Premier League has charged LCFC with an alleged breach of PSR

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

https://eflanalysis.com/news/the-next-leicester-city-manager-is-set-to-be-handed-a-major-transfer-boost-despite-psr-setback/

 

Leicester won’t need a ‘fire sale’ after PSR issues

EFL Analysis expert Graeme Bailey has revealed that despite the off-field issues, Leicester won’t need to be forced into a fire sale and could therefore hold on to talents like Ben Nelson, who is wanted by Chelsea.

Bailey said: “I’m told that PSR-wise, they probably won’t have to sell.

“The parachute payments help. I don’t think they’ll have to sell massively. And everyone in that Leicester squad has a contract that sees their wages reduced [after relegation], so that helps, too. They’re hoping there’s a bounce factor in that they can go straight back up.

“Their plan is to go straight back. So, I don’t necessarily think it’ll be like a fire sale or anything.”

This is ****ing terrible news by the way.

[Guest Bilo]

Worth pointing out that Sheffield United, who were absolutely wretched last season and conceded 104 goals, had a two point deduction at the start of this season and are at Wembley on Saturday. For reference, they'd still be four points ahead of fourth placed Sunderland if it had been 12.

[Gamble92]

2 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Worth pointing out that Sheffield United, who were absolutely wretched last season and conceded 104 goals, had a two point deduction at the start of this season and are at Wembley on Saturday. For reference, they'd still be four points ahead of fourth placed Sunderland if it had been 12.

This is a great point but you also need to factor in the mental impact of starting on -12 compared to -2. Unlikely you'd have the exact same results. 

[Guest Bilo]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

This is a great point but you also need to factor in the mental impact of starting on -12 compared to -2. Unlikely you'd have the exact same results. 

I personally don't think we get anything like 12 when the penalty for going into administration is 10. The independent commission would likely throw it out as disproportionate as they have before. The Premier League/EFL will ask for 12 and be ready to be knocked down. I suspect 6.

[Gamble92]

3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I personally don't think we get anything like 12 when the penalty for going into administration is 10. The independent commission would likely throw it out as disproportionate as they have before. The Premier League/EFL will ask for 12 and be ready to be knocked down. I suspect 6.

New thread idea - if you could give anyone on here -12 rep, who would it be and why?

[Terraloon]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

My impression was that Maguire believes that if a club breaches in the Championship and then gets promoted, jurisdiction can be transferred to a PL IC but any subsequent sanction cannot follow that club back to the Championship if it gets relegated immediately. He didn't seem to think the PL could just transfer jurisdiction back to the EFL to administer the punishment. He may well be wrong - he certainly seems to be a bit of an outlier in his interpretation. But that is what he seems to believe - and he seems pretty sure of it, too. 

He maybe correct in the point that any PL can’t hand down punishment to be implemented in the Championship.

 

My point here is that LCFC are now to be relegated and by my reading if the two set ups ( EFL and PL ) agree jurisdiction can be passed to the EFL to deal with under their rules and regulations 

[Lambert09]

11 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

New thread idea - if you could give anyone on here -12 rep, who would it be and why?

Rudkins best mate and we all know who I mean 

[ClaphamFox]

18 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

He maybe correct in the point that any PL can’t hand down punishment to be implemented in the Championship.

 

My point here is that LCFC are now to be relegated and by my reading if the two set ups ( EFL and PL ) agree jurisdiction can be passed to the EFL to deal with under their rules and regulations 

Yes, it's this bit that he seems to disagree with. He apparently thinks that while jurisdiction can move between the two bodies to follow a promoted or relegated club, any punishment imposed by a PL IC must be implemented in the PL - ie, jurisdiction can't just be passed back down to the EFL. 

He was on Radio Leicester again tonight, saying more or less the same thing. The only colour he added was that under PL rules we are supposed to be punished this season and that Ipswich and possibly Southampton could have a legitimate grievance if our punishment was pushed into next season and they missed out on PL prize money from this season as a result. 

 

 

Edited 22 May 2025 by ClaphamFox

[Corky]

55 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Yes, it's this bit that he seems to disagree with. He apparently thinks that while jurisdiction can move between the two bodies to follow a promoted or relegated club, any punishment imposed by a PL IC must be implemented in the PL - ie, jurisdiction can't just be passed back down to the EFL. 

He was on Radio Leicester again tonight, saying more or less the same thing. The only colour he added was that under PL rules we are supposed to be punished this season and that Ipswich and possibly Southampton could have a legitimate grievance if our punishment was pushed into next season and they missed out on PL prize money from this season as a result. 

 

 

The last part will become clearer this Sunday. If Ipswich win and we lose then they will finish above us so no prize money issue. If, as expected, Saints also lose to Arsenal then we would need to be deducted 14 points to finish below them (very unlikely) or we just give them the difference.

