What percentage of blame do you apply to those responsible for our demise?

[alanf0x]

Rodgers (47%)

Top (20%)

Whelan & Ruskin (20%) 

Players (10%)

Stowell (3%) 

 

 

[StevieH]

Sorry but players have to take well over 50% of blame for just not giving a shite. They are paid thousands of pounds and quite frankly it's disgusting the lack of effort. The rest split between recruitment and Rodgers. How some people on her gives 5% blame to players baffles me.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

On 12/05/2023 at 13:27, StanSP said:

75% Rodgers

20% Top and senior hierarchy 

5% players 

Agreed

[ARM1968]

Controversial but the blame lies with those responsible for running the club. It had been obvious for over a year that Brendan has lost whatever he had. It was obvious that things were only going one way. For me they shoulder 70% of the blame with Brendan taking 30%. He should not have been allowed to go as far as he did. Poor leadership from Top and the board. Simple as. 

[An Away Move]

Rodgers for playing pedestrian uninspired football, terrible tactics and subs and for his passive aggressive attitude to Soyuncu and others. Also for moving away from our stat based signings and bringing in players like the Southampton two. 
Top for not being strong enough to keep Rodgers to heel and put the culture of a successful club over his manager. 
Also the players - not enough fight or pride. Far too lackadaisical. Lacking in character. It became stark against our exit in the FA Cup versus Blackburn Rovers. The opposite of a Pearson side. We need that to stay up this season, or if not, to come up again next season. 
 

[JimmyC74]

Ward Prowse following relegation saying you can feel standards of the Club have slipped away.

 

I wonder if any of our Club will say something similar in the coming days. 

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Controversial but the blame lies with those responsible for running the club. It had been obvious for over a year that Brendan has lost whatever he had. It was obvious that things were only going one way. For me they shoulder 70% of the blame with Brendan taking 30%. He should not have been allowed to go as far as he did. Poor leadership from Top and the board. Simple as. 

Rodgers will always cop the flak as he is both front of house and a twat anyway, but if you run/own something, your stewardship makes or breaks it, as you control who runs your ‘project’. Wonder if Rodgers had a yearly appraisal?

[sacreblueits442]

51 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

80% rudkin for allowing Rodgers free reign

19% top for giving Rodgers a ridiculous contract and letting rudkin make decisions 

1% Rodgers as we knew what we were getting and he needed reigning in

...cannot agree that Rudkin gave Rodgers free rein!!!

If anything Khun Top would have sanctioned Rodger's influence over the club, and Rudkin would not have had a say in the matter. Rodgers and Rudkin were not exactly bosom buddies, there was animosity between the two.

[JonnyBoy]

Hate to say it due to the history of the family and what they have done for us but I think a lot of this is decision making (or lack of) from Top so a large proportion sits with him. Some Rudkin, some Rodgers and definitely some players 

[Getin]

Rudkin 80% Whelan & Top 10% each for being complicit in and relying on his incompetent advice/performance. Everything under his control over the last 2 seasons has been a disaster.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

50 per cent Rodgers

 

50 per cent the board 

[MickeyMouse]

Rodgers 50%

- for giving Ward 28 games

- playing Amartey over Soyuncu.

Board 50% for no signings in the summer.

- Brendan gets us to 40 points with Souttar, Kristensen, Tete from the beginning. He wouldn't have started the season moaning.

- The delay before signing Dean Smith.

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

Anyone who thinks this falls at anyone else’s door and not 100% at Tops door, here are few pics, articles of when Top took the credit when things go right. Including some which are post covid (apparently our biggest hit). 
 

This isn’t a case of an owner being loyal to a manager and everything stemming from that. This a case of owner who neglected his business - that inexcusable. If you disagree, let’s talk in a years time. City don’t just need new players, manager. They need an entirely new governance structure -from top to bottom - it will be at least 5 years (if we are lucky) before we see any results from that. 
 

This is 100% with Top. Everything else flows from that. 

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[Tielemans63]

30% Rodgers 

30% Rudkin

20% Top

10% Susan

10% Players

[Dames]

At this point you cant even blame Rodgers. It was clear to everyone apart from the one person who was adamant be stays in post.

 

Whoever that person is gets 100% of the blame. 

[Mark_w]

Obviously not privvy to any information but I reckong roughly I'd put it at something like...

