Vestergaard

[st albans fox]

39 minutes ago, Heskey2011 said:

He's currently on for motm against Portugal look at these numbers, are we just using him wrong?? This makes no sense.

Let’s hope he keeps it going - might bring in a few million in the summer !

[jayfox26]

To be fair to him, he doesn't have Faes next to him playing for Denmark. 

 

I'd still pick Vestergaard ahead of Faes any day of the week. Whilst he has his weaknesses, pace being the main one, I don't doubt the guy does try, which cannot be said of Faes. 

[shen]

13 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

To be fair to him, he doesn't have Faes next to him playing for Denmark. 

 

I'd still pick Vestergaard ahead of Faes any day of the week. Whilst he has his weaknesses, pace being the main one, I don't doubt the guy does try, which cannot be said of Faes. 

It is a bit curious how Vestergaard starts for Denmark while Leicester starters Kristiansen and Hermansen don't feature.

[The Horse's Mouth]

2 hours ago, Heskey2011 said:

He's currently on for motm against Portugal look at these numbers, are we just using him wrong?? This makes no sense.

A broken clock is right twice a day 

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level. 

[Sly]

3 hours ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level. 

I’ve said this for seasons. 
 

He has clear weaknesses but we almost try our hardest to espouse them. 

[jayfox26]

7 hours ago, shen said:

It is a bit curious how Vestergaard starts for Denmark while Leicester starters Kristiansen and Hermansen don't feature.

Yes I find it strange that they still pick Kasper to be fair. Similar to Portugal still picking Ronaldo and us picking the likes of Henderson in the squad. Surely at some point you'd think these teams would start using younger players.

[Foxy DK]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

Yes I find it strange that they still pick Kasper to be fair. Similar to Portugal still picking Ronaldo and us picking the likes of Henderson in the squad. Surely at some point you'd think these teams would start using younger players.

There’s a big difference between keepers and outfield players tbf. Kasper is still very, very good, he knows the squad, has experience from big games and is a great leader. Last night he made a very athletic save showing he still got it, and even though Hermansen is better with his feet I’m not sure Andersen and Vestergaard would be as secure with him behind them - yet.

 

The reason Vestergaard starts is simply a lack of alternatives. Christensen is injured more or less permanently, Kjaer has stopped his career, Nelsson hasn’t impressed and Zanka no longer plays for the NT - the latter was a backup anyway with Vestergaard as first sub for the back 3. Now we play with a back 4 and the next in line is a youngster playing for a Danish club. Contrast that with Hermansen’sposition where we have at least three very good players and Kristiansen who competes with Maehle and Dorgu.

[jayfox26]

44 minutes ago, Foxy DK said:

There’s a big difference between keepers and outfield players tbf. Kasper is still very, very good, he knows the squad, has experience from big games and is a great leader. Last night he made a very athletic save showing he still got it, and even though Hermansen is better with his feet I’m not sure Andersen and Vestergaard would be as secure with him behind them - yet.

 

The reason Vestergaard starts is simply a lack of alternatives. Christensen is injured more or less permanently, Kjaer has stopped his career, Nelsson hasn’t impressed and Zanka no longer plays for the NT - the latter was a backup anyway with Vestergaard as first sub for the back 3. Now we play with a back 4 and the next in line is a youngster playing for a Danish club. Contrast that with Hermansen’sposition where we have at least three very good players and Kristiansen who competes with Maehle and Dorgu.

Yeh I do kind of get it with Kasper but at some point, Hermansen will need to take over. Will Kasper still be number one in the next tournament next year? 

[Fox92]

8 hours ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level. 

He can't do anything. What are his actual strengths? 

 

Can't run, has no pace, can't win headers (despite his height), isn't strong enough.

 

He is an absolute shit defender and I can't believe people still post positively about him.

Edited 21 March by Fox92

[deep blue]

Just now, Fox92 said:

He can't do anything. What are his actual strengths? 

 

Can't run, has no pace, can't win headers (despite his height), isn't strong enough.

 

He is an absolute shit defender and I can't believe people still post positively about him.

But he was in the team that beat W Ham.  Just saying ...

[Richmondfox]

10 hours ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level. 

