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Premier League 2024/25

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Super_horns

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

He was ok

i think he was head of refs before he got sacked or overlooked when restructuried- so probably just bitter !

Yes feel you are right there.

 

Maybe he just says it as it is whereas some of the others look for a way out or excuse.

 

TBF if they are mates don't blame them as such although not very helpful.

 

I mean look at what has happened to David Coote when falling out with some of his!

 

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

That riverside stand has been an odd idea. Essentially made it 100% corporate. Looks empty most weeks. 

Costs a bomb and a half to sit in I understand - even for Fulham fans. 

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Super_horns

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25 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Stick a fork in him. 

 

 

 

On that one he could just deny that unless there is a message or two which actually shows him talking about a   "drugs party" though?

 

He ought to be concentrating on the game in hand regardless. 

 

Still even so very stupid and deserves to be punished as he will have no respect or faith at all in him. 

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coolhandfox

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41 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Absolutely no surprise where the space is given by us lol

Which just reinforces it a tactical/structure issue.

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FoyleFox

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21 hours ago, AjcW said:

That riverside stand has been an odd idea. Essentially made it 100% corporate. Looks empty most weeks. 

It's still not finished but does have (rich) ordinary ST seats. I sat in there for our game, just purchased a normal ticket. But a lot more corporate areas are in there. 

The inside and riverwalk area are nice though. 

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Gubbins

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I've moaned a few times about people on here using the word identity as regards football and how it's just an overused and pointless buzzword. Well here's the new man utd coach to help me out!

 

"We know that we need time, but we have to win time,” Amorim told United’s club media. “To win time is to win games. But the most important thing for me is identity. So since day one we will start with our identity. How to play, how to press, these small things, small details. You cannot go 100% on every detail because it will be confusing for the players. So if I have to say one thing, my main goal, my first goal, is identity.”

 

What an absolute load of unexplained, meaningless shite. 😄

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Samilktray

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46 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

I've moaned a few times about people on here using the word identity as regards football and how it's just an overused and pointless buzzword. Well here's the new man utd coach to help me out!

 

"We know that we need time, but we have to win time,” Amorim told United’s club media. “To win time is to win games. But the most important thing for me is identity. So since day one we will start with our identity. How to play, how to press, these small things, small details. You cannot go 100% on every detail because it will be confusing for the players. So if I have to say one thing, my main goal, my first goal, is identity.”

 

What an absolute load of unexplained, meaningless shite. 😄

Not really sure what he’s said is that hard to understand or explain tbf fairly straight forward 

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Lambert09

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1 hour ago, Gubbins said:

I've moaned a few times about people on here using the word identity as regards football and how it's just an overused and pointless buzzword. Well here's the new man utd coach to help me out!

 

"We know that we need time, but we have to win time,” Amorim told United’s club media. “To win time is to win games. But the most important thing for me is identity. So since day one we will start with our identity. How to play, how to press, these small things, small details. You cannot go 100% on every detail because it will be confusing for the players. So if I have to say one thing, my main goal, my first goal, is identity.”

 

What an absolute load of unexplained, meaningless shite. 😄

what don’t you get? It’s about players playing the way the manager wants them to, in style and work rate.  

 

You can’t tell the difference between Marescas identity and Rodgers and a great example of no identity at all, is cooper 

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Gubbins

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14 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

what don’t you get? It’s about players playing the way the manager wants them to, in style and work rate.  

 

You can’t tell the difference between Marescas identity and Rodgers and a great example of no identity at all, is cooper

So it's essentially a pretentious way of describing style of play? Slow dull possesion football which was the defining characteristic of maresca and later years Rodgers needs to be described as an identity? How come Clough Ferguson or Wenger never prattled on about identity? What's Real Madrids identity? What's Fulhams? As far as I'm concerned it's a meaningless buzzword. If David Brent was a football manager he'd be all over it! 

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Lambert09

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2 hours ago, Gubbins said:

So it's essentially a pretentious way of describing style of play? Slow dull possesion football which was the defining characteristic of maresca and later years Rodgers needs to be described as an identity? How come Clough Ferguson or Wenger never prattled on about identity? What's Real Madrids identity? What's Fulhams? As far as I'm concerned it's a meaningless buzzword. If David Brent was a football manager he'd be all over it! 

