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2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Hermansen and Bilal will probably be sold

 

Ward, Iversen, and Vardy to be released

 

Ricardo, Faes, Kristiansen, Soumare, and maybe Okoli and Daka to be sold / loaned

 

GK: Stolarczyk

RB: Justin, Woyo

CB: Vestergaard, Coady, Souttar, Nelson

LB: Thomas

CM: Winks, Skipp, Ndidi, Choudhury

RW: Fatawu, McAteer, Ayew

AM:

LW: Mavididi, Alves, De Cordova-Reid

ST:

So pretty much stuck with the same muck that can’t even do the basics this season.  Hopefully Fatawu can come back strong as we will have zero ability and entertainment after Mads and Bilal are sold. 
 

I’m hoping to never see Soumare, JJ, Ayew, Reid, Faes, Vestagaard, Daka, Hamza and Coady play for us again. 
 

Stolarczyk, Golding, Alves, Nelson, Okoli and Woyo are at least some hope going forward.

 

 

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Before we do start looking forward we really need the board to change. Stale ideas, brings stale results. 

 

We need a talented up and coming DoF to bring a fresh approach. This the time to start the reset (2 years too late) and we rebuild our reputation for bringing talented youth players in and selling on. 

 

With the board we have, it'll just be the same cycle. It needs to be broken, and top has to step up. 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

 

We will lose that PL TV money so will have to cash in on anyone half decent, for a fee worth less than their worth.

 

So keeping Mads and Bilal is a mere pipe dream sadly.

Not necessarily.  I wouldn't be resigned to that.  Some ambitious clubs that are relegated keep their best players.  Villa kept Grealish.  Sheff Utd still have Hamer.  We have Hermansen and Bilal under contract, wages will be adjusted to Championship levels as per likely contract clauses and we will get parachute payments.  We might even be able to sell some of those that we don't want like Faes and Soumare.  

Posted

I would keep Abdul Fatawu and ... there must be another one I want to keep ... Nope, just Abdul Fatawu

 

(Oh ok I would keep Bilal too, he should be good in the Championship)

 

Mads would be on the list if I didn't believe we could make Chelsea pay good money for him

 

But the rest can go

Posted
1 minute ago, beepee1984 said:

I would keep Abdul Fatawu and ... there must be another one I want to keep ... Nope, just Abdul Fatawu

 

(Oh ok I would keep Bilal too, he should be good in the Championship)

 

Mads would be on the list if I didn't believe we could make Chelsea pay good money for him

 

But the rest can go

Stolarcryk? Nelson? Mavididi at that level?

Posted

If we could keep Mads, Bilal, Ndidi and Fatawu and get rid of the rest that would be brilliant. Major reset required from top to bottom. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, murphy said:

Not necessarily.  I wouldn't be resigned to that.  Some ambitious clubs that are relegated keep their best players.  Villa kept Grealish.  Sheff Utd still have Hamer.  We have Hermansen and Bilal under contract, wages will be adjusted to Championship levels as per likely contract clauses and we will get parachute payments.  We might even be able to sell some of those that we don't want like Faes and Soumare.  

Those clubs that you mentioned didn’t have a ridiculous wage bill though.

 

Even after our recent relegation, there is no chance we have the 19th biggest wage bill as our league position suggests.

 

We’re comfortable still paying way over average PL salary on wages.

 

We’ll have to claw that loss of TV money back some way.

Posted
42 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Those clubs that you mentioned didn’t have a ridiculous wage bill though.

 

Even after our recent relegation, there is no chance we have the 19th biggest wage bill as our league position suggests.

 

We’re comfortable still paying way over average PL salary on wages.

 

We’ll have to claw that loss of TV money back some way.

I think there's a good chance Mads and BEK go, just not necessarily inevitable.  I don't think we should be resigned to it, the club should try to keep them.  Our wage bill will be reduced by relegation clauses and I think we will finally get some big earners off the bill this time, including the biggest in Vardy, sadly.

