Sunbury Fox Posted 3 October 2024 Posted 3 October 2024 2 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: Leicester have taken the joint-fewest shots per game in the Premier League this season, while also conceding a league-high 19.3 shots on average. Their expected goals (xG) is 5.38 is also the lowest of all top-flight teams, suggesting even their relative attacking underperformance has still been technical overperformance. These are the facts. Truly horrific stuff. At this rate once things revert to the mean, we could be on the end of some real hammerings. 1
Lionator Posted 3 October 2024 Posted 3 October 2024 3 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: I'm not even sure he tries to break down teams! Look at our expected goal threat, it's one of the worst in the league. In the video there's an example of how Chelsea attack with 5 players, as we did last season. But this season we attack with 4 at most, and sometimes even fewer, there were multiple examples of us attacking with just 3 players going forwards against Arsenal. Bournemouth proved last season that as they started attacking teams more often, they conceded less. Cooper needs to take the handbrake off, but it seems like all the managers that come from the English FA setup all favour defence, multiple England U21 and below managers such as Boothroyd, Southgate and Cooper are all cowards. This should’ve been obvious from the Tottenham game when the only time we didn’t look like conceding is when we pressed them high and got players forward. Cooper noticed that and yet hasn’t done a thing about it? 3
Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 3 October 2024 Popular Post Posted 3 October 2024 2 hours ago, Big_Nige said: Such a sobering stat 2 hours ago, Tielemans63 said: From a reasonable set of opening fixtures, too 2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: We’re conceding an average of 19.3 shots per game? Assuming 10mins of added time per game, that’s a shot against us every five minutes on average. Golly 😳 1 hour ago, foxfan92 said: Playing as negatively as we do will not only limit the number of chances we create, but invite more pressure on ourselves so these both go hand in hand given our style of play, and doesn't exude a winning mentality. We either change this way of playing or get used to losing or scraping draws... pretty much as we have done so far, and get relegated at the end of the season. The terrifiying thing is that despite playing defensively / pragmatically, it's actually making us WORSE as a team. For all of the hate that Enzo's system got from some fans last season, it was smart to practice that style ahead of the Premier League. Except in classic Leicester City fashion, we have abandoned his style that involved playing through the press and attacking with 5 when we were on transition as soon as we got there! Maresca's more aggressive press and attacking with more threats meant we pinned teams back and had a good defence because of that. Would his style work against Arsenal? No, we would probably have lost that one too, but there's a reason why he took a Chelsea team who looked all over the place during the summer and got them looking good already. His Chelsea team aren't able to control games yet, but look at their threat on transition, it's deadly. The absolutely bonkers thing here is that all Cooper had to do was... nothing. He could have kept the same style and adapted it later. Would it have been as smooth as Maresca's style, no probably not. But if he truly did watch all of the games last season, you would spot between 5-10 attacking patterns of play that we used over and over again. Very few of these remain this season, whereas if you see Chelsea play, they are making those same moves multiple times a game already. If we got to 5-10 games in and we had looked too open playing the old style and he adapted it, fans would have been onside. But he's a coward. The guy is literally sacking himself in front of our eyes. A manager that does not play Fatawu and Ricardo and plays Jordan Ayew and Viktor Kristiansen ahead of those two is as stupid as that statement sounds. 18
GingerrrFox Posted 3 October 2024 Posted 3 October 2024 Hermansen JJ Okoli Vestergaard Kristiansen Winks Pereira Fatawu Ndidi Mavididi Vardy I would play this against Bournemouth and encourage them to keep the ball, be aggressive when it opens up and get back to enjoying it. 2
Bourbon Fox Posted 3 October 2024 Posted 3 October 2024 1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said: The terrifiying thing is that despite playing defensively / pragmatically, it's actually making us WORSE as a team. For all of the hate that Enzo's system got from some fans last season, it was smart to practice that style ahead of the Premier League. Except in classic Leicester City fashion, we have abandoned his style that involved playing through the press and attacking with 5 when we were on transition as soon as we got there! Maresca's more aggressive press and attacking with more threats meant we pinned teams back and had a good defence because of that. Would his style work against Arsenal? No, we would probably have lost that one too, but there's a reason why he took a Chelsea team who looked all over the place during the summer and got them looking good already. His Chelsea team aren't able to control games yet, but look at their threat on transition, it's deadly. The absolutely bonkers thing here is that all Cooper had to do was... nothing. He could have kept the same style and adapted it later. Would it have been as smooth as Maresca's style, no probably not. But if he truly did watch all of the games last season, you would spot between 5-10 attacking patterns of play that we used over and over again. Very few of these remain this season, whereas if you see Chelsea play, they are making those same moves multiple times a game already. If we got to 5-10 games in and we had looked too open playing the old style and he adapted it, fans would have been onside. But he's a coward. The guy is literally sacking himself in front of our eyes. A manager that does not play Fatawu and Ricardo and plays Jordan Ayew and Viktor Kristiansen ahead of those two is as stupid as that statement sounds. Yes but what do you really think of Cooper?! 2
