General News Thread

[Bellend Sebastian]

Have we got anybody on here that works for the County Council? I know someone that does and according to them it's going just GREAT under Reform control

[Sampson]

45 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I draw parallels between the lead up to the Referendum and Remainers blaséness and regarding Reform and any future GE
 

 

Where are people being blase? Most polls predicted Remain to win and it was a surprise that Leave won, however most polls predict Reform to win and have them comfortably ahead in the opinion polls. I think most people would absolutely expect Farage to be our next PM if there was a GE tomorrow, all the polls show that.
 

People are just saying that 4 years is a hell of a long time in politics these days, and the world could be a very different place then (which may even benefit Reform but also may not).

Edited 21 June 2025 by Sampson

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Where are people being blase? Most polls predicted Remain to win and it was a surprise that Leave won, however most polls predict Reform to win and have them comfortably ahead in the opinion polls. I think most people would absolutely expect Farage to be our next PM if there was a GE tomorrow, all the polls show that.
 

People are just saying that 4 years is a hell of a long time in politics these days, and the world could be a very different place then (which may even benefit Reform but also may not).

Exactly, and I'll add that the effect of Reform winning in the UK will be broadly similar to what is going on now in the US. Do people really want a piece of that? 

 

Also, in b4 the lock.

[MaidstoneFox]

41 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I draw parallels between the lead up to the Referendum and Remainers blaséness and regarding Reform and any future GE
 

 

Things can change very quickly in politics, especially when you have a US president who wants to make a different headline every single day.

 

Jeremy Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017, which is only 8 years ago, though voting was much less fragmented. With people's voting allegiances spread more widely now I don't think reform's 34% would result in a majority as too many people still voting Labour or Libdem. And you imagine this would be their high point or close to it, as governments try to do all their difficult, unpopular stuff in the first year. But who knows, if interest rates don't come down, unemployment goes up and the cost of living continues to bite, then more people might buy Farage's fantasy. Right wing authoritarians trade on chaos and uncertainty as they offer a supposedly strong hand through it all.

[Sampson]

11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Exactly, and I'll add that the effect of Reform winning in the UK will be broadly similar to what is going on now in the US. Do people really want a piece of that? 

 

Also, in b4 the lock.

Why in b4 the lock? This has been a perfectly civil discussion

[bovril]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I draw parallels between the lead up to the Referendum and Remainers blaséness and regarding Reform and any future GE
 

 

Interesting that after a few years of brexit and seeing its effects you describe remainers, not leavers, as