He also has midfielders in front of him that tackle and track.  At times it seems our cbs are caught off guard by the ease that players make it through the middle. 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, deep blue said:

But he was in the team that beat W Ham.  Just saying ...

We also got battered that game and it was only down to West Ham's poor finishing they didn't actually beat us.

[shen]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

He can't do anything. What are his actual strengths? 

 

Can't run, has no pace, can't win headers (despite his height), isn't strong enough.

 

He is an absolute shit defender and I can't believe people still post positively about him.

He's somewhere in between, isn't he? He has big strengths and big weaknesses. If used to his strengths, he's solid, if not, he's a liability. 

[Chelmofox]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

But he was in the team that beat W Ham.  Just saying ...

And in the team that lost to West Ham. Had a shocker that game, including an own goal.

[The Guvnor]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

He can't do anything. What are his actual strengths? 

 

Can't run, has no pace, can't win headers (despite his height), isn't strong enough.

 

He is an absolute shit defender and I can't believe people still post positively about him.

He can ping a long ball down the channels.

He is poor in most other areas, a sort of pound shop Dan Burn.

[CosbehFox]

Don’t trick yourselves. Playing deep in a back 3.
 

Not overly sustainable in the long run and a sad point how Denmark have regressed from being a really canny opponent to bus ball until their next crop comes through 

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, shen said:

He's somewhere in between, isn't he? He has big strengths and big weaknesses. If used to his strengths, he's solid, if not, he's a liability. 

What strengths? I've never seen them. He has only ever looked good for us when we were in the second tier.

[BKLFox]

I didn't watch the game but looking at stats alone it looked to me that Denmark were more on the front foot with 23/9 shots to Portugal's 8/2 with 1 of those 2 shots 'on target' for Portugal coming in the 90+ minute, sounds to me that Vestergaard didn't have much 'defending' to do & people getting carried away like last season with his ability to sit on the h/way line putting the odd good ball in because the opposition didn't pose much of a threat.

As i say i didn't watch the game so unless someone tells me that he was like a lion smashing in tackles, perfectly shepherding forwards down blind alleys, leaping majestically to head out every high ball  whilst taking full control & marshaling his backline colleagues like Franco Baresi i won't believe he's anything other than a number on a team sheet & will look past the comments of "Vestergaard down as MotM for me so far..." etc that i have seen.
 

[AjcW]

It's simple no?

Andersen and Maele next to him

Hjulmand and Norgaard in front of him

Kasper behind him

 

A LOT of footballers are only as good as the players around them, especially confidence players. 

[Dan]

Portugal going to piss another tournament away indulging Ronaldo.

[SafewayFox]

5 hours ago, The Guvnor said:

He can ping a long ball down the channels.

He is poor in most other areas, a sort of pound shop Dan Burn.

No knock on Dan Burn but that’s another testament to how far we’ve fallen.

 

Will always remember the run around Barnes gave Burn for Brighton a few years ago.

 

Back to Jannik, we’re stuck with the big lump until his contract runs out aren’t we?

 

If we re-sign a single crop of our players outside BEK and Mads, then we deserve everything that comes our way.

[filbertway]

39 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

No knock on Dan Burn but that’s another testament to how far we’ve fallen.

 

Will always remember the run around Barnes gave Burn for Brighton a few years ago.

 

Back to Jannik, we’re stuck with the big lump until his contract runs out aren’t we?

 

If we re-sign a single crop of our players outside BEK and Mads, then we deserve everything that comes our way.

If Barnes gave Burn the runaround then Brighton must have been playing their left footed CB at RB 

[FoxTimmy2]

18 hours ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level. 

Exactly. There's a reason Enzo got the best out of him in the Championship, but watching last night's highlights for Denmark - as well as previous games - it's clear we're not using him correctly. Either that, or we simply don't have the players to make it work. Still think we should sell him.

[SafewayFox]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

If Barnes gave Burn the runaround then Brighton must have been playing their left footed CB at RB 

I was genuinely adamant it was Barnes but back when we were half decent.
 

I used to love playing Brighton when they played Burns at LB and remember us scoring quite a few times from cut backs against them (from his side).

Edited 21 March by SafewayFox