Brendan - 65% (I think it ultimately stems here. You don't come out and say you have to have a rebuild if the club can't afford one - it kills player morale & it's selfishly putting yourself and your reputation ahead of the club and people you work with, that's an attitude that's transmitted by a manager to the people they manage. I suspect he was behind the decision to let Kasper go, and to then play Danny Ward for as long as he did is just absolutely inexplicable)
Top/Rudkin - 25% (I wouldn't have sacked him at the start of the season, but in hindsight they could have been more ruthless over the way he was talking about things in pre-season. But then they were so so late to sack him when it had become obvious to everyone who cared that he shouldn't be here any more. It's ultimately their responsibility and they'll suffer for the decision making)
Recruitment Team - 4% (They've largely done a good job over the years. But have to take some of the blame for Danny Ward being at the football club, us not having better defensive players, and a couple of pretty bad seasons in the transfer market)
Coaching Staff - 4% (The mood and ability of the players isn't just the manager's responsibility, and the lack of a response to Brendan going from the players suggests that he wasn't the only problem there)
Players - 1%  (I don't attribute too much to them at all, stupid young footballers are ten a penny it's the manager's job to make sure the ones who are going to be a problem don't stay at the football club. I think the majority of ours do care, it's just an unbalanced squad (in that we've neglected finding/keeping people who are good at and enjoy defending) with some positions that are just so severely lacking that the ones who are good can't make up for it).
Sepp Blatter/FIFA - 1% (I mean they're willy pullers so it's nice to have a go at them, but also we'd just remembered how to play football when the World Cup came along. There were huge cracks of course and it wouldn't have lasted long, but without the players going out to the World Cup and getting their morale destroyed again, maybe we could have ridden it to a few more wins and been safe for an extra season - although not sure if that would have been a good thing or not).
 

Edited 13 May 2023 by Mark_w

[FoxesWalk]

2 hours ago, ceebeefox said:

He’d walk into our team now! But I guess players become better when they’re on the bench or gone?

Yeah it was tongue in cheek, I thought he did alright here but was scapegoated for about 2 years 

[Guest bennytwohats]

Blame should fall where the accountability lies. Players are accountable for their own performances. Rodgers was ultimately been accountable for the players collectively and the on field mess. Rudkin and the board are accountable for Rodgers. Top is accountable for all of it.

 

I think they're all culpable, it's a bit meaningless to try and get any more specific than that because they've all failed at what they were supposed to be doing, bar one or two players individually.

[JimmyC74]

Interesting article in the Telegraph today by Sam Wallace in which he says Rudders has a role in Top’s horse racing business.

 

 

Others see it differently and that Rudkin is understood to play a key part in the decisions on acquisitions of horses and with which trainers they are placed. KPR has around 100 horses with different trainers, and has been one of the top ten racing operations in Britain at times, perhaps even bigger.

 

You can make your own jokes about this if true ……🤪fcuk sake

[Claridge]

Players who have been pretty pathetic this season in their commitment this season getting an easy ride. Rodgers said we needed 6 new players and that some here think they are better than they are.he said that months ago and seems to be spot on.He should have had the balls to resign or the board should have bought someone in who had faith in the players , but ultimately the players have let us down with so many half hearted performances

[Guest binic16]

99% Bodgers 1% Top.Should have got rid after 2nd failed top 4 finish.All this crap about playing above our station is ridiculous we had a lot of very good players,and then Bodgers proceeded to suck   the confidence out of them ,when he started belittling us that was the end for me.

[Ric Flair]

56 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

Interesting article in the Telegraph today by Sam Wallace in which he says Rudders has a role in Top’s horse racing business.

 

 

Others see it differently and that Rudkin is understood to play a key part in the decisions on acquisitions of horses and with which trainers they are placed. KPR has around 100 horses with different trainers, and has been one of the top ten racing operations in Britain at times, perhaps even bigger.

 

You can make your own jokes about this if true ……🤪fcuk sake

Rudkin is as highly regarded under the King Power group as Susan Whelan is it would appear. The loyalty and respect, will mean that despite catastrophic failure at Leicester City, the performance is not measured and change that we so badly need won't come.

 

We are praying on another miracle to be rebuilt. 

[JimmyC74]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Rudkin is as highly regarded under the King Power group as Susan Whelan is it would appear. The loyalty and respect, will mean that despite catastrophic failure at Leicester City, the performance is not measured and change that we so badly need won't come.

 

We are praying on another miracle to be rebuilt. 

Blind loyalty is what has / will hold us back from achieving our potential. He has to go.

[RichmondAsianElephant]

The Media is to blame, after winning the FA cup pundits said "they are a top 4 team now" they are a "big club"

 

This got to the players heads thinking that they are better than they really are.

 

 

[Pliskin]

13 hours ago, JimmyC74 said:

Ward Prowse following relegation saying you can feel standards of the Club have slipped away.

 

I wonder if any of our Club will say something similar in the coming days. 

They won’t say a ****ing thing. Top will come out with some bollocks about us trying and how it’s been a hard season….. even pre Liverpool, Barnes was speaking about getting points, there was barely an emotion, they don’t give a shit.

 

If the worst happens and we go down, and it’s without a fight, I do not want to see any clapping or cheering. I’ve never been for booing, but the club need to understand that this is unacceptable. We’ve been badly let down, and it’s frankly the most pathetic demise in football history.