Vestergaard

[Foxy DK]

19 hours ago, john ridley said:

He's as gutless as all the rest,doesn't  like getting  called out ,which he should be  used to as he's  crap, end of .How he blagged another contract only rudkin will know .Another  one that should be  ****ed off .

And a merry Christmas to you, Sir

[Blue-fox]

Out of our current options, he’s playing the two best centre halves we have in my opinion. The fullbacks aren’t helping them

out and losing Ndidi in front of them won’t be helping either. 

[Product of 84]

The full back one is an interesting issue.

 

Kristenson is so toothless in attack that opposition players don't bother tracking his runs because the Leicester lads have stopped passing to him. 

 

James just isn't doing it both in attack or defence. But why? This is a player that we know has quality (Arsenal away goal). 

 

Which got me looking back at some footage. The problem is the distance James has to cover. He isn't a full back. He is playing two positions. Full back and winger. But this is the killer for him. When we play Vesteguard we are so deep. The distance between our lines is great. This makes Justin's job harder as he is coming from a deep defence to supporting an attack and back again. He hasn't a prayer really due to the ground he has to cover. He is also dead on his feet when he has covered the ground which is why he is making mistakes. 

 

The answer to the right back problem is simple. Either the defence plays a higher line or they are told not to join the attack. Raneri worked this out early in the league winning season. He switched out our full backs to Simpson and Fuchs who defended. This would massively help our slow center backs who can't step up the pitch. Enzo's system also negated the distance a 'modern' full back had to cover as the left back joined the CBs and the right back stepped into the middle. 

 

Conclusion: With our CBs our Full Backs can't become wingers. We need a different system

[Foxy DK]

11 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

Kristenson is so toothless in attack that opposition players don't bother tracking his runs because the Leicester lads have stopped passing to him. 

I think he’s doing better in attack now and see no evidence whatsoever to support your claims. It’s interesting considering the slack you cut JJ - why the difference?

(It’s Kristensen) :-)

[whoareyaaa]

12 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

The full back one is an interesting issue.

 

Kristenson is so toothless in attack that opposition players don't bother tracking his runs because the Leicester lads have stopped passing to him. 

 

James just isn't doing it both in attack or defence. But why? This is a player that we know has quality (Arsenal away goal). 

 

Which got me looking back at some footage. The problem is the distance James has to cover. He isn't a full back. He is playing two positions. Full back and winger. But this is the killer for him. When we play Vesteguard we are so deep. The distance between our lines is great. This makes Justin's job harder as he is coming from a deep defence to supporting an attack and back again. He hasn't a prayer really due to the ground he has to cover. He is also dead on his feet when he has covered the ground which is why he is making mistakes. 

 

The answer to the right back problem is simple. Either the defence plays a higher line or they are told not to join the attack. Raneri worked this out early in the league winning season. He switched out our full backs to Simpson and Fuchs who defended. This would massively help our slow center backs who can't step up the pitch. Enzo's system also negated the distance a 'modern' full back had to cover as the left back joined the CBs and the right back stepped into the middle. 

 

Conclusion: With our CBs our Full Backs can't become wingers. We need a different system

This is a massive difference between us and Forest there full backs are extremely good, along with solid CBs.

 

Justin and Kristenen will never be good enough imo, we should be looking to replace both if we want to have any chance surviving... I think our CBs options are OK but not with the current two either side.

[Paninistickers]

Well, I thought he was outstanding again today. Such a cool head. Such a clever player.

 

Will be a huge loss if his injury is bad. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

4 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Well, I thought he was outstanding again today. Such a cool head. Such a clever player.

 

Will be a huge loss if his injury is bad. 

That header for the first was really bad. It was straight into the path of the danger man. Overall, it wasn’t the cbs who were the problem today.

[Kuredufox]

Think any centre half should never head it down especially centrally.

 

[Richmondfox]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

That header for the first was really bad. It was straight into the path of the danger man. Overall, it wasn’t the cbs who were the problem today.

It was a perfect pass, he could’ve aimed anywhere but it went to the player unmarked a few metres away. 

Edited 4 January by Richmondfox

[Raj]

Excellent today until that stupid header straight to Barclay.

 

These stupid sunday league mistakes are going to cost us our place in this league.

 

That's the different  between Premier league and championship as a championship player like Daka would have hit that into Row T!!

[Dahnsouff]

16 minutes ago, Raj said:

Excellent today until that stupid header straight to Barclay.

 

These stupid sunday league mistakes are going to cost us our place in this league.

 

That's the different  between Premier league and championship as a championship player like Daka would have hit that into Row T!!

Yea, that header was dumb, but was also curious why all our other players had left the edge of the penalty box unmarked!

[StanSP]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

That header for the first was really bad. It was straight into the path of the danger man. Overall, it wasn’t the cbs who were the problem today.

As much as the header wasn't the best, you'd kind of want to expect at least one of your teammates to be alert to someone hanging around at the edge of the box. 

 

Need to watch it back again but where were any of our midfielders? Where's the anticipation from other players to be aware of the potential danger? 

[HybridFox]

He cleared the ball out, ideally would have been somewhere else or got more on it but he did his job. The fact no one else was alert to take the second ball and criminally left a player unmarked around the edge of the box 

[Fox92]

Should never really head it centrally like that but God knows where the midfielders were again.

[coolhandfox]

Players are going to make the odd mistake team mates need to help them out.

[Chelmofox]

This is when he makes the header. We are very bunched up on the right hand side but that header goes straight to Barclay. Barclay shouldn't be on his own but Vesty needs to do better there.

 

Other than this i thought he looked good. Any news on the injury?

 

Edited 5 January by Chelmofox

[Wolfox]

Pinning that goal on him is a little harsh…. I know MoTD flagged it, but your just trying to clear as hard and far as you can sometimes…. I don’t see him as being at fault…

 

JJ however…. Pin away!

Edited 5 January by Wolfox

[Mickyblueeyes]

22 hours ago, StanSP said:

As much as the header wasn't the best, you'd kind of want to expect at least one of your teammates to be alert to someone hanging around at the edge of the box. 

 

Need to watch it back again but where were any of our midfielders? Where's the anticipation from other players to be aware of the potential danger? 

Yeah Bilal left Barclay and didn’t track

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

BARKLEY

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

BARKLEY

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

On 04/01/2025 at 21:25, Raj said:

Excellent today until that stupid header straight to Barclay.

 

These stupid sunday league mistakes are going to cost us our place in this league.

 

That's the different  between Premier league and championship as a championship player like Daka would have hit that into Row T!!

You’re saying he would have made contact with the ball then?

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Yeah Bilal left Barclay and didn’t track

You can bank on that

[scinnell]

The spelling of Barkley 😂

[Raj]

8 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

You’re saying he would have made contact with the ball then?

Okay give you that he would have fallen over attempting to kick it!!!

[Leeds Fox]

On 04/01/2025 at 22:33, StanSP said:

As much as the header wasn't the best, you'd kind of want to expect at least one of your teammates to be alert to someone hanging around at the edge of the box. 

 

Need to watch it back again but where were any of our midfielders? Where's the anticipation from other players to be aware of the potential danger? 

That’s where the header was always going wasn’t it. Can’t recall it perfectly but he was stepping back so couldn’t generate much power on it. 
 

Those 2nd balls should be dealt with by the midfield or someone stepping out from defence otherwise. The ball went into the busiest area of the pitch, which SHOULD be the safest (rather than wide leaving a defender isolated or out for a corner). Barkley took the goal extremely well to be fair but there should be more pressure on the ball.