Next Manager

[MGLCFC]

33 minutes ago, TonyN11 said:

We should just promote someone from our 'boot room' 

The boot

[Foxin_Mad]

Thing is at the moment I think football is so easy, basically if you break the mould away from this tippy tappy pass between the centre back bollox and inject a bit of pace, movement, physicality and intensity, you will do reasonably well.

 

The issue at present is the players are overcoached, managers over thinking 'philosophies' etc

 

2 most important aspects are getting the ball in the oppositions goal and stopping it going in yours, its pretty basic. I couldn't give a **** if we have had 3000 passes or whatever if we lose every week and bore everyone to death. 

 

Its like Enzo used to bang on about finding a solution, the solution is to accept that sometimes you need to adjust your style to beat the opposition.

 

Forest have done well, not because they are particularly good, but because they are different, very solid at the back but don't toss around with it

[Chrysalis]

23 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

If they don’t make the champions league he will be sacked you’d think! I laughed at someone mentioning big ange on here the other day but he looks to be certain to be sacked aswell and where else could he potentially go ?

Its not a step forward, we need to move away from possession based, slow and intricate football.

[Pita]

18 hours ago, lfu said:

gonna take a guess and say he'll leave Chelsea by mutual consent after the final game and then be announced as Sevilla's new manager 24 hours later

No his style of play is boring 

[cruzFOX]

There is nothing wrong with the tikky takka style of football if it’s played the right way efficiently. Peak Barca was a joy to watch because there was a method behind it and was always progressive ie move the ball forward. The had high level players that could pull the opposition all over the place while staying in complete control and shape themselves. 
 

Inferior teams copying this style look horrible and suffer. It’s just not for everyone.

now if you look at Barca today they have actually evolved their playing style which says a lot. They are a lot more direct now.

[BlueApple]

I know this is about the manager but surely whilst Dan Ashworth is out of work, that should be our number 1 target. 

 

Clearly wouldn't come cheap but our problems run deeper than just the manager.

 

I'll throw Alan Sheehan out there for a wildcard shout, he's done an great job as interim for Swansea and an ex player.

[teblin]

3 minutes ago, BlueApple said:

I know this is about the manager but surely whilst Dan Ashworth is out of work, that should be our number 1 target. 

 

Clearly wouldn't come cheap but our problems run deeper than just the manager.

 

I'll throw Alan Sheehan out there for a wildcard shout, he's done a great job as interim for Swansea and an ex player.

Alan Sheehan, there’s a name we used to hear a lot on this forum.

[LVFox]

Kjetil Knutsen

[Lambert09]

I still like Liam Manning 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

4 hours ago, LVFox said:

Kjetil Knutsen

The thing with him is he isn't interested in going to a big club. He didn't want to go to Celtic or Ajax when they were interested. 

Maybe he doesn't want to go overseas 🤷🏽

[mod hero]

4 hours ago, LVFox said:

Kjetil Knutsen

Buster

[RedSoxUK]

It's Russell Martin

[gurru991]

On 11/04/2025 at 03:50, teblin said:

Can't shake the idea it will be Martin. Not saying I want him to be manager but it feels inevitable.

It's a terrifying thought. His style of football is a disaster waiting to happen.

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, gurru991 said:

It's a terrifying thought. His style of football is a disaster waiting to happen.

It already did happen earlier in the season. 

[foxile5]

13 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

It's Russell Martin

I can understand why that might appeal to our board but it would be a honking ****ing appointment.

[sporter113]

I'd prefer a manager who can change the style of play, depending on the opposition.

 

But saying that. If the only options are managers who are wedded to a specific style, then getting a more direct manager is the way forward, for a club in our position. Rather than a possession-oriented manager.

 

Russell Martin may very well be able to get us promoted, but we would 100%, no doubt, with all certainty, be coming straight back down with him.

[Sankey93]

1 hour ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

The thing with him is he isn't interested in going to a big club. He didn't want to go to Celtic or Ajax when they were interested. 

Maybe he doesn't want to go overseas 🤷🏽

He’s only ever managed bodo glimt anorl makes ya wonder think he’s happy and knows he’s safe there.

[Sankey93]

If we appoint any of these fellas I’ll be happy but majority of this list we have zero chance!

 

henrik rydstrom

danny rohl

urs fischer

garcia pimienta

Bo Svensson

Roger Schmidt

 

 

 

 

[Chrysalis]

6 hours ago, cruzFOX said:

There is nothing wrong with the tikky takka style of football if it’s played the right way efficiently. Peak Barca was a joy to watch because there was a method behind it and was always progressive ie move the ball forward. The had high level players that could pull the opposition all over the place while staying in complete control and shape themselves. 
 

Inferior teams copying this style look horrible and suffer. It’s just not for everyone.

now if you look at Barca today they have actually evolved their playing style which says a lot. They are a lot more direct now.

Read your post, and you are right when it does work it can be effective, but of course it is Barca with godly players.

 

I immediately thought of an analogy.

 

You a giant tasked to kill a little girl, you can take your time, break one bone at a time, and do it slowly.

The other way round you need to take a short cut to have a chance and go straight for the balls or eye with a knife.

[Dan]

On 13/04/2025 at 22:30, Bilo said:

The insane thing is that the style that brought us the most famous success in not only the club's history but arguably also that of English football is exactly what everyone with any sense is now moving towards- rock solid defence, well-drilled players, lung bursting fitness and rapid counter attacks at blistering pace. We were a decade ahead of everyone else and didn't even know it ourselves.

