What percentage of blame do you apply to those responsible for our demise?

[Vazman]

Rudkin - 40% he is the DOF, to not have acted sooner, and keep  the ship on the right coarse at all levels has cost us for sure.

 

Rodgers - 10% he is implicit, but should never have been allowed to get away with what he has, bring in Rudkin percentage, he shouldn't have allowed it.

 

Top - 45% he should have Gripped Rudkin and called out the lack of action from him. 

 

Coaches, Medical staff, Recruitment- 5% speaks for itself, injuries and lack of basics, only mitigated by the fact those above them should have tightened this up, and not allowed these issues.

 

It all boils down to complacency across the board from DOF, Manager, etc sleep walking to where we are at now, a complete Purge, and reset is needed, replace the DOF, bring in an inspirational manager would be a great start, and above all learn from this mess so it doesn't happen again.  

[goody2028]

On 12/05/2023 at 13:27, StanSP said:

75% Rodgers

20% Top and senior hierarchy 

5% players 

5% to a bunch of wasters who haven’t looked like caring for most of the season seems a bit generous.

[Mendi]

The owner and his team.

[BenTheFox]

Technically it all comes back to Top. He was definitely let down by people beneath him but he is the owner and has the power to make changes. Some of the decisions that we have made in terms of contracts have been obscene. Ricardo being given a contract up until 2026 with his injury record was ridiculous. 

[LCGraphix]

Tecnically TOP 100% as he surely has final say, however I think his lapdog Rudkin is advising him a lot due to Tops lack of Knowledge in the english game so id say a good 65% is down to Rudkin.

 

15% other board members - seem to have ran the club backwards for whatever reason, from finances to simple things like matchday graphics have become very amateurish.

 

10% Playing staff - laboured through a season that they "expected" to walk through with ease and finish a comfortable mid-table at worst.

 

10% coaching/fitness staff - again same as players, seem to have taken a half arsed approach to all aspects.

Edited 15 May 2023 by Timmys Super Foxes

[murphy]

Apart from the obvious, I blame The World Cup,  We had just started to turn the corner and do well until that came along.

 

We don't do well with enforced breaks as covid showed.

[VintageFox73]

As my FB POST ON A FOXES PAGE !

 

Time to sell up Top ! You took your eye off the ball in the last 2 seasons.... you didn't listen to the grumblings from the supporters, 2 years this has been going on, we could see it and you chose to ignore it ! Only now when its to late are you seeing the effect of running a club badly ! 

 

100% on TOP as far as I'm concerned ! He had the power to to stop all this before it got yo this stage. Totally ruined his fathers work !

[Aus Fox]

Can I give 0.5% of the blame to that dickhead Wolves U21 defender who smashed Will Alves.

I’m sure if not for injury in this shite run he would have got minutes in the first team.

We might still have been crap but he might at least have given us some excitement along the way.

[ramaiya2]

90% Brendon Rodgers,

 

Left Soyuncu out for most of the season,

 

Kept Ward when he is not first team material

 

Sold Kasper

 

Subs late in games and wrong ones at that

 

 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Can someone collate all the results and display them in a handy and easily discernible pie-chart? Thanks.

Edited 16 May 2023 by SouthStandUpperTier

[Foxy-Lady]

On 12/05/2023 at 13:54, Babylon said:

It's not an easy one to answer, because at the end of the day they let that utter piece of shit stay in charge, and let him bring in his own utter shite team around him, whilst binning off trusted employees at his behest... BUT... I kinda get why they put a lot of faith in him considering the start we had. 

 

I can forgive a lot of things, whilst I don't agree with their decisions, I can at least understand them or understand how hard they are. What I cannot understand and I cannot forgive, is that wa**** rubbishing everyone and everything in the summer, absolving himself of blame constantly, telling the players they aren't good enough. 

 

The summer set the tone for the season, he could have chosen to be positive and bullish, or even go for a siege mentality. But no, it was all about HIM and his image.

 

So I lay 100% at his door.

