South Shire Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Wonder if he will be involved today now Newcastle talks seemed to have stalled. Or are we that desperate to sell him to get money in the door that he wont be risked all pre season?
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Declan Rice deal is now confirmed and official, will be interesting to see if West Ham now enter the bidding for Barnes, hopefully some additional interest will force Newcastles hand and a deal will be agreed fairly quickly.
Ric Flair Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 9 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: West Ham are more likely to try to negotiate the price down. They drive a hard bargain in a similar way to Spurs. They've paid some monster fees in the past. We'll not get more than £40m for Barnes up front but we ought to get that, rather than this drag on and on with low ball offers. 1
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Newcastle’s initial bid if reports are correct is £28m + £5m in add ons, I can’t see West Ham coming in with a counter offer of £25m and lower add ons, however if they do have an interest than it should mean we get closer to the £40m. I think it will end up being somewhere between £35m and £40m up front and then heavy add ons that takes the deal to around £50m dependent on individual and team success
1972 Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: They've paid some monster fees in the past. We'll not get more than £40m for Barnes up front but we ought to get that, rather than this drag on and on with low ball offers. Not so sure myself. £35m max is more likely IMO.
markko Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Barnes is a difficult one for me. He has talent and an eye for a goal. He does not assist much and he does.not.put a shift in either. When he is good he can produce things but when average he does very little. If we can get good money I would sell otherwise keep as he will score 20 plus next season. Goals will get us back up. 1
moore_94 Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 57 minutes ago, markko said: Barnes is a difficult one for me. He has talent and an eye for a goal. He does not assist much and he does.not.put a shift in either. When he is good he can produce things but when average he does very little. If we can get good money I would sell otherwise keep as he will score 20 plus next season. Goals will get us back up. To be fair he does absolutely have it in him to provide assists, he just seems to do it every other season 22/23 - 13 goals and 1 assist in the league - 13 goals and 3 assists in all competitions 21/22 - 6 goals and 10 assists in the league, only Trent and Salah got more assists in the league that season - 11 goals and 14 assists in all competitions 20/21 - 9 goals and 4 asssists in the league - 13 goals and 4 assists in all competitions 19/20 - 6 goals and 8 assists in the league - 7 goals and 9 assists in all competitions 18/19 - 1 goal and 2 assists in the league Total - 35 goals and 25 assists in the league - 45 goals and 32 assists in all competitions He isn't massively behind on assists compared to how many he has scored 4
An Sionnach Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 As I have said , if you are looking for a complete player , forget it , and he won't change much now. He will score goals , he has the instinct and he could do 20 in the PL with the right team. Goalscorers are expensive so we musn't let him go for less than £40 million. Michael Owen was a worse footballer than Harvey but fetched big money in transfer deals. Our problem is we are most unlikely to find somebody with his goal threat as a replacement.
Verumex Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 32 minutes ago, moore_94 said: To be fair he does absolutely have it in him to provide assists, he just seems to do it every other season 22/23 - 13 goals and 1 assist in the league - 13 goals and 3 assists in all competitions 21/22 - 6 goals and 10 assists in the league, only Trent and Salah got more assists in the league that season - 11 goals and 14 assists in all competitions 20/21 - 9 goals and 4 asssists in the league - 13 goals and 4 assists in all competitions 19/20 - 6 goals and 8 assists in the league - 7 goals and 9 assists in all competitions 18/19 - 1 goal and 2 assists in the league Total - 35 goals and 25 assists in the league - 45 goals and 32 assists in all competitions He isn't massively behind on assists compared to how many he has scored Sounds like his form depends heavily on our tactics at the time. I'd be very curious to see how he plays in a Pep style system. It's a shame that we're unlikely to see that.
yorkie1999 Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Barnes really should stick around and see how things go under the new manager, till January transfer at least. Okay, he could move to a prem side cos he's more than capable but then what? hope for another move to man city or arsenal or liverpool so he can win something. You never know, we might end up back in the prem, under a manager that plays exciting football with young players and he may regret leaving. Dropping down to the championship could just be the reset we need. 2
les-tah Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 I dont think we sell for £25 million. Promotion is worth more than that and his goals will get that.
South Shire Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 (edited) Deffo going to be off then if they still arent risking.. Edited 15 July 2023 by South Shire Fox 1
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 23 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said: Deffo going to be off then if they still arent risking.. Certainly looks that way must mean negotiations are progressing well and that an agreement is very close for him to move on
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 36 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said: Deffo going to be off then if they still arent risking.. Gone are the days where a maguire played to force the buyer to stump up the money we wanted ! 1
South Shire Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Gone are the days where a maguire played to force the buyer to stump up the money we wanted ! Not sure we wanted Maguire to go though. The club seems happy enough for Barnes to leave
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 3 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said: Not sure we wanted Maguire to go though. The club seems happy enough for Barnes to leave For £80m - we were content !
Joe90lcfc Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 On 13/07/2023 at 22:48, Claridge said: Barnes would be easily the best player in the championship It’s a shame he won’t be playing in the championship tbf
whoareyaaa Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 I think we should be keeping Barnes regardless, tough decision to make but ultimately we will lack his threat and that could be the difference in getting us up
snoopy87 Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 Think it was quite telling today that the number 7 was being worn by Madivadua
stu Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 9 minutes ago, snoopy87 said: Think it was quite telling today that the number 7 was being worn by Madivadua Maybe, but Stolarczyk was wearing 1, which is unlikely to be his actual shirt number.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 27 minutes ago, StanSP said: Barnes was 'injured' Where’s Maresca said this?
Verumex Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 28 minutes ago, StanSP said: Barnes was 'injured' What are the chances that he actually does have a minor injury that will stop him passing any medical until he recovers one week after the transfer window closes?
Verumex Posted 15 July 2023 Posted 15 July 2023 17 minutes ago, snoopy87 said: Think it was quite telling today that the number 7 was being worn by Madivadua Not really, I think they did similar stuff last year when certain players weren't in the squad for friendlies.
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