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On 05/09/2023 at 07:30, Jimbo said:

I'm still not over Zsolts Laczko, as I said previously lol

 

I'd never been so excited about a player after their debut, and I've refused to get excited since. 

 

My biggest worry is how Enzo will manage and coach this guy. I'm getting sick of comparing Enzo to Pep, but look how Pep coached Grealish. He turned turned what was effectively raw talent of carrying the ball into a stop, think and make the pass kind of player. 

This kid obviously likes to run at his defender and try to make things happen, early signs are that Enzo doesn't want us to play that way. I know there's very little evidence to suggest this will happen, but 1st impressions say that it might. 

 

We can only hope it wasn't just one of those debuts and he's allowed to carry on that way, and of course he had the ability to carry on that way

Don’t think grealish was a raw talent

14 goals 16 assists in his final two Villa seasons in 61 games 

 

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On 05/09/2023 at 07:30, Jimbo said:

I'm still not over Zsolts Laczko, as I said previously lol

 

I'd never been so excited about a player after their debut, and I've refused to get excited since. 

 

My biggest worry is how Enzo will manage and coach this guy. I'm getting sick of comparing Enzo to Pep, but look how Pep coached Grealish. He turned turned what was effectively raw talent of carrying the ball into a stop, think and make the pass kind of player. 

This kid obviously likes to run at his defender and try to make things happen, early signs are that Enzo doesn't want us to play that way. I know there's very little evidence to suggest this will happen, but 1st impressions say that it might. 

 

We can only hope it wasn't just one of those debuts and he's allowed to carry on that way, and of course he had the ability to carry on that way

Pep loves players that are excellent 1v1 dribblers, their team is full of them: Grealish, Doku, Silva, Nunes, Kovacic all excel at that and it gives you such an advantage if you have a player than can regularly beat someone in a 1v1. Enzo won’t look to coach it out of him, only teach him how to be more effective at it for the sake of team.

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29 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Why are fans on this forum already declaring Enzo Maresca as some kind of attacking killjoy? The guy worked under Pep Guardiola to create teams that scored tons of goals, and managed the same thing himself when in charge of their U23 team.

 

Fatawu is a winger. Here is a move below featuring a winger from the opposite side. Does this look like a manager that has "coached the attack mindedness" out of a player? Because to me, it looks like a player busting his gut to join in with the move to try and finish. The finish is awful, but the timing of the run and the attacking intent is not.

 

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Here's another move, featuring a winger on the same side Fatawu plays on. Does this look like the attack mindedness has been coached out of the player? Or does it look like a winger who has come off the touchline to attack the space that is vacated by the opposition fullback to score a goal?

 

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We play a patient game and build our moves very slow and methodically. Clearly, that is extremely boring for a lot of our fans. But to say Maresca is not an attacking coach is not true. For both of these moves, look how many players get into the box to support the attack. Under Rodgers we sometimes only had two players in the box, for that McAteer one, by the end I count 6.

 

Maresca will give Fatawu structure so that when he does his thing, it makes a difference. Not have a wild lash at the ball in the 91st minute when we are 1-0 down, like he did against Hull.

This. Some of our fans are clueless. Unless it's 80sc style long ball they think everybody is being coached to not attack.

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Enzo has said multiple times in speaking to the media that he wants aggressive, attacking wingers because the “idea” is to create a 1v1 situation out wide where the winger is then told to attack the box to either get a shot off, get a cross in, play a cutback pass or play a slide ball to a 8 moving in the half space. This role is made for a player like Fatawu.

 

I’ve got a feeling that Yunus may end up in a Bernardo Silva type role for us (a winger moving to play inside) as I could see him playing as an 8 in this system because I can’t see him starting many games over Abdul. 

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I don't blame people for being worried about how these players will take on this philosophy because you are coached to run at players less. The issue is when you aren't free flowing with great, intelligent players like Man City it absolutely can become a boring sideways pass fest. If it isn't done right it's awful to watch.

 

Fortunately I think we have more than enough quality to make it work. 

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Posted
On 06/09/2023 at 21:31, StriderHiryu said:

For both of these moves, look how many players get into the box to support the attack. Under Rodgers we sometimes only had two players in the box, for that McAteer one, by the end I count 6.

This has been the hallmark difference between Enzo and Rodgers for me so far, and I'm here for it.

 

Nowhere near perfect but when they're gelled, it'll be wonderful to watch.

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On 07/09/2023 at 10:18, Clever Fox said:

The goal keeping thing for instance with 2 on the Bench is a strange one. 

As soon as the window closed he went to Mads on the pitch and Stolarczyk on the bench.

 

Who knows what his point was, something to do with letting the out-of-favour or wantaway players know that no way would they sully his matchday squad? Or drawing attention to the surfeit of keepers?

 

Was it a message to the players or the board? 

 

Either way I think he's made his point and we'll be with our regular 2 from now on.

 

 

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What did people make of this lad on Friday night when he came on ? Instantly booked but again showed glimpses of power and speed taking his man on and putting kel tbrough aswell. 

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Sankey93 said:

What did people make of this lad on Friday night when he came on ? Instantly booked but again showed glimpses of power and speed taking his man on and putting kel tbrough aswell. 

That should've been an assist. Dreadful miss by Kel.

But the game was done by the time AFI came on, so it's not really worth judging his cameo.

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Posted
1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

The excitement of him being so good from the first minute and his FB having to be taken off is a real reality isn’t it.

 

A HUGE talent in the making.

Why did they make him take his facebook page down? 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...someone is going to end up in intensive care!!!

Mate my chocolate habanero’s are hot enough. Got an absolute bumper crop of chillis and peppers - in Wales 🤣🤣

 

Next year, Carolina Reapers - oh yes. 

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