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This bloke is a disgrace to the shirt. At one point in the first half we were breaking, when the back 4 got to the halfway line as a unit, Winks and Soumare were some 15 yards behind. Sums up how lazy they are.

 

A gutless indivdual who has clearly downed tools, add him to the growing list of players who shouldn't be anywhere near the squad.

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Posted

Gudjohnsen drifted past him, for the first goal, with ease. Been seeing him let opposition players do this every week during his time here.

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It’s weird- we thought a couple of games ago he’d found some passion and was putting in the effort, but he’s reverted back to old self again hasn’t he. That shot from the corner in the 2nd half was abysmal. 

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5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

He's possibly the most fragile footballer I've ever seen. Fine when things are going well but as soon as there's a hint of adversity he disappears. Just a pussy frankly.

Agree, this fragility seem quite pervasive across this squad. 

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14 minutes ago, old koppite said:

It’s weird- we thought a couple of games ago he’d found some passion and was putting in the effort, but he’s reverted back to old self again hasn’t he. That shot from the corner in the 2nd half was abysmal. 

Did the exact same thing against Wrexham I think it was. Absolute shadow of the player he was - classic example of what happens when a player wants out. 

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4 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

He was brilliant against Hull and put a proper shift in then it seems that because he tried his best and we still lost that he's just thrown in the towel.

 

We really needed to shift him in the summer, it's frustrating because he can play well but his mentality and tendency to crumble under pressure is just pathetic. 

We never learn when we have a player with a year left. We don't sell them, don't renew them so we have a disruptive and complacent player who can't wait to leave.

 

We've been relegated once in part because Rudkin can't manage contract expiration, it might happen again. We have two long term options and they're shit

 

James - loan 2026 (might not even want to sign here)

Winks - 2026

Soumare - 2026

Choudhury - 2027

Skipp - 2029

 

 

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2 hours ago, hebangsthedrums said:

Great interview on the website;

“It’s not where I want to be,” he said. “I obviously have higher expectations than this. I want to be like where I was when we were here two years ago, but the reality of the situation is we are where we are.

“Others haven’t hit the form I’d have liked, but they can only improve and get better. It’s not the most ideal situation for us to be in, but in the Championship, things can change quickly – hopefully they can hit some form.

 

"As a team, in the Championship, if you don’t commit 100 per cent throughout the game then you will not get punished. The quality of opposition is obviously not very good as well so it’s important that we disrespect every opponent.

"I think we do that anyway but it’s about staying focused and making sure we’re ready to compete for 15 minutes or so"

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Awful player, so negative. For a central midfielder he creates next to nothing and scores barely any.Pathetic at tackling and heading. Excellent at 5 yd passes backwards though

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20 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Awful player, so negative. For a central midfielder he creates next to nothing and scores barely any.Pathetic at tackling and heading. Excellent at 5 yd passes backwards though

But would you play Skipp, Soumare, Choudhury ahead of him.

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Unfortunately he’s one of our better midfielders. Other than James, he’s better than the rest. Just shows you how shit our squad depth really is.

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15 hours ago, Claridge said:

Awful player, so negative. For a central midfielder he creates next to nothing and scores barely any.Pathetic at tackling and heading. Excellent at 5 yd passes backwards though

Scary that all the other centre mids we have are actually even worse at scoring and creating

 

Just a very sh!t group of them

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13 hours ago, Dan said:

He's Papy Mendy with an attitude problem.

 

He's right in the bomb squad for me if I'm manager. Another player who has taken the piss and been rewarded for it. Even given the captaincy on occasion.

 

What the hell does this club even stand for? There is not a jot of self-respect.

 

Van Nistelrooy was right about him.

I hear hes getting married.  His problem is finding a new club... he is not good enough for the epl but thinks he is.  Cant see the wife wanting to go to Europe.

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Over-rated Show Pony. Passes the bloody ball to the nearest player virtually every time then demands it back. Then does the same thing again. Get the impression he thinks it's the Harry Winks Show. Sad thing is that he's probably our best midfield player. Needs a Manager to rein him in a bit, unless he's creating some sort of tempo that Marti wants. Either way, he frustrates the hell out of me. 

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1 minute ago, l444ry said:

Over-rated Show Pony. Passes the bloody ball to the nearest player virtually every time then demands it back

 

I mean, this is just on you. I'm sorry but that's just your lack of understanding. 

 

There's some genuinely very valid things to criticise Winks for, he's started making a lot more mistakes, his effort and application wasn't what it used to be, he isn't tracking runners particularly well, he hasn't been perfect at all. 

 

But what you're describing and complaining about is exactly what he's supposed to do and what he does well. 

 

He moves the ball around and moves it around quickly, he drastically increases the tempo of our play and he does it better than anyone else in the squad. 

 

We look significantly worse when he isn't playing because Skipp and Soumare simply cannot do it and the ball never gets out of midfield. 

 

Winks suffers enormously this year because the options in front of him are consistently terrible but he's still easily the best we have. 

 

If Cifuentes football has any hope at success (and wanting us to play a different way as a fan is perfectly valid, I'm not questioning that part) and he's the manager we have for now whether people like it or not, it needs Winks doing exactly that. 

 

We have to keep passing. As the saying goes, we don't pass to move the ball, we pass to move the opposition. 

 

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

I mean, this is just on you. I'm sorry but that's just your lack of understanding. 

 

There's some genuinely very valid things to criticise Winks for, he's started making a lot more mistakes, his effort and application wasn't what it used to be, he isn't tracking runners particularly well, he hasn't been perfect at all. 

 

But what you're describing and complaining about is exactly what he's supposed to do and what he does well. 

 

He moves the ball around and moves it around quickly, he drastically increases the tempo of our play and he does it better than anyone else in the squad. 

 

We look significantly worse when he isn't playing because Skipp and Soumare simply cannot do it and the ball never gets out of midfield. 

 

Winks suffers enormously this year because the options in front of him are consistently terrible but he's still easily the best we have. 

 

If Cifuentes football has any hope at success (and wanting us to play a different way as a fan is perfectly valid, I'm not questioning that part) and he's the manager we have for now whether people like it or not, it needs Winks doing exactly that. 

 

We have to keep passing. As the saying goes, we don't pass to move the ball, we pass to move the opposition. 

 

That's pretty much what I have said. And he still frustrates me how he has to/decides to play that way.

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