the performances and wondering if these lads are really worth the money we'd want for them, and if there aren't better options elsewhere.

...for the scouts, they would be rubbing their hands!!!

You do not look at potential acquisitions in the form of the team, it is all about the individuals. Maguire was picked up at a good price for Hull City when they went down, it is rich pickings for clubs when a team goes down, not quite a fire sale, but a better chance to pick decent players up.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

7 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...for the scouts, they would be rubbing their hands!!!

You do not look at potential acquisitions in the form of the team, it is all about the individuals. Maguire was picked up at a good price for Hull City when they went down, it is rich pickings for clubs when a team goes down, not quite a fire sale, but a better chance to pick decent players up.

Can't sell your best players if they go for free, top you old dog you've done it again 

[turkish14]

2 hours ago, inckley fox said:

If these guys do care in your book, I wonder whether you've ever considered any other side in an equally miserable predicament to have not cared. Because if this team doesn't personify the notion of not being up for a fight, then I seriously doubt any team ever has.

 

Of course, that could all change. But if this, as it stands, doesn't fall into the 'pathetic' category, then I doubt that anything would.

I don’t disagree 

 

but what actually happens to be up “for a “fight” as you put it? 

 

I'm assuming you mean that “will” to get stuck in, to chase the ball down, to press to find space? That’s fight right?

 

the common denominator amongst those above is to do all of that you have to have the fitness at this level to do so.

 

They look physically and mentally knackered in my opinion, they are not doing what they should be doing. I don’t believe that’s a lack of will, I believe they don’t have the acceleration, the speed or the endurance to match other teams at the minute.

[turkish14]

1 hour ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

 

 

Worked for Drinkwater and chilly 

 

You really don't understand people do you 

Oh yes if course, those two aforementioned players were crap for us in their last season right? 😂

 

I live in a house of psychologist, so actually have a good understanding of people. I work in sports development, so fancy my views are more accurate than yours. But each to their own. 

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The players, have not earnt their wage this season. No one can dispute that. I don't know if they "care" or not - its irrelevant for me. They've not earnt their respect this year (and parts of last). Its likely quite a few will be playing for some pretty big clubs next season. The fact that they will not be able to achieve at least 40 points this season is unprofessional. And that is what they have been. Unprofessional as most have not achieved their basic level of consistency. Making excuses for them is not needed. Let's hope they find something from the next 3 - which would be a minor miracle but certainly doesn't make up for performances (and mistakes) like Bournemouth (home and away), Blackburn, Everton, Southampton (home and away), Brighton away, Spurs away, Stockport in the cup, Villa at home, Palace away and so on. There is a certain level of professionalism you would expect from an athlete and I don't think we have had that this year. 

I think this is a fair balance…I am sure they do care…but like you I don’t know if they care or not and at the end irrelevant…

No matter how good,how daft,how poor,how poor Chosen tactics, from the manager the players at a PL club have to stand up…I think Forest,Bournemouth,Yes Southampton even Leeds have…It’s the lackluster & unproffesional presentation that’s dissapointed, that on the players back…lack of concentration,show of basic ball control,even Amartey has shown better skills,but he and Ndidi even with injury baggage,should have put their house in order,shocking interpassing between these

2 alone cost us in more games..Attitude can ruin aptitude and that’s what stook out in last 2 years…I gave Rodgers some room,because of horrible chronic injuries,but going into this season he had to put some stamp on the squad,even with no investment..Attitude somehow fell to the side…noway does the 3 Amigos need to take or be given the blame..At this stage the players have to drop their blame chasing…Soyuncu does and gets on with it. I do think also Maddison try’s his heart

out,but we are seeing others not facing up,or falling from taking simple game responsibility..That’s where then one sees basic Sunday school mistakes…

Unproffesional ,non commitment are 2 words that pop up…

 

One thing Leicester had,when we was crap,spread over 70yrs various teams,was

fight,spirit and attitude through all our lines…Now a pfuffddlepfuf soggy dud firework..Is it  modern Profi-lazyness..??

 

Because of me falling out with my company’s ideology,doesnt

stop me giving commitment and desire…our customers didnt

deserve that, they paid for services & outside knowledge support…I expect the same from others coming to my house or selling me & maintaining their wares & services…

I don’t suffer low cost excuses….

Edited 12 May 2023 by fuchsntf

[Guest Mee-9]

The comments this week have been laughable, Dean Smith having to tell the media that his players care.

 

How has it got to this? Players who earn dozens of thousands being questioned about whether they care.

 

They ain’t 16 year olds stacking shelves in Asda not caring if they’ve put the tinned garden peas and mushy peas in the wrong place. 
 

Pathetic. 

[splinterdream]

sure, they all care, but on a scale of 1 - 100, some care at 15 and some care at 100. I'm sure Vardy is right up there at 100, but i'm pretty sure some will move on pretty quickly. Caring is running through brick walls for the team, and lets face it, most haven't done that. I reckon we may see more puffed out chests and aggression against Liverpool but i think Klopp knows what coming and Salah is licking his lips

[AyewJoking]

11 minutes ago, Mee-9 said:

The comments this week have been laughable, Dean Smith having to tell the media that his players care.

 

How has it got to this? Players who earn dozens of thousands being questioned about whether they care.

 

They ain’t 16 year olds stacking shelves in Asda not caring if they’ve put the tinned garden peas and mushy peas in the wrong place. 
 

Pathetic. 

Insanely paid professionals coughing up pub league football every week.

 

Exactly how much do they care?