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Not many out of contract and not many going to be attracting interest from anyone else. Mads will go, probably BEK as well, hopefully we aren't stupid enough to give Ward another contract but who knows. Maybe we could find a buyer for Faes, Winks, Soumare and/or Ndidi. I imagine Okoli & Kristiansen will go on loan somewhere - or maybe Okoli permanently if he has a clause in his contract. Can't see anyone who is in a position to pay their wages wanting anyone else.

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Whatever division were in, if we can build the team around El Khannous we're on the right track. 

 

What's more likely to happen is that we sell him and Hermansen for money, stuck with a lot of deadwood and average has beens and then mess up the reinvestment into the squad. 

 

We need to develop a strong spine of the team. All the successful teams have them. 

 

We have two of the parts currently (Mads and Bilal). Okoli could become part of a strong central defence (with the need to replace Faes, Vestergaard and Coady). And we need a dominant, reliable striker. We can't just rely on Vardy to whack out 90mins 3x in a week. It's not possible this season and certainly won't be next. 

 

If we want to be a serious club again we have to get rid of the following at any cost, even if it's at a loss:

 

Ward

Faes

Vestergaard 

Coady 

Skipp

Winks

Ayew

Reid

Daka

Thomas 

Justin

Hamza

McAteer 

 

 

I don't know how that adversely affects the homegrown numbers in the club, if that even matters. But then there comes the involvement of youth (Alves, Braybrooke, Monga, Evans, Nelson...). 

 

Have an actual rebuild of the club. It's worth taking such a risk because we can't rely on any of the above any more. 

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The overhaul is potentially massive and we come back to whether the DofF / Club is up to the task of moving on players we don’t want and replacing them with players we do.

 

Realistically Mads and Bilal will be off.  We will struggle to shift Vestergaard, Ayew and BDR unless they have a release clause.

 

Stolarcyzk, Nelson, Alves, Evans to be key first team players.

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Posted

Stolarcyzk

 

Coulibaly 

Nelson

Souttar

Thomas

 

Winks

Skipp

 

Fatawu

El Khannouss

Mavididi

 

New ST

 

Not a bad first eleven for the championship really. Plus we could sign more when we sell quite a few. Even Ayew, BDR, Vestergaard and Coady who we’d struggle to move on would be decent squad players in the championship.

 

Then add in some of our youngsters like Alves, Braybrooke, Monga, Evans etc we will hopefully do well.

 

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Remaining book values to satisfy PSR this summer of players we may look to move on. 
 


Hermansen - £3.9m

Coady - £2.4m

Souttar - £7.7m

Faes - £5.6m

Okoli - £9.5m

Kristiansen - £6.5m

Winks - £3.5m

Skipp - £16m

Soumaré - £3.4m

Bilal - £13m

Ayew - £2.5m

Daka - £5m


 

A few others, due to new contracts/ coming through the academy, that may move on - Ndidi, Vestergaard, Justin, Ricardo, Hamza, Thomas, McAteer, BDCR presumably all have a book value of £0. So any sale would represent pure profit. 

 

Release - Vardy, Ward & Iversen 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Out 

faes 

vesterguaard 

winks 

soumare 

ndidi 

vardy 

daka 

hamza 

mads 

BEK 

 

 

Who on earth will pay Vesty Daka Winks etc what they earn here?

Posted (edited)

Id keep

 

Stolarczyk 

Hermansen (he'll probably be sold)

Okoli

Souttar (him and Okoli would be solid champ defence) 

Coulibaly (need to see him for a few games first)

Bilal (he'll probably be sold)

Ndidi 

Fatawu

Mavididi (but then look to sell soon as I got to prem again as champ is his level)

 

I'd look to also integrate some youngsters

 

Aluko

Nelson

Braybrooke

Alves

Monga

Evans

 

Rest I would look to move on or sell.

 

Edited by TrickyTrevLeftPeg

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