 

Then Top drank the Guardiola Kool-Aid because possession football bought us a couple of years of success under Rodgers and has been supping it ever since. Ahead of the curve, to following trends to behind the curve now. Rank incompetence.

 

What's mad is that we have some of the building blocks to go for a counterattacking style. Nelson and Okoli are solid, reliable defenders at Championship level. Coulibaly is a mobile fullback, Justin was last season at Championship level. Fatawu and Mavididi wreaked havoc on the break when we played that style against Southampton. Skipp is still only 24 and could easily do it against Championship sides. BEK is the creative outlet. There's depth in players like Alves. Find a decent striker with a bit of pace, physicality and ability to finish and we're on our way. 

Completely agree and think it's a massive shame. I never bought that we couldn't build on the 2015/16 style. We've taken it another direction - albeit the mish-mash recruitment is probably the main issue.

 

We won the league with a style the fans for the most part did resonate with. Genuinely entertaining and effective. You really did think we were different.

 

High intensity is what will resonate with our fans. The team I'd like to see us replicate in the Premier League if anybody isn't Man City, or Arsenal, or even Liverpool. For me it's Newcastle. They have a bit of everything for me. What's most impressive is that despite having some obvious brilliance in their team, they still have cogs from their struggling teams actually playing a useful role. You get the impression that they get the most out of everyone they have at the club. They're the closest to the sort of way I'd want us to play.

 

I just cannot do slow football.

[winteriscoming]

22 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

If we appoint any of these fellas I’ll be happy but majority of this list we have zero chance!

 

henrik rydstrom

danny rohl

urs fischer

garcia pimienta

Bo Svensson

Roger Schmidt

 

 

 

 

Schmidt we have zero chance of getting. We have a chance with the others. Would rather look abroad but we won’t. Nuno and Bielsa managed in the championship so it is possible to get someone from abroad. 

[Bilo]

5 minutes ago, Dan said:

Completely agree and think it's a massive shame. I never bought that we couldn't build on the 2015/16 style. We've taken it another direction - albeit the mish-mash recruitment is probably the main issue.

 

We won the league with a style the fans for the most part did resonate with. Genuinely entertaining and effective. You really did think we were different.

 

High intensity is what will resonate with our fans. The team I'd like to see us replicate in the Premier League if anybody isn't Man City, or Arsenal, or even Liverpool. For me it's Newcastle. They have a bit of everything for me. What's most impressive is that despite having some obvious brilliance in their team, they still have cogs from their struggling teams actually playing a useful role. You get the impression that they get the most out of everyone they have at the club. They're the closest to the sort of way I'd want us to play.

 

I just cannot do slow football.

Newcastle to me seems a sustainable model as well. They haven't, in part because of PSR, hurled stupid amounts of money at mercenaries. They're entertaining to watch, have great young English players and a manager who has a clear idea of what he wants. It seems very cohesive and coherent.

 

I've heard people say that we should try to emulate Forest and that might work for a couple of years, but it's not a long-term solution. They're going to get found out (arguably already are given how their results have begun to dip) and, as much as some will roll their eyes at this, have had to have a lot beyond their control fall their way to get to where they are. 

 

There's also the bigger issue of not wanting to emulate anyone. We had our own identity, our own success and our own methods that were very, very successful. Rapid transitions in play, smart recruitment of players with something to prove and the right attitude, sports psychology, team spirit and fitness that was so ridiculous it had bitter rival fans accusing us of doping.

[ceebeefox]

32 minutes ago, Dan said:

Completely agree and think it's a massive shame. I never bought that we couldn't build on the 2015/16 style. We've taken it another direction - albeit the mish-mash recruitment is probably the main issue.

 

We won the league with a style the fans for the most part did resonate with. Genuinely entertaining and effective. You really did think we were different.

 

High intensity is what will resonate with our fans. The team I'd like to see us replicate in the Premier League if anybody isn't Man City, or Arsenal, or even Liverpool. For me it's Newcastle. They have a bit of everything for me. What's most impressive is that despite having some obvious brilliance in their team, they still have cogs from their struggling teams actually playing a useful role. You get the impression that they get the most out of everyone they have at the club. They're the closest to the sort of way I'd want us to play.

 

I just cannot do slow football.

Spot on. I remember the Boxing Day fiasco, I looked at the team sheet and thought, this is Steve Bruce’s team more or less , these ain’t beating us. Two nil down in no time against a team who ran the legs off us, as did championship Forest in the cup.

[when_you're_smiling]

30 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Newcastle to me seems a sustainable model as well. They haven't, in part because of PSR, hurled stupid amounts of money at mercenaries. They're entertaining to watch, have great young English players and a manager who has a clear idea of what he wants. It seems very cohesive and coherent.

Is this a wind up? A sustainable model is get the richest owners in football, spend about £400m in four years and have a wage bill that is about 30 per cent higher than our already higher than turnover setup?

[Bilo]

2 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Is this a wind up? A sustainable model is get the richest owners in football, spend about £400m in four years and have a wage bill that is about 30 per cent higher than our already higher than turnover setup?

Perhaps reading isn't your forte, but please note the following:

 

"There's also the bigger issue of not wanting to emulate anyone. We had our own identity, our own success and our own methods that were very, very successful. Rapid transitions in play, smart recruitment of players with something to prove and the right attitude, sports psychology, team spirit and fitness that was so ridiculous it had bitter rival fans accusing us of doping."

 

The point is that Newcastle's methods in recruitment and style of play are more sustainable than those above them in the spending table - namely Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester United. All spent more, none with any success. And Newcastle had a far, far lower base than any of them after Mike Ashley had run them into the ground.