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Russell Martin

By Stevosevic, in Leicester City Forum

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Saxondale

Saxondale

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3 minutes ago, stu said:

Ok, we don't 'know' but we can make an highly educated assumption based on the fact we had money to spend last summer and chose not to spend it on manager who was in a job.

 

Fast forward 12 months, we are in an even worse financial position after two failed managerical appointments to add to likely PSR issues for this season.

 

Highly likely we will go for someone out of work.

I disagree. Cooper was a **** up. 

ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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48 minutes ago, stu said:

Ok, we don't 'know' but we can make an highly educated assumption based on the fact we had money to spend last summer and chose not to spend it on manager who was in a job.

 

Fast forward 12 months, we are in an even worse financial position after two failed managerical appointments to add to likely PSR issues for this season.

 

Highly likely we will go for someone out of work.

And look how that turned out. Is it not possible the club will now understand that recruiting a manager on the cheap is not the best option?

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OntarioFox

OntarioFox

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Small point of order on Marsch, since some mentioned it - the board only vetoed it because he wanted a long contract (either 3 or 5 years I think?) and we wouldn't give him more than an interim one. They wasted valuable days trying to convince him to take the short term deal, then he walked away. The board still wanted him.

 

They didn't give a flying fook what the fans thought then, it only fell apart because we were skint and (laughable as it is) couldn't afford him. lol Smith was the next random name they drew out of a hat and luckily he was more willing to take the chance on a short term deal and discuss again that summer.

 

With that in mind, unless Brussel demands a ten year contract and bonuses for every game we have 80% possession, they'll absolutely follow through on hiring him. Our opinion means nothing to them and some here are giving way too much credit to their thought process when hiring.

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hackneyfox

hackneyfox

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54 minutes ago, stu said:

Ok, we don't 'know' but we can make an highly educated assumption based on the fact we had money to spend last summer and chose not to spend it on manager who was in a job.

 

Fast forward 12 months, we are in an even worse financial position after two failed managerical appointments to add to likely PSR issues for this season.

 

Highly likely we will go for someone out of work.

As the awful loss seasons have dropped off the 3 year period I’d have thought we had more to spend next season.

FrankieADZ

FrankieADZ

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1 hour ago, Bilo said:

Honestly, I'm not sure.

 

It won't be anyone abroad as our board is too myopic. I would have said Still if Southampton hadn't got in first, but it could be Carsley, Muslic, Röhl, Hassenhutl or Cleverley.  The only way I think we go abroad is if they utilise their Belgian contacts and go for someone like Tedesco.

Belgian contact, the only thing the club knows is Belgian sodding buns

 

Sad thing is, its probably going to be Martin, who frankly none of us want

Guest Bilo

Guest Bilo

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16 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

As the awful loss seasons have dropped off the 3 year period I’d have thought we had more to spend next season.

The 21-22 season was the bad one, I think. About £100m loss.

 

That leaves 22-23, 23-24 and 24-25 in next season's assessments. The 22-23 season wasn't much better, with an £89.7m loss and the 23-24 season saw a £19.4m loss. No idea what the figures are for this season, but it still looks grim. That said, the £2.5m we'd reportedly have to pay Sheffield Wednesday for Röhl probably wouldn't make much difference.

lcfc_forever

lcfc_forever

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5 minutes ago, Bilo said:

The 21-22 season was the bad one, I think. About £100m loss.

 

That leaves 22-23, 23-24 and 24-25 in next season's assessments. The 22-23 season wasn't much better, with an £89.7m loss and the 23-24 season saw a £19.4m loss. No idea what the figures are for this season, but it still looks grim. That said, the £2.5m we'd reportedly have to pay Sheffield Wednesday for Röhl probably wouldn't make much difference.

Yeah, the logic on scrimping on manager fees to help with PSR is very off. 

 

Given how the club relies so much on the manager, you'd have thought a bigger investment there makes more sense than spunking £20m on the likes of Skipp, or giving Vestergaard a new contract. Clear example is Corberan who the club were very interested in but decided to go for a manager not in contract and look how that worked out. 

Guest Bilo

Guest Bilo

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4 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

Yeah, the logic on scrimping on manager fees to help with PSR is very off. 

 

Given how the club relies so much on the manager, you'd have thought a bigger investment there makes more sense than spunking £20m on the likes of Skipp, or giving Vestergaard a new contract. Clear example is Corberan who the club were very interested in but decided to go for a manager not in contract and look how that worked out. 

The wages are the issue. Vardy, Iversen and Ward alone are on £200,000 a week between them. Taking them off the wage bill saves £10m a year. Getting a decent fee for Hermansen brings in a lump sum, as do sales of Faes and Soumare. Not to mention getting their wages off the books. 

 

Getting a decent manager in could be a huge difference maker to success on the pitch and transfer policy. It's tricky to find a good manager who's out of work because, frankly, they're often unemployed for a reason.

volpeazzurro

volpeazzurro

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44 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

And look how that turned out. Is it not possible the club will now understand that recruiting a manager on the cheap is not the best option?

Not really, I don't think it will even occur to them. Top will still think he's playing a FIFA game and think can get us playing the same as Pep but on the cheap!

Chelmofox

Chelmofox

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24 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

For anyone hoping Rangers are looking to appoint Martin so he doesn't come here, Balague has just published suggesting that Davide Ancelotti appears to be the frontrunner but Rangers need to get a move on to appoint him as he has other options. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgv4xvqe00o

Rangers wont want Martin because they know he will be dog**it. 

lcfc_forever

lcfc_forever

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7 minutes ago, Bilo said:

The wages are the issue. Vardy, Iversen and Ward alone are on £200,000 a week between them. Taking them off the wage bill saves £10m a year. Getting a decent fee for Hermansen brings in a lump sum, as do sales of Faes and Soumare. Not to mention getting their wages off the books. 

 

Getting a decent manager in could be a huge difference maker to success on the pitch and transfer policy. It's tricky to find a good manager who's out of work because, frankly, they're often unemployed for a reason.

Exactly, the ceiling on getting the right manager is huge and all the more critical at this club when there is DoF who doesn't have a strategy. 

ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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8 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Not really, I don't think it will even occur to them. Top will still think he's playing a FIFA game and think can get us playing the same as Pep but on the cheap!

I understand why people are cynical about the people who run our club, but this assumption that they're literally the stupidest people in the world and are incapable of learning anything at all and will therefore make the same mistake over and over again seems a bit overdone to me. Maybe I'm just naïve. 

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RyCleary

RyCleary

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11 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I understand why people are cynical about the people who run our club, but this assumption that they're literally the stupidest people in the world and are incapable of learning anything at all and will therefore make the same mistake over and over again seems a bit overdone to me. Maybe I'm just naïve. 

Based on the evidence we have, I’d argue making anything but that assumption is naive

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FrankieADZ

FrankieADZ

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25 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Rangers wont want Martin because they know he will be dog**it. 

tbf theyve got a few they want, Martin is one on their list, along with Davide Ancelotti and Stevie G

volpeazzurro

volpeazzurro

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18 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I understand why people are cynical about the people who run our club, but this assumption that they're literally the stupidest people in the world and are incapable of learning anything at all and will therefore make the same mistake over and over again seems a bit overdone to me. Maybe I'm just naïve. 

It only really seems to have arisen since Top took over the reigns which is approaching 7 years ago now. Prior to this, even with Rudkin and Whelan, things seemed very well run some people seem to forget. 

 

For me, things started to disintegrate when Top took Rodgers on. Staff in a number of positions got changed from recruitment, backroom and medical yet the old model had previously been working. 

 

If Top hasn't grasped it in nearly 7 years when will he?

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LVFox

LVFox

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59 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

For anyone hoping Rangers are looking to appoint Martin so he doesn't come here, Balague has just published suggesting that Davide Ancelotti appears to be the frontrunner but Rangers need to get a move on to appoint him as he has other options. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgv4xvqe00o

I'd take Ancelotti here instead of Martin. But not if it means Balague is back sniffing around 

Saxondale

Saxondale

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2 hours ago, StanSP said:

I'd stick money on Rohl being the manager... 

I asked my dog who I thought would be the next Leicester manager and she kept saying Rohl.

Vlad the Fox

Vlad the Fox

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3 hours ago, RyCleary said:

Based on the evidence we have, I’d argue making anything but that assumption is naive

Based on the evidence I’d argue it’s not an assumption but fact. lol 

wurmer

wurmer

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3 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

It only really seems to have arisen since Top took over the reigns which is approaching 7 years ago now. Prior to this, even with Rudkin and Whelan, things seemed very well run some people seem to forget. 

 

For me, things started to disintegrate when Top took Rodgers on. Staff in a number of positions got changed from recruitment, backroom and medical yet the old model had previously been working. 

 

If Top hasn't grasped it in nearly 7 years when will he?

He won’t.

 

He should just sell up.

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