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This thread has now reached 296 pages of mostly pointless conjecture (I include my own contributions in that assessment).

 

He was the wrong appointment but, having made it, he isn’t going to be sacked without a compelling case to do so. That’s in the bottom 3 after a significant number of games. 
 

Given our next run of fixtures our destiny under Cooper will become clearer as we approach the Christmas schedule. I wouldn’t expect any change before the January window. That’s despite the fact that this thread will probably have doubled in size by then with more pointless comments - including a few from myself no doubt. 

Posted
38 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I don't think the club ever expected a points deduction.

That’s poses the question of why cooper then…

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6 minutes ago, FLAN said:

That’s poses the question of why cooper then…

The club expecting no deduction vs convincing prospective managerial candidates that we wouldn't get one are 2 different things. 

 

The threat of the deduction + newly promoted + not much money to spend = an unattractive job, especially for the managers we were likely initially targeting 

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Our fixtures between now & the NewYear are very nasty

Chelsea.      H

Brentford     A

W Ham         H

Brighton.      H

Newcastle   A

Wolves         H

Liverpool     A

Man C.         H

I really don't see much in the way of points with the possibility of wins against Wham & Wolves & I expect us to be bottom three by New Years day.  The club will have no choice but to fire Cooper at that point but who will be available as a replacement is anyones guess.    Personally I would love to see David Moyes take over.

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6 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

Our fixtures between now & the NewYear are very nasty

Chelsea.      H

Brentford     A

W Ham         H

Brighton.      H

Newcastle   A

Wolves         H

Liverpool     A

Man C.         H

I really don't see much in the way of points with the possibility of wins against Wham & Wolves & I expect us to be bottom three by New Years day.  The club will have no choice but to fire Cooper at that point but who will be available as a replacement is anyones guess.    Personally I would love to see David Moyes take over.

The longer we take to pull the trigger, the more expensive it’s going to be to get anyone in cos we’ll be in a much worse position 

 

suspect there won’t be many takers we’d approve of if we’re ensconced in the bottom three. 

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49 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

Our fixtures between now & the NewYear are very nasty

Chelsea.      H

Brentford     A

W Ham         H

Brighton.      H

Newcastle   A

Wolves         H

Liverpool     A

Man C.         H

I really don't see much in the way of points with the possibility of wins against Wham & Wolves & I expect us to be bottom three by New Years day.  The club will have no choice but to fire Cooper at that point but who will be available as a replacement is anyones guess.    Personally I would love to see David Moyes take over.

Get Moyes in now would give us a chance in those games to sure up the defence and such, it would probably work out.

 

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Get Moyes in now would give us a chance in those games to sure up the defence and such, it would probably work out.

 

 

West Ham let over 70 goals in last season in the league. Its one of the reasons why they moved Moyes on.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Get Moyes in now would give us a chance in those games to sure up the defence and such, it would probably work out.

 

 

With the defence we have you cant polish a turd.

Posted
4 minutes ago, slymunn said:

West Ham let over 70 goals in last season in the league. Its one of the reasons why they moved Moyes on.

Still think he would keep us up, Can't see Cooper doing it

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20 minutes ago, slymunn said:

West Ham let over 70 goals in last season in the league. Its one of the reasons why they moved Moyes on.

Should've been renamed West Sham, after them moving into that Olympic Stadium..

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1 hour ago, gurru991 said:

Our fixtures between now & the NewYear are very nasty

Chelsea.      H

Brentford     A

W Ham         H

Brighton.      H

Newcastle   A

Wolves         H

Liverpool     A

Man C.         H

I really don't see much in the way of points with the possibility of wins against Wham & Wolves & I expect us to be bottom three by New Years day.  The club will have no choice but to fire Cooper at that point but who will be available as a replacement is anyones guess.    Personally I would love to see David Moyes take over.

You seem so certain.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

You seem so certain.

I have very little confidence in Rudkin or Top making good decisions but bottom three in January will put huge financial pressure on them to make a decision.   They left it to the last minute with Brendan & the lack of a back up plan was pretty obvious.  I'm hoping that the last relegation experience will influence their thought process this time around.

I'm certain that changing managers is the right call but I'm not certain the right call will be made !!!

Posted
3 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

The club expecting no deduction vs convincing prospective managerial candidates that we wouldn't get one are 2 different things. 

 

The threat of the deduction + newly promoted + not much money to spend = an unattractive job, especially for the managers we were likely initially targeting 

This is exactly it

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4 hours ago, Bryn said:

I’d take Carsley. Our last manager who was involved in the U21s turned out alright.

For everyone laughing at this - it is referring to Pearson, not the Tater Peeler. So I guess with England u21 alumni there's a 50/50 chance of building the greatest team you'll ever have or destroying the club for a decade lol

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1 hour ago, slymunn said:

West Ham let over 70 goals in last season in the league. Its one of the reasons why they moved Moyes on.

Yes exactly this. Also how to sure up a defence with Justin, VK, faes, okoli, vesty. Stopping goals with that mob is like telling the tide not to come in. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

For everyone laughing at this - it is referring to Pearson, not the Tater Peeler. So I guess with England u21 alumni there's a 50/50 chance of building the greatest team you'll ever have or destroying the club for a decade lol

 

People are probably laughing because it's a crap suggestion imo!

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Random musings but i've said a few times in this thread i'm worried that we no longer have a "Club coach" who isn't attached to the manager.


I've realised Ben Dawson who joined from Newcastle is that person, he has no ties or links to Cooper in the past.

 

He's also been a technical director at Newcastle in the past, so would have the experience of bringing in staff and transitioning in new coaching/management teams.


Felt it was important to bring up!

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