KFS Posted 3 October 2024 Posted 3 October 2024 What’s our win ratio in games where JJ plays left and Ricardo plays right? Always hated this crap of playing a right footer as LFB. IMO it is a massive reason we bottled top four and got relegated
lcfcbluearmy Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 I'd go: Hermansen Ricardo Vestergaard Feas VK Skip. Winks Fatawu. Buonanotte. Mavididi Vardy 4
lcfcbluearmy Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 1 minute ago, lcfcbluearmy said: I'd go: Hermansen Ricardo Vestergaard Feas VK Skip. Winks Fatawu. Buonanotte. Mavididi Vardy Bench of: Iverson, okoli, JJ, ndidi, ayew, El Khannouss, alves, edouard, DCR
LFEFox23 Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 Any thought we could be better changing the formation up? Mads Faes Vestergaard Okoli Ricardo Justin Skipp Bounatte Ndidi Vardy Mavididi 1
Vazman Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 6 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said: I'd go: Hermansen Ricardo Vestergaard Feas VK Skip. Winks Fatawu. Buonanotte. Mavididi Vardy Based on what we seen so Far: Ricardo- wont get in Fatawu and Mavididi on at the same time, wont happen, Vesty wont get a sniff, Skipp not sure, I suspect not. Like your proposed line up. Expect a Bore draw or a loss in the last 10 mins. 1
Richmondfox Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 7 hours ago, KFS said: What’s our win ratio in games where JJ plays left and Ricardo plays right? Always hated this crap of playing a right footer as LFB. IMO it is a massive reason we bottled top four and got relegated He is even more negative on the left, I would prefer him to be dropped for a while. My memories of him for the last few seasons at LB are calling for the ball, doesn’t look forward, instant pass back then apologise to Barnes/Mav for not looking at them open and unmarked.
deep blue Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 18 hours ago, Electric Yetis said: Not quite right. On a personal note completely unrelated to this thread --good to see another ex-Yeti alive and kicking
lcfcbluearmy Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 1 hour ago, Vazman said: Based on what we seen so Far: Ricardo- wont get in Fatawu and Mavididi on at the same time, wont happen, Vesty wont get a sniff, Skipp not sure, I suspect not. Like your proposed line up. Expect a Bore draw or a loss in the last 10 mins. Oh yes no I agree thos is very much what I'd do rather than what I expect to happen
MrSpaM Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 (edited) Is anybody else's google wallet app showing the Everton ticket still? Mine doesn't seem to have updated since that game Edited 4 October 2024 by MrSpaM
SafewayFox Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 19 hours ago, moore_94 said: Steve Cooper Pre-Match Press Conference vs Bournemouth Glass half full? “There’s nothing beneficial from being negative. We have to take responsibility for the league position we’re in but we have to believe in what we’re doing and keep hold of the positives while also improving. In a period that could be classed as a tough time, you have to be positive. In football, and at Premier League level, there is always an opportunity, and it’s to get our first win, get some results and climb up the table. I see a really good desire from the guys and in the right way, a desperation to get that win and kick on.” First win focus? “We need a result. That’s where your narratives are written. Results dictate so many things. We have to look at the performance, but in the end, it’s about getting a team playing well enough to win games. It’s not just because it’s the international break. We want it anyway. I’m desperate for our supporters to see the team win and play well in the process.” You're scoring. Need improvements at the other end? “Clearly. We’ve been good for a goal or two in a game and we’ve got to keep that going. But we have to be stronger at the back and not fall into a low block as quickly as we have in games. If we do, we have to stop opponents creating chances.” Big month of games? “I wouldn’t say we’re dressing it up like that, because we’re one game at a time. We’re focused on Bournemouth. Mentality is key and focus and belief and getting a job done, that’s a big part of our work this week. I really hope we can deliver that for us and the supporters.” Sometimes one step back for two steps forward? “It’s not something you can talk about or is accepted. But the result is important. Understandably, people focus on the result. I get that. We’re very much trying to become a Premier League team again. We have to make sure we deliver a Premier League performance. That’s what we’re trying to become. Some bits have been really good. Some bits we need to get better at. That’s the challenge of coaching. There’s nothing better than coming through a difficult time. When you do, you’re in a much better place because of the lessons you learn. When you get through it, it gets better in the mid and long-term. What an opportunity we have to get through this little spell.” Bournemouth? “They have dangerous players at the top end and a clear way of playing. They’ve had good spells where they’ve picked up good results. We’re aware of the impact we can have on the game and that’s how we win a game. We’re ready for an energetic Bournemouth team.” Criticism? “I don’t hide away from it and I make sure I’m more visible and more vocal than when things are going well. That’s the role of a leader and a manager. Criticism is a motivation. Some days you get a lot of criticism, I take it as it comes. I really believe in my work and definitely believe in my players.” Injuries? “Hamza dislocated his shoulder in training yesterday, It was innocuous. It’s settling down and we’re trying to work out how long. It could be weeks or months. Jannik has started training fully today. He’s back today. Some players have had kicks and they’ve not