I take your pint and understand your frustrations towards BR.....but regardless of the way he acted in the summer, the reality was that our financial situation HAS BEEN mis-managed, contracts HAVE BEEN poorly negotiated, our wage structure has spiralled out-of-control and our wages to revenue ratio has been unsustainable for a long while in the face of mounting year-on-year operating losses.

 

BR may have been wrong to express his opinions in the way he did and he may have done a s*** job from thereon.....but to blame BR for issues that will be the cornerstone of the financial meltdown that we are about to face for years to come is effectively turning a blind-eye to those who were the real cause of the financial tsunami that we are now facing.

 

Poor results should quite rightly reflect on BR and we can always find ourselves a new  manager.......financial mis-management is a completely different and equally serious issue which will affect the entire infra-structure and future of our club....BUT it is not so easily fixed and should be entrusted to proven professionals, not former academy managers.   

[Leicester_Loyal]

Our fans should be taking a portion of the blame.

[Foxin_Mad]

90% Brendan Rodgers 5% club 5% Happy Clapper Brendan fans

 

This has been building for years, Rodgers has diassembled departments, got rid of staff, frozen people out because of his massive orange face shiny white teethed ego.

 

He has assmebled and embedded within the squad a bunch of slow sideways passing, unfit, half arsed bottle jobs, with no integrity, spirit, fight, pride or determination. 

 

It was clear this was devloping in 20/21 the FA Cup papered over the cracks. The 2nd part of those seasons, those runs were attrocious and IMO sackable offences. 

[Tom12345]

90% Rodgers with his coaching, taking out confidence from the players, telling them they are shxt, making them become indecisive Rodgerball risk averse players (still remember he had a go at Tielemans for wanting to win against Spurs at the last minute but we ended up conceding - I would rather a Tielemans who goes for it and want to win any day than a Tielemans who would settle for a draw). His snake oil talk is just too good and with the players at his disposal you really can’t blame Top (who should not need to be in the everyday running of the club) for thinking that at worst we finish bottom half but not relegation!

 

10% Club for handing big contracts to the likes of Vesty and Bertrand and mismanaging contract renewals so that we have so many players with otherwise significant value about to walk on a free. Our bad recruitment and contracting management (but some blame on Rodgers again as he was the one who brought in Vesty for example) has limited what we can do with our squad. A major blunder is letting Lookman leave when we could have make his move permanent by paying 12m.

Edited 16 May 2023 by Tom12345

[jayfox26]

On 12/05/2023 at 13:59, Stinky said:

Players getting absolutely nowhere near enough of the blame here

Agreed. For a while I would have said 70% Rodgers but having seen the continued lack of fight from this rabble, they are just as bad as him. They can say Rodgers didn't help their confidence and motivation etc but why has that continued under another manager? Rodgers should have walked last summer and we probably should have sold some of these players last summer. Of course hindsight is a wonderful thing though and even with a different manager from the start, we could still have been in this mess 

[Foxin_Mad]

3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Agreed. For a while I would have said 70% Rodgers but having seen the continued lack of fight from this rabble, they are just as bad as him. They can say Rodgers didn't help their confidence and motivation etc but why has that continued under another manager? Rodgers should have walked last summer and we probably should have sold some of these players last summer. Of course hindsight is a wonderful thing though and even with a different manager from the start, we could still have been in this mess 

Thing is you cant change the ethos of a club and player mentality overnight.

 

There have been signs of slight improvements here and there, but its all too easy for them to slip back into Rodgersball a the first sign of trouble. 

 

Confidence is gone, they seem unfit or drained. 

 

I actually dont think the manager, coaches we have now are bad but they would need at tleast the close season to get this lot up to spec. 

[Tom12345]

3 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said:

I take your pint and understand your frustrations towards BR.....but regardless of the way he acted in the summer, the reality was that our financial situation HAS BEEN mis-managed, contracts HAVE BEEN poorly negotiated, our wage structure has spiralled out-of-control and our wages to revenue ratio has been unsustainable for a long while in the face of mounting year-on-year operating losses.

