Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Fox85]

1 hour ago, Happy Fox said:

If we sack him now and bring in an experienced manager at this level aka Rafa I reckon we stay up just by the skin of our teeth. But it’s clear to all to see the board yet again have reared their ugly head and untill these charlatans in the boardroom depart we will remain in a perilous position.

Nah.

 

Pep or Artetta or Ancollotti or conte, or any top class manager couldn't keep this team up.

 

The recruitment has been that bad we have got a worse team than in the championship last season. Mainly due to injuries as well.

 

It's not the manager it's the recruitment 

[Dahnsouff]

6 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

3 games without a goal or assist before he scored against Brentford, prior to that 2 goals and an assist in his previous 3.

Him off the boil is still better that what others have produced 

To be honest, at this point we may as well try. Although I am unconvinced by Facundo as I feel he loses the ball too much, at this point it hardly matters.

[wardyfox86]

1 hour ago, Happy Fox said:

If we sack him now and bring in an experienced manager at this level aka Rafa I reckon we stay up just by the skin of our teeth. But it’s clear to all to see the board yet again have reared their ugly head and untill these charlatans in the boardroom depart we will remain in a perilous position.

Who we gonna drag into it? Wolves??

 

No chance, they have the entirety of the bottom half of the League coming up, the bottom 3 are set. The 3 that come up will also be woefully short, the league is becoming a 17 team closed shop with some wildcards.

[LCFCJohn]

10 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Every day that passes that we don't announce Danny Rohl makes me wish Claude Puel would come back and rebuild us 

Rohl is my first choice. If not, look at the job Wellens is doing at Orient. 
 

Both doing their time in the EFL and are working within tight budgets and in Rohl’s case, a mad and incompetent owner. 
 

Rohl obviously already doing a great job in the Championship whereas like with anyone, the risk with Wellens would be a step up. But sometimes it just doesn’t work for a manager at a club so there’s always a risk like when it didn’t work for Howe at Burnley. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

I don’t think he has done anything of note to say we wouldn’t have done X or Y if he wasn’t here. Adds nothing. 
 

Yesterday was typical. 80 minutes and he offered nothing to the side in terms of management. 
 

You could see some players tiring at 65 minutes. He has no idea how to switch formations, be pro active. 
 

The thing is you expect him to get somethings right and somethings wrong but he is usually wrong. 
 

With him here, we are simply going through the motions. I think he will end up being a decent coach. But this isn’t a manager. 

[Deeg67]

22 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Rohl is my first choice. If not, look at the job Wellens is doing at Orient. 
 

Both doing their time in the EFL and are working within tight budgets and in Rohl’s case, a mad and incompetent owner. 
 

Rohl obviously already doing a great job in the Championship whereas like with anyone, the risk with Wellens would be a step up. But sometimes it just doesn’t work for a manager at a club so there’s always a risk like when it didn’t work for Howe at Burnley. 

Rohl isn't leaving Wednesday to join a Championship-based Leicester fresh off screwing over their last manager.

[LCFCJohn]

8 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Rohl isn't leaving Wednesday to join a Championship-based Leicester fresh off screwing over their last manager.

I suspect you’re correct. What gives me that bit of hope is that somehow we are still less of a basket case than where he is now. But I’m sure he could get a better off if and when he wants to move on from Sheff Weds.

 

I doubt we’ll get anyone unless they are really unproven or are washed up and in it for the pay off. I’d rather go with the former which is why I have an eye on Wellens and the job he has been doing and would be likely to jump at the step up for the right reasons.

 

We know it’ll be Russell Martin though.

[teblin]

Speaks well, seems like a decent guy but how do you keep your job lose 9 out of 10. 5  defeats and no goals at home.

 

Its not all on him, but playing a front the front 3 he is doing not sure how we score.

 

Would cooper have more points? Maybe but he was the wrong appointment too.

[Pliskin]

One thing I noticed yesterday, was there’s zero conversation with his bench. He either sits in silence or stands on his own. His assistant occasionally pops up, but other than that there’s nothing. It’s just firm evidence that the dressing room is broken. Ruud is just riding this out now, until we’re gone and he can walk away. 
 

We talk about defining seasons, this is the season this club officially slides back into being a nothing club, that will skulk around the lower leagues reminiscent of its past glory. 

[dannythefox]

I never thought I’d be saying this but just get rid and get Dyche in, he’ll be decent in the championship. He’s got the rest of the season to perform a miracle if not be good for us next season.

[Paninistickers]

51 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t think he has done anything of note to say we wouldn’t have done X or Y if he wasn’t here. Adds nothing. 
 

Yesterday was typical. 80 minutes and he offered nothing to the side in terms of management. 
 

You could see some players tiring at 65 minutes. He has no idea how to switch formations, be pro active. 
 

The thing is you expect him to get somethings right and somethings wrong but he is usually wrong. 
 

With him here, we are simply going through the motions. I think he will end up being a decent coach. But this isn’t a manager. 

Every week, I see the usual from three and just think, if only somehow we can bum our way to 65 mins and be in the game, we have the better players off the bench to win this. 

 

Yesterday at 70 mins, the game was there for the taking. Some tactical tweaks to bring on a three combo of Daka, Stephy, Facu, Winks or even Skipp....we could've asked real questions of Arsenal. 

