Marc Albrighton

[dmayne7]

28 minutes ago, J. James said:

Albrighton on City’s relegation in 2023🎙️

 

‘We were going into games, fearing teams that we should never have been fearing. Going into games… not really knowing what we were doing.. and that’s not on Brendan Rodgers.. we were just lost’

 

Well personally I'd say that is 100% on Rodgers, i can however understand Marc not wanting to throw proverbial stones but come on, if thats not a coaches job first and foremost what is?

It was then exactly as it appeared, they couldn't play the way that stupid stubborn idiot wanted and frankly it was obvious to everyone except one man.

 

Just the way it's worded tells you it's definitely Rodgers. I mean, the manager is not able to give the players any sense of direction, it's clear he's lost the plot.

[Mickyblueeyes]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

 

Surely the facilities have been provided for them to succeed and be their best; the staff and players have turned it into a comfortable place to be. 

I don't buy that the place is too nice.

We dont really attract "big" players. Even at our best, our key players had significant flaws, which they still carry now. People like Maddison, Tielemans, Soyuncu, Evans etc. need big players around them when the going gets tough. Its like anything in life, too many shinny things for people who are not at the level can have an adverse impact. It had it for us. With Kasper going it was effectively Vardy on his own trying to carry the standards and we all saw the impact that had on him that season. 

 

On Marc's second comment - it absolutely was the manager if you were lost fella. 

[Chrysalis]

Came here to post the article, but I see its here already, yeah I find his comments very interesting as I speculated Seagrave was a problem and now we have a player who was here pre Seagrave, and during it say what I was thinking.

[Jon the Hat]

On 22/08/2024 at 18:53, UniFox21 said:

 

Surely the facilities have been provided for them to succeed and be their best; the staff and players have turned it into a comfortable place to be. 

I don't buy that the place is too nice.

Agree, the staff have got too relaxed imo.

[Stuntman_Mike]

Albrighton doesn't say it was too comfortable in that quote. Yeah he says it was like a spa in parts, but that doesn't mean the players aren't pushed to better themselves or are "too comfortable". Seagrave isn't the issue imo, it's more likely to attract players, it's the people in charge that need to make sure complacency doesn't creep in because of how nice the place is.

[Chrysalis]

Just now, Stuntman_Mike said:

Albrighton doesn't say it was too comfortable in that quote. Yeah he says it was like a spa in parts, but that doesn't mean the players aren't pushed to better themselves or are "too comfortable". Seagrave isn't the issue imo, it's more likely to attract players, it's the people in charge that need to make sure complacency doesn't creep in because of how nice the place is.

Isnt the best way to prevent that complacency by making the place not nice?

 

The location is daft as well, LCFC is a football club representing the city, the training ground should be in the city, preferably in a residential area, not in the middle of nowhere fenced off from the world.

[Stuntman_Mike]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

Isnt the best way to prevent that complacency by making the place not nice?

 

The location is daft as well, LCFC is a football club representing the city, the training ground should be in the city, preferably in a residential area, not in the middle of nowhere fenced off from the world.

Why would you want to make it "not nice" 

 

I really don't see the problem with it being in the same county tbh. You say fenced off from the world as if anyone could go in as and when they please down Belvior Drive. If anything, Seagrave is more open to the public with the games they play down there.

[Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

Why would you want to make it "not nice" 

 

I really don't see the problem with it being in the same county tbh. You say fenced off from the world as if anyone could go in as and when they please down Belvior Drive. If anything, Seagrave is more open to the public with the games they play down there.

The distance is a barrier to the public.  How many buses go to the ground, and how easy is to walk there for city residents?

[coolhandfox]

6 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Isnt the best way to prevent that complacency by making the place not nice?

 

The location is daft as well, LCFC is a football club representing the city, the training ground should be in the city, preferably in a residential area, not in the middle of nowhere fenced off from the world.

 

Why? 

[Stuntman_Mike]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

The distance is a barrier to the public.  How many buses go to the ground, and how easy is to walk there for city residents?

I'd sooner get a bus/taxi/drive to somewhere that is allowing entry than walk somewhere to look at a closed fence 

[Chrysalis]

I know the FT peeps are pretty supportive of Seagrave, not recognising the issues of pampering players, isolating them from the world, the city, so I am not going to go against the wind, but will leave it at a experienced player stating the problems means more than outside observers thinking something fancy and expensive can only mean good things.