[Winstonthedog]

4 hours ago, Corky said:

Hopefully it will be concluded soon. We deserve a punishment and not cooperating is a very poor look.

 

Would also be nice if we started to get our house in order and comply because, as well as being embarrassing from the club, this topic is so tedious.

Absolutely this is a stench hanging over the club .... take the punishment... lick our wounds... get shot of the people who put us in this position and go from there .... far far easier than dragging this out .... and trying to make out the club thinks it knows what it's doing ... when clearly it doesn't 

[STUHILL]

The Championship is absolute dross compared to the Premier League. 

 

As bad as these players have been, they will likely look like world beaters down there. Vestergaard looked like prime Maldini last time.

 

That doesn't help us in the long-term with trying to stay up, but it does mean that we really should be bouncing straight back. 

[Clever Fox]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Is there any evidence the EFL are able to do that? DiMarco will be rubbing his hands together.

That's exactly my interpretation. My understanding is we won the case because they had no legal jurisdiction to enforce their rules in the Championship.

 

They voted to breakaway from the other leagues , So how could they think they could enforce their will on the Championship.

 

I can't wait for the Regulator to be appointed to properly and fairly regulate football. Or I'd love a wealthy Football Fan to challenge a lot of these unfair rules in Court.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

Rudkins best mate and we all know who I mean 

@Babylon?

[Terraloon]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Yes, it's this bit that he seems to disagree with. He apparently thinks that while jurisdiction can move between the two bodies to follow a promoted or relegated club, any punishment imposed by a PL IC must be implemented in the PL - ie, jurisdiction can't just be passed back down to the EFL. 

He was on Radio Leicester again tonight, saying more or less the same thing. The only colour he added was that under PL rules we are supposed to be punished this season and that Ipswich and possibly Southampton could have a legitimate grievance if our punishment was pushed into next season and they missed out on PL prize money from this season as a result. 

 

 

How would it be an PL IC if jurisdiction is transferred to the EFL ? My reading is that if it’s passed back to the EFL it’s dealt with under their rules and regulations 
Whilst the expectation is that any PSR matter within the PL jurisdiction would be dealt with under their expedited procedure within that process the pro exists to vary the timeline detailed within 

Here’s the PL rules re the expedited process remember that there are two other charges one is in respect of LCFC not sending in the 23/24 accounts by 31/12/24

[Ric Flair]

Have we been told how late the accounts were published? Bearing in mind on 14th January 2025 it was announced no club had breached for 23/24.

[Pliskin]

Applying a 12 point deduction to our last championship campaign, would still have seen us finishing comfortably in the play off spots. 
 

In a season where we don’t chuck away needless points could still see us finishing in the top two. 

[Terraloon]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Is there any evidence the EFL are able to do that? DiMarco will be rubbing his hands together.

Read this

[Hitesh]

We'd be better off putting the effort that everyone is making here trying to work out the rules and instead,  hacking into the PL systems and amending the accounts and PSR calculations.

[Pliskin]

22 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

Read this

Is this the “amended” version? I.E mardy bastards change the rules and have another go? 

[cityfanlee23]

The crazy thing is, the EFL want the big earners off of our wage book, the fans want the big earners to never wear the shirt again, the players themselves don't want to be here, the only ones who want them are Top and Rudkin 

[FoxTimmy2]

No more Vardy, a squad full of unsellable donkeys, PSR breathing down our necks, and our managerial options seems to be either RVN or Russell Martin.

 

Has there ever been a stronger case for just folding the club and calling it a day?

Edited 22 May 2025 by FoxTimmy2

[STUHILL]

6 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

The crazy thing is, the EFL want the big earners off of our wage book, the fans want the big earners to never wear the shirt again, the players themselves don't want to be here, the only ones who want them are Top and Rudkin 

I think it is more of a case that no one wants these overpaid crappy players, so we are stuck with them until their contract finally runs out. Looking at you Danny! 

[Pliskin]

10 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

The crazy thing is, the EFL want the big earners off of our wage book, the fans want the big earners to never wear the shirt again, the players themselves don't want to be here, the only ones who want them are Top and Rudkin 

So the EFL will then go and slap an embargo on us. So we can’t sell them, and then say we’ve breached!

[shen]

19 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

So the EFL will then go and slap an embargo on us. So we can’t sell them, and then say we’ve breached!

Surely the embargo is just for us to buy, not to sell.

[The boy Linacre]

4 minutes ago, shen said:

Surely the embargo is just for us to buy, not to sell.

Surely that’s a good thing is it not???

Then we won’t buy anything similar to Skipp, BDCR, Golding? And loan somebody like Edouard???

win win surely??

Might go up then