Well its basically when a team is obviously designed to play a certain way and naturally that can take time for players to adapt to.  Most teams you would say have an identity and its clear they have a way that they try to play in most games.  Fulham absolutely have one, its a bizzare team to look to as an example. You can spot a silva team very easily. 

 

The reason we dont have one is because at the moment theres nothing consistant about us. Are we trying to play possession, counter attack gegenpress, I have no idea. We seem to just do whatever feels right in the moment... or as a the tacticians call it 'haventgotaclooo" 

 

2 hours ago, JimJams said:

Erm, it's literally just used as a singular word to describe a "style of play" which all managers have subscribed to for as long as you care to reminisce.

exactly

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Bourbon Fox

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On 13/11/2024 at 19:30, Super_horns said:

New video leaked of Coote snorting a line of coke in a UEFA paid for hotel a day after a game at the Euros apparently!

 

This probably is the end of him .

 

 

Hadn't seen this video yet.

 

That looks to be a US Dollar note of some denomination.

 

Which given that he was in the Eurozone (assuming the provenance of the video is correct) and lives in England would suggest that perhaps this bellend has a special 'coke note' that he keeps in his wallet 

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PhillippaT

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42 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Which given that he was in the Eurozone (assuming the provenance of the video is correct) and lives in England would suggest that perhaps this bellend has a special 'coke note' that he keeps in his wallet 

Well, who doesn't? :P :ph34r: /s

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Mickyblueeyes

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8 hours ago, Gubbins said:

So it's essentially a pretentious way of describing style of play? Slow dull possesion football which was the defining characteristic of maresca and later years Rodgers needs to be described as an identity? How come Clough Ferguson or Wenger never prattled on about identity? What's Real Madrids identity? What's Fulhams? As far as I'm concerned it's a meaningless buzzword. If David Brent was a football manager he'd be all over it! 

Nearly every successful manager has had an identity they live and die by. All three of those brought an “identity” to their clubs. 
 

Clough collapsed at Leeds because he ridiculed their success under Revie and turned the entire dressing room against him. His famous quote about god making grass to play football. He instilled an identity at both Derby and Forest.

 

Ferguson revamped the entire youth system at Man U. It’s brought them years of success and continues to benefit the club today. Youth is very much a part of Man U and progress. He was very vocal and stood by it for years at United. 
 

As for Wenger, here’s one of his famous quotes: 

 

“I believe that despite all the money a club is about identity. Identity is about values and values have been carried through the generations through somebody. Is it the chairman, is it the manager, is it some players who stay for a long period at the club? I hope it will always be the case. It’s not only about spending money or sacking the manager.“

 

Every football club needs some sort of identity in which the whole club is invested in. Very rarely do you get success without it. This is us, this how we play, this how we will success. Man U currently don’t have one. And, on that note, neither do we. It doesn’t always mean tiki taka football. Now that identity can change with different managers but I actually think he has hit the nail on head as to what Man U first need to do.  

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Bourbon Fox

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40 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Nearly every successful manager has had an identity they live and die by. All three of those brought an “identity” to their clubs. 
 

Clough collapsed at Leeds because he ridiculed their success under Revie and turned the entire dressing room against him. His famous quote about god making grass to play football. He instilled an identity at both Derby and Forest.

 

Ferguson revamped the entire youth system at Man U. It’s brought them years of success and continues to benefit the club today. Youth is very much a part of Man U and progress. He was very vocal and stood by it for years at United. 
 

As for Wenger, here’s one of his famous quotes: 

 

“I believe that despite all the money a club is about identity. Identity is about values and values have been carried through the generations through somebody. Is it the chairman, is it the manager, is it some players who stay for a long period at the club? I hope it will always be the case. It’s not only about spending money or sacking the manager.“

 

Every football club needs some sort of identity in which the whole club is invested in. Very rarely do you get success without it. This is us, this how we play, this how we will success. Man U currently don’t have one. And, on that note, neither do we. It doesn’t always mean tiki taka football. Now that identity can change with different managers but I actually think he has hit the nail on head as to what Man U first need to do.  