trained yet. With Hamza, it was just a normal challenge.” Bournemouth took 10 games to win last season and finished 12th. Hope for you? “Unless you’re finishing eighth or higher, you’re going to go through a tough spell. I hope ours is coming to an end. Nobody likes it, but it’s a matter of fact where you go through periods where you’d like more points. There’s no point looking back. We have to look forward. We can get to a better place and that’s our drive.” How to get a 90-min performance? “Respectfully, I’ve been asked that question every week. It’s first of all going through that cycle of what’s not gone well and how we improve, and what has gone well. Until we get that win and that performance that deserves the win, it’s going to become a constant question. We’re really backing the players and encouraging them to back themselves and each other, that’s really important.” McAteer? “We really like Kasey and that contradicts some of the decision making and that’s maybe a story of the numbers in the squad. We like how he applies himself to training, he gives his all. The lad has some strong attributes to help him have a good career. There’s no doubt about that. Any positive experience, whether with us or Ireland, will be good. That’s what they need, experience. I really hope we can provide him with the right opportunity.” Message to fans? “We want them to continue to get behind the team. I don’t worry too much about myself. I never think about what it means for me. I’m not about my own brand. I’m for the club I work for and that’s the players and supporters. Any criticism has come towards me and not the players, and that’s how I’d prefer it. The atmosphere in the second half against Everton pulled us through to get something out of the game. I look at how they were involved against Aston Villa as well. I saw how the players responded to that. I’m desperate for fans to see a result at the King Power so they can enjoy the rest of their weekend. I want the lads to produce a performance that the crowd can get behind.” Are players' heads down? “We’re not heads down and we’re not of the mindset that we’ll be alright either. Both of those mindsets are dangerous. We’re in the middle of that, where we’re frustrated that we haven’t been able to get more out of the games, but there’s a constant determination to put things right. We have to make sure the mindset is right with the players. I really believe that will happen, convinced of it, that we will get what we want from this season.” No points deduction? “The landscape has definitely changed on that front. Even when that was looming over us, it wasn’t interfering with our daily work either. What we want to achieve, as we decided on, it’s still very much achievable. When we achieve it, we will look back and say it was a rocky road.” Okoli? “He’s a young player coming from a completely different country and it's always a transition. I believe he’s still going through that. He’s got an unbelievable attitude. He’s so about the team. He doesn’t get too hard on himself when he makes mistakes. He shows great bravery. He’s got a massive desire to defend. In terms of an asset for the club, with the age he’s at, he’s got huge potential. He’s great to work with. He’s bought into the club. He has to make sure he works hard to stay on the right path.” Listening to it on WYS. His comments about being a Premier League team not a Premier League club irk me so much. He says about being positive yet makes those comments. I can’t stand the guy. 1 1
filbertway Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SafewayFox said: Listening to it on WYS. His comments about being a Premier League team not a Premier League club irk me so much. He says about being positive yet makes those comments. I can’t stand the guy. He seems to have a massive inferiority complex, it shows in his comments, "tactics" and team selections. Not an ideal quality in any manager if you want to progress. Edited 4 October 2024 by filbertway 4
jim5000 Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 13 minutes ago, SafewayFox said: Listening to it on WYS. His comments about being a Premier League team not a Premier League club irk me so much. He says about being positive yet makes those comments. I can’t stand the guy. Yep, I couldn’t believe it when I read that. “We’re trying to be a Premier League team”. No Steve, we are a Premier League team, quite literally. He is undermining everything. 1
Popular Post whoareyaaa Posted 4 October 2024 Popular Post Posted 4 October 2024 1 minute ago, Wymsey said: Reckon a pleasant surprise.. Sacked by 5pm ? 1 6
Chelmofox Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 2 hours ago, Vazman said: Based on what we seen so Far: Ricardo- wont get in Fatawu and Mavididi on at the same time, wont happen, Vesty wont get a sniff, Skipp not sure, I suspect not. Like your proposed line up. Expect a Bore draw or a loss in the last 10 mins. Agree. No point of even dreaming about Riccy until JJ is crocked. Again, no chance he plays 2 attacking wingers at the same time. One will have to be Ayew or Bobby. Because Mavi is playing well that means that Abdul will be benched. Ridiculous but true. I presume Ndidi get the nod over Skipp, so unless he plays the dynamic threesome (Winks, Skipp and Ndidi), Skipp is benched. I will basically spend the whole game dreaming how we would be performing if we played the following: Hermansen Ricardo Okoli Faes VK Skip. Winks Fatawu. Buonanotte. Mavididi Vardy 3
Sunbury Fox Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 36 minutes ago, MrSpaM said: Is anybody else's google wallet app showing the Everton ticket still? Mine doesn't seem to have updated since that game Same. Going to be chaos at the turnstiles tomorrow if this isn't sorted.
Sunbury Fox Posted 4 October 2024 Posted 4 October 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said: Truly horrific stuff. At this rate once things revert to the mean, we could be on the end of some real hammerings. Deleted as I replied to the wrong message. Edited 4 October 2024 by Sunbury Fox
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