 

BR may have been wrong to express his opinions in the way he did and he may have done a s*** job from thereon.....but to blame BR for issues that will be the cornerstone of the financial meltdown that we are about to face for years to come is effectively turning a blind-eye to those who were the real cause of the financial tsunami that we are now facing.

 

Poor results should quite rightly reflect on BR and we can always find ourselves a new  manager.......financial mis-management is a completely different and equally serious issue which will affect the entire infra-structure and future of our club....BUT it is not so easily fixed and should be entrusted to proven professionals, not former academy managers.   

Look, with our success, the Club gambled financially to take us to the next level (your criticism is just a spur of the moment feeling; at the relevant times a few years ago, were you also happy with the money we spent on new players? were you screaming at the club to try to crystallize the unique success we had by putting in more money?). They trusted Rodgers, but they trusted him for far too long. He should have been sacked after our first choke. We had a good squad, and the Club trusted Rodgers by giving him funds to buy more players - but he keep making the club pay millions for players he did not use: Praet, Perez, Vesty, Soumare, Daka (to a large extent). That is already a lot for our Club but as mentioned the Club gambled. Had Rodgers not talked down on the players, instilled a loser mentality into the team, and choked, we may have just succeeded with CL qualification and the gamble would have paid off.

 

Then we choked the second time.

 

Then before last season, the Club gambled further by not selling any of our stars. But besides Rodgers, we also suffered bad luck with injuries (still questionable whether they were due to Rodgers’ mismanagement). But one bad luck was Fofana breaking his leg. I still remember how good our team was with Fofana. Again, if not for the bad luck, we could have had a chance at top 6 finish again (remember we were not too far off in the end), though if had achieved it it would have been paper over cracks left behind by Rodgers’ poison.

 

The Club then realized last summer that we need to wind back on the gamble but never could they imagine with our squad we could actually be relegated. Even the pessimistic fans would not have thought so summer of 2022.

 

The thing is, the Club gambled but they trusted the wrong guy in Rodgers. So the gamble hasn’t paid off, and now they realize what a mess Rodgers has left them. I still believe we are too good to go down with this squad - same squad that we had finish 5ths and 8th, but the long term loser mentality Rodger instilled is just too much to overcome in a short time. 

 

 

 

Edited 16 May 2023 by Tom12345

[filthyfox]

100% whoever didn't ditch Brendan in November

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Our fans should be taking a portion of the blame.

Pah 

 

Many of them on here too. All go into hiding though 

[john ridley]

Everybody from the chairman down .Everyone  gets the success so fail should be pinned on everyone as well .

[The boy Linacre]

Tell you what IF Top is really really bothered, whack out a big money player pool for the last 2 games and 2 wins, then we'll see how motivated and hard working (and greedy they are).

Its worth A LOT OF MONEY TO HIM to not go down.

 

Lets say £10m per game, with a £5m or even £10m bonus for staying up.

Football like sales about results and if you get them you should be compensated, this is his chance to incentivise them.

[Collibosher70]

33% bodgers  33% rudkin 33% players

1% tea lady

[weller54]

8 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Can someone collate all the results and display them in a handy and easily discernible pie-chart? Thanks.

 

[Oxfordfox83]

Rodgers 91%
Board 9%
 

Rodgers didn’t just fail, he stopped trying. He shouldn’t have signed a contract he knew he didn’t have the motivation or ability to follow through on. His coaching moved everybody except Madders backwards in 4 years. And by insisting on absolute filth like Congerton, we didn’t improve the squad even 1% during his tenure. 
 

Board should never have given him the contract, nor the freedom to hire and fire anybody. They were duped by an expensive charlatan, and they probably should have known better, but Brendan did it with malice, and I can’t bear to give him a lower share of the blame… 

[SK3Blue]

Board 33%

Players 33%

Rodgers 33%

Fofana 1% for the disruption, being a bell end, and French.