[volpeazzurro]

On 22/08/2024 at 13:40, Mickyblueeyes said:

We dont really attract "big" players. Even at our best, our key players had significant flaws, which they still carry now. People like Maddison, Tielemans, Soyuncu, Evans etc. need big players around them when the going gets tough. Its like anything in life, too many shinny things for people who are not at the level can have an adverse impact. It had it for us. With Kasper going it was effectively Vardy on his own trying to carry the standards and we all saw the impact that had on him that season. 

 

On Marc's second comment - it absolutely was the manager if you were lost fella. 

Captain Charlatan was only interested in himself. If he couldn't direct the team on what they should be doing tactically, what was the point of him? They'd have been better off without any manager at all rather than him simpering up to the media in the background. 

[lcfc sheff]

ffs as if the training ground is getting the blame and not the people running the club and the ground! do we think Man City train in the local park?

[Claudio Fannieri]

I am sorry the training ground isn’t the problem, it’s the mentality of the players, coaching staff, Directors and owners that set the tone not the surroundings. 
 

if it was a shithole the excuse would be it’s not fit for purpose and promotes the club is unprofessional. 
 

State of the art facilities should be a huge selling point for the club. Didnt seem to be an issue last season, easy excuse when we are doing poorly. 

[nnfox]

Truly elite level sport is utterly cut-throat.  You need players who have ambition to put everything to one side to become the very best they can be and a management structure that supports those ambitions and accepts nothing less than the very best from the individuals who they pay millions for every year.

 

Soft and cuddly has it's place but accepting low standards doesn't.  Having both at the same time is a disaster.

 

With Seagrave, we have a facility that is capable of a foot in the door with elite level players, but accepting low standards from journeymen ruins it all.

[HankMarvin]

2 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

I know the FT peeps are pretty supportive of Seagrave, not recognising the issues of pampering players, isolating them from the world, the city, so I am not going to go against the wind, but will leave it at a experienced player stating the problems means more than outside observers thinking something fancy and expensive can only mean good things.

Man City have nice things and facilities. Guess it comes down to what the mindset is, and the type of Manager that lets it become too comfortable. Did Rodger’s live there during the week?

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

We were crap because we have a good training ground. Got it.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

It's been mentioned several times the training ground is an issue on here and now a former player has said it.

 

It breeds entitlement and the players aren't pushed. At the top level of sport, things like this matter.

[UniFox21]

1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

It's been mentioned several times the training ground is an issue on here and now a former player has said it.

 

It breeds entitlement and the players aren't pushed. At the top level of sport, things like this matter.

Yet you go to the likes of of the big sides with incredible facilities and you don't see it there.

 

Any sort of entitlement or getting comfortable should have been slapped out of the players as soon as any amount was noticed. Poor leadership from the squad, management and senior management 

[BKLFox]

Does that mean The ladies team will be in for another shocker this season living it up at Belvoir drive then 🤷‍♂️ 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

14 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

It's been mentioned several times the training ground is an issue on here and now a former player has said it.

 

It breeds entitlement and the players aren't pushed. At the top level of sport, things like this matter.

For balance

'There's now no real excuse for us as players' - Coady on training ground

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c0dgjkr1jm1o

 

"It's an incredible place, an absolutely incredible place," Coady told BBC Radio 5 Live's Monday Night Club.

 

"Since the first day I got here, what the lads have been like, what the people have been like, it's full of fantastic people.

 

"The place itself is absolutely unbelievable and it's a pleasure to come to work every day.

 

"The whole complex is unbelievable. There's now no real excuse for us as players.

 

"There's nothing we can look at and say: 'We've not got this, or not got that.' We can train, and train to our maximum, every single day because of everything that is here.

 

"Players stay here throughout the week to make sure we train right, we recover right, we eat right, we do everything right.

 

"It's important we use that to the best of our abilities and make sure we keep improving every day."

[Collymore]

3 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

For balance

'There's now no real excuse for us as players' - Coady on training ground

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c0dgjkr1jm1o

 

"It's an incredible place, an absolutely incredible place," Coady told BBC Radio 5 Live's Monday Night Club.

 

"Since the first day I got here, what the lads have been like, what the people have been like, it's full of fantastic people.

 

"The place itself is absolutely unbelievable and it's a pleasure to come to work every day.

 

"The whole complex is unbelievable. There's now no real excuse for us as players.

 

"There's nothing we can look at and say: 'We've not got this, or not got that.' We can train, and train to our maximum, every single day because of everything that is here.

 

"Players stay here throughout the week to make sure we train right, we recover right, we eat right, we do everything right.

 

"It's important we use that to the best of our abilities and make sure we keep improving every day."

That's all well and good Connor, but you've gone from having an unblemished injury record to be almost as inconsistent as Darren Anderton since ever setting foot in Seageave.