 

 

[The Doctor]

7 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Not been fortunate under RVN no?

already highlighted the 7 points were fortunate 

3 of the points were fortunate, the win v spurs, sure (the determination to rewrite history around the west ham game is weird af), but on the flipside we had the same bit of fortune v Everton at home which Cooper couldn't make use of, because he played a shite lineup and showed no desire to attack a team playing a pensioner winger and a cm as full backs. We would not be in any better position if we'd kept that clown, RvN was a gamble which unfortunately hasn't worked but it was still a better decision than keeping cooper would have been.

[Pliskin]

20 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

I never thought I’d be saying this but just get rid and get Dyche in, he’ll be decent in the championship. He’s got the rest of the season to perform a miracle if not be good for us next season.

I’d get Lee Carsley in personally. Start to focus on the youth. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

11 hours ago, JimJams said:

We didn't have to shop in the bargain basement for Ayew and BDR though. We dropped £20mill on Skipp and later £20mill on Bilal.  We spent money.

Just imagine if we had saved the £20m on Skipp with the thinking that it would be good to strengthen in January and spend that money. I don’t think that’s a benefit of hindsight thing, just good planning. I hate what we’ve become.

[Claudio Fannieri]

It’s a really strange position to be in, as I actually think we got the two appointments the wrong way round, we gave the fire fighter Cooper a summer transfer window and pre season to waste and then hired RVN who is clearly one for building a philosophy the job to come In and

try to turn the tide mid season and by the way give him next to no reinforcements. 
 

Ruud would have been the better appointment in the summer and Cooper the mid season saviour. 
 

In truth do we stick or twist, personally I would like to see Wellens given the job in the summer and for him to oversee a complete rebuild that focuses on utilising  our academy prospects as much as possible. 
 

The conundrum is do we stick with Ruud for now and then change in the summer or do we make a change and make a short term appointment for the rest of the season, given somehow we are still in touching distance of getting out of the bottom 3. If so you are looking at someone like Big Sam or a Dean Smith type appointment on a short term incentivised contract. 
 

I also have a horrible feeling that Russell Martin will be our next manager. 

Edited 16 February by Claudio Fannieri

[JimJams]

30 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’d get Lee Carsley in personally. Start to focus on the youth. 

I get the theory, but just because he's largely managed at youth level doesn't mean he'd be bringing through the young players.  That's what some expected of Cooper and he saddled us with a few pensioners and put experience above all else.

If it's in his remit, is he better than other options?  A manager who has actively chosen youth players over senior players rather than someone who hasn't had that decision to make.

[lcfcsnow]

The squad is a mess of old players and cloggers similar to the end of Micky Adam’s era, at that point we brought in Levein who was told to lower the age of the squad and move on the old players. We need a similar refresh now, preferably without bringing in half the Hearts team.

[coolhandfox]

8 hours ago, Bptiger said:

I would be playing like dog shit , if Reid was getting picked in front of me . We don’t have anyone who can hold the ball up front and we leave are two best ball players on the bench , Rudd for gods sake start picking a attacking side 

People need to stop giving players excuses, Mavididi has been just as poor as BDCR.

 

Same as Vardy has been as poor as Ayew.

 

Too many people give other free passes and scapegoating BDCR and Ayew.

 

Other then Ndidi and Hermansen the whole squad have been poor.

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

One thing I noticed yesterday, was there’s zero conversation with his bench. He either sits in silence or stands on his own. His assistant occasionally pops up, but other than that there’s nothing. It’s just firm evidence that the dressing room is broken. Ruud is just riding this out now, until we’re gone and he can walk away. 
 

We talk about defining seasons, this is the season this club officially slides back into being a nothing club, that will skulk around the lower leagues reminiscent of its past glory. 

Yea it’s a odd one brining in a manager with no staff especially after losing 6 in the summer the club is just run so poorly.

 

we could have brought in Coberan and his team and the transition would have been a lot smoother imo.

 

all went wrong when we decided Cooper was the man to take us forward 

[Tom12345]

On 05/02/2025 at 00:24, Tommy G said:

Unpopular but I think under Cooper we would have more points than we have now had he remained in charge, with a much better GD

I would agree with you.

 

And it is hard to argue against it really. We can’t really do worst than the results under RVN.

[dannythefox]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

I’d get Lee Carsley in personally. Start to focus on the youth. 

Why would you ever have him. That’s just a massive gamble we can’t keep doing that just ends up being a waste of money. 

[coolhandfox]

38 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Yea it’s a odd one brining in a manager with no staff especially after losing 6 in the summer the club is just run so poorly.

 

we could have brought in Coberan and his team and the transition would have been a lot smoother imo.

 

all went wrong when we decided Cooper was the man to take us forward 

Once again we went down the road of chasing Potter for weeks, who was never coming and then panicked and got the cheapest and first man available.

Edited 16 February by coolhandfox

[Gazza M]

5 home games a 0 goals is a sackable offence on its own. We score less and concede more since Cooper left. We also roll over to those around us now where we showed fight and a bit of guts in those matches before.

Dyche now with a remit of bettering Wolves and Ipswich by season end but with the understanding if it doesn't work then we wipe the slate clean for a Championship season next time. 

[The Hitman]

5 hours ago, Dmitry said:

Absolutely not. The football under Cooper was the worst since the Levein era. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t think he has done anything of note to say we wouldn’t have done X or Y if he wasn’t here. Adds nothing. 
 

Yesterday was typical. 80 minutes and he offered nothing to the side in terms of management. 
 

You could see some players tiring at 65 minutes. He has no idea how to switch formations, be pro active. 
 

The thing is you expect him to get somethings right and somethings wrong but he is usually wrong. 
 

With him here, we are simply going through the motions. I think he will end up being a decent coach. But this isn’t a manager. 

Absolutely spot on