Identity is something that elite organisations in any industry absolutely value, it's really important

CPepFox

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8 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Hadn't seen this video yet.

 

That looks to be a US Dollar note of some denomination.

 

Which given that he was in the Eurozone (assuming the provenance of the video is correct) and lives in England would suggest that perhaps this bellend has a special 'coke note' that he keeps in his wallet 

It is a U.S. note... Guessing $20 or above... probably $100 but cannot get close depiction... 

Gubbins

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1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Nearly every successful manager has had an identity they live and die by. All three of those brought an “identity” to their clubs. 
 

Clough collapsed at Leeds because he ridiculed their success under Revie and turned the entire dressing room against him. His famous quote about god making grass to play football. He instilled an identity at both Derby and Forest.

 

Ferguson revamped the entire youth system at Man U. It’s brought them years of success and continues to benefit the club today. Youth is very much a part of Man U and progress. He was very vocal and stood by it for years at United. 
 

As for Wenger, here’s one of his famous quotes: 

 

“I believe that despite all the money a club is about identity. Identity is about values and values have been carried through the generations through somebody. Is it the chairman, is it the manager, is it some players who stay for a long period at the club? I hope it will always be the case. It’s not only about spending money or sacking the manager.“

 

Every football club needs some sort of identity in which the whole club is invested in. Very rarely do you get success without it. This is us, this how we play, this how we will success. Man U currently don’t have one. And, on that note, neither do we. It doesn’t always mean tiki taka football. Now that identity can change with different managers but I actually think he has hit the nail on head as to what Man U first need to do.  

 

49 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Identity is something that elite organisations in any industry absolutely value, it's really important

Maybe it's partly a semantics thing. I can totally buy managers or owners creating a certain 'culture' in a club (or organisation) or needing to change a bad one. Man utds 90s/00s youth set up and iron fisted rule by ferguson was for me a culture thing. in my original post if Amorim had talked about changing the current terrible culture at man utd then fair enough but he doesn't he talks about identity this grandiose term meant to encapusulate the whole club without explaining what it is or how he's going to create it. It's a bit like that scene in wolf of wall street where mconaughey explains the stock market to Dicaprio 'it's not f**king real!' This modern idea of identity in football is a fugazi!

Gubbins

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5 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 

As for Wenger, here’s one of his famous quotes: 

 

“I believe that despite all the money a club is about identity. Identity is about values and values have been carried through the generations through somebody. Is it the chairman, is it the manager, is it some players who stay for a long period at the club? I hope it will always be the case. It’s not only about spending money or sacking the manager.“

 

I don't know when he said this but I have to imagine it was post arsenal when he was working for UEFA as it really is business meeting level waffle. Seriously replace the word club with company, add a punchline at the end and you've got a legitimate David Brent quote.

And even here the word identity is meaningless. You take it out of the quote and he's saying exactly the same thing. You lose nothing. Again it's a buzzword.

RedSoxUK

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20 hours ago, Gubbins said:

I've moaned a few times about people on here using the word identity as regards football and how it's just an overused and pointless buzzword. Well here's the new man utd coach to help me out!

 

"We know that we need time, but we have to win time,” Amorim told United’s club media. “To win time is to win games. But the most important thing for me is identity. So since day one we will start with our identity. How to play, how to press, these small things, small details. You cannot go 100% on every detail because it will be confusing for the players. So if I have to say one thing, my main goal, my first goal, is identity.”

 

What an absolute load of unexplained, meaningless shite. 😄

Pretty obvious what he's saying really... "How to play, how to press, these small things, small details."

I agree with you it's overused publicly, though think the managers just want to get all players on the same page. We know from Enzo's system here that all 11 players needed to stick to the script. I can't imagine how much time he actually spent on shape, short passing, and playing out from the back with us.

 

Seen this over the weekend which shows these little details clearer: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/8Ve3AZ7BX9

 

 

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