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Premier League 2024/25

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Bert

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Ipswich also set up as 5-4-1. We didn’t. Their gameplan was quite clearly to frustrate and nick a point. 

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Weller Wing

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Ipswich also set up as 5-4-1. We didn’t. Their gameplan was quite clearly to frustrate and nick a point. 

Wish we'd done that at Brentford, Newcastle etc.

Everton stay up most years with plenty of hard fought away draws , frustrating opposition and sneaking wins as well.

 

They're usually crap most seasons but find a way to get enough points every year

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funkyrobot

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10 minutes ago, Bert said:

Chelsea were terrible on the eye 04/05. But won the league and only conceded 15 goals. Won most of their games 1-0. 
 

You think Buonanotte doesn’t get in at Ipswich? Soumare on current form pisses all over Morsy. The only player I’d have from them is Leif Davis. 

Are you seriously comparing a successful Chelsea 04/05 to 24/25 relegation threatened Leicester? Come on Bert that’s stretching it a bit and it was 20 years ago!  Hutchinson as a winger not ahead of Ayew? McAteer? Clarke runs Mavididi close and he’s their sub. Not sure Soumare would walk into their midfield and I don’t dislike Bouba btw but he’s got some serious flaws. Cajuste and Morsy back up Phillips are no less effective and both are miles ahead of Skipp. Buonanotte may well get into the Ipswich side, but perhaps that’s more to do with the tactical nous of McKenna finding a role for a technical footballer like Facundo. 

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Muzzy_no7

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Ipswich and Southampton have been more garbage than us.

 

Southampton should now get organised and pick up some points here and there under Juric. 
 

Cooper was extremely lucky with us, we’ve improved overall under Ruud and should get better with the right additions in Jan.

 

We need to pull Everton and Palace into it. 

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funkyrobot

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15 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Same.people bigging up Ipswich would be moaning like mad if we had 3 shot, none on target and a xg of 0.22.

We only had two more shots than Ipswich against Arsenal but we conceded 35 chances, 16 of those were on target. That’s a battering. Ipswich gave them 13 chances, only 5 of those were on target.  We faced 17 corners, Ipswich faced 5. Against Arsenal we had an XG of 0.32 and Arsenal’s XG was a massive 4.6. Against Ipswich their XG was 1.94. 

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coolhandfox

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11 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

We only had two more shots than Ipswich against Arsenal but we conceded 35 chances, 16 of those were on target. That’s a battering. Ipswich gave them 13 chances, only 5 of those were on target.  We faced 17 corners, Ipswich faced 5. Against Arsenal we had an XG of 0.32 and Arsenal’s XG was a massive 4.6. Against Ipswich their XG was 1.94. 

I'm not saying we were good, I'm merely point Ipswich weren't ether.

 

Arsenal also without Saka are a different prospect to when they have him.

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funkyrobot

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I'm not saying we were good, I'm merely point Ipswich weren't ether.

 

Arsenal also without Saka are a different prospect to when they have him.

You threw stats at me so I just gave you the stats back and they paint a rightly bleak picture of our performance there. We were very lucky to only lose by two injury time goals. 
 

Ipswich weren’t battered tonight and they set up just as we did yesterday against Liverpool, the difference was they looked in the game and didn’t accept defeat like we did in the 2nd half yesterday and like we did in the 2nd half against Wolves

 

BTW, I’m no fan of Ipswich, I don’t like Ed Sheeran to put it mildly. I was happily chanting Jordan Ayew Ole Ole at Portman Road and as we left their stadium after the last minute equaliser. But if we are all being honest here, not a happy clapper or the opposite constantly negative fan - just a LCFC fan with some realism about where we are at - until Phillips was sent off they were the better team. 

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jayfox26

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37 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Ipswich and Southampton have been more garbage than us.

 

Southampton should now get organised and pick up some points here and there under Juric. 
 

Cooper was extremely lucky with us, we’ve improved overall under Ruud and should get better with the right additions in Jan.

 

We need to pull Everton and Palace into it. 

In what way would you say we've improved under Ruud? Whilst I'm willing to give him time, I don't really see any improvements at all. We still concede way too many chances, give away easy goals and don't create an awful lot. The Newcastle and Liverpool games can be forgiven but the Wolves game was an abomination that I honestly don't think we'd have seen under Cooper. 

 

I didn't like Cooper and agreed with his sacking but so far I've seen little to no improvement under Ruud. 

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Muzzy_no7

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7 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

In what way would you say we've improved under Ruud? Whilst I'm willing to give him time, I don't really see any improvements at all. We still concede way too many chances, give away easy goals and don't create an awful lot. The Newcastle and Liverpool games can be forgiven but the Wolves game was an abomination that I honestly don't think we'd have seen under Cooper. 

 

I didn't like Cooper and agreed with his sacking but so far I've seen little to no improvement under Ruud. 

The top 2 performances in terms of XG have both been under Ruud.

 

The only game this season where we created more and better chances than our opponent was under Ruud.

 

With Mads in goal we would not have lost against Wolves. No doubt in my mind. 
 

Hes dropped Faes. Crucial.

 

El-Khannous is improving.

 

All while being without Ricardo and Fatawu as well as the Winks and Mads injuries.

 

Oh and Ndidi’s suspension.

 

Oh and he had no say on shaping this squad yet he has performed better than Pooper and his staff did.

 

And he’s got a tune out of Bobby.
 

 

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jayfox26

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2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

The top 2 performances in terms of XG have both been under Ruud.

 

The only game this season where we created more and better chances than our opponent was under Ruud.

 

With Mads in goal we would not have lost against Wolves. No doubt in my mind. 
 

Hes dropped Faes. Crucial.

 

El-Khannous is improving.

 

All while being without Ricardo and Fatawu as well as the Winks and Mads injuries.

 

Oh and Ndidi’s suspension.

 

Oh and he had no say on shaping this squad yet he has performed better than Pooper and his staff did.

 

And he’s got a tune out of Bobby.
 

 

Agree with some of your points and I suppose a lot of our issues aren't easily fixable, especially given the players we have available. Picking Ward was a terrible error of judgement and whilst the Mads injury was unfortunate, playing either Iversen or Stolarczyk against Wolves could have lead to a different outcome. It was a huge game at a crucial time and has given Wolves confidence whilst done the complete opposite for us. Had we won that, or even drawn it, we'd be in a much better position with more confidence and a little less pressure. Crazy that one selection decision ultimately decided a huge game! 

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46 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

We only had two more shots than Ipswich against Arsenal but we conceded 35 chances, 16 of those were on target. That’s a battering. Ipswich gave them 13 chances, only 5 of those were on target.  We faced 17 corners, Ipswich faced 5. Against Arsenal we had an XG of 0.32 and Arsenal’s XG was a massive 4.6. Against Ipswich their XG was 1.94. 

You're ignoring the reason Arsenal had so many chances and shots against us though: because we'd got it back to 2-2. They didn't need to keep banging down the door tonight because they were coasting in a busy fixture period with injuries. They needed to throw the kitchen sink at us because the game was level late on.

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funkyrobot

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6 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

You're ignoring the reason Arsenal had so many chances and shots against us though: because we'd got it back to 2-2. They didn't need to keep banging down the door tonight because they were coasting in a busy fixture period with injuries. They needed to throw the kitchen sink at us because the game was level late on.

Yeh I get your point and they battered us even more in the 2nd half but they still utterly dominated the first half too when we hadn’t scored. They were 2-0 up whilst had an XG of 0.07 with 1 shot off target.

FrankieADZ

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1 hour ago, funkyrobot said:

We attempted 2 more shots. Wow. We also gave Arsenal 35 chances compared to the 13 that Ipswich gave them tonight. It’s great being positive but let’s base that on reality and not faded memories of what was a 90 minute battering. 

and we scored two, they had nothing on target all game,

as said in the thread they set up to try and nick a point, they had what 7 defensive minded players on the pitch too

oh and also as state as well they got loads in the second half cos we got it back to 2-2, not to mention they actually had shots, compared to tonight where they either wanted to walk it in or score the perfect goal

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Lionator

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Who do people say ‘Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton’ are all terrible like we have an active choice in the matter. Maybe there is more to it beyond the individual teams such as a terrible league aystem. 

FrankieADZ

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1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

In what way would you say we've improved under Ruud? Whilst I'm willing to give him time, I don't really see any improvements at all. We still concede way too many chances, give away easy goals and don't create an awful lot. The Newcastle and Liverpool games can be forgiven but the Wolves game was an abomination that I honestly don't think we'd have seen under Cooper. 

 

I didn't like Cooper and agreed with his sacking but so far I've seen little to no improvement under Ruud. 

yeah and as I keep saying Brentford have had more shots against them than us this season, so a stat like that aint always the best one to hang your hat on

funkyrobot

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10 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

yeah and as I keep saying Brentford have had more shots against them than us this season, so a stat like that aint always the best one to hang your hat on

The difference is Brentford are 10th in the overall stats  for shots on target with 86 compared to us in 18th with 57. Overall we’ve had the fewest combined on and off target shots at goal in the whole league by a considerable margin. We are 20th with 159 shots followed by Southampton in 19th on 172! 
 

We concede lots of chances and create very few of our own. 

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CosbehFox

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2 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

We only had two more shots than Ipswich against Arsenal but we conceded 35 chances, 16 of those were on target. That’s a battering. Ipswich gave them 13 chances, only 5 of those were on target.  We faced 17 corners, Ipswich faced 5. Against Arsenal we had an XG of 0.32 and Arsenal’s XG was a massive 4.6. Against Ipswich their XG was 1.94. 

Good example of xG without context. Arsenal made 4.6 cos they were 2-2 with minutes to play. At 1-0, Arsenal can play at a certain pace to their own preference 

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LCFCCKEANO

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Maybe Ipswich look better on the eye to some due to the dim view we have all de used to have this year… their fans certainly don’t think so and a large amount we saying similar about us under cooper… we have had some terrible injury luck and that wolves game was almost entirely dog goalkeeping, we may go down, and we are newly relegated. Did anyone expect better? Most of us were worried about the Derby record this year during the summer and it’s not that bad, truly believe we will run it close this year. You’d think some of our lot were top 4 fans the way we go on after losing away at Liverpool/Newcastle, Isak/Gakpo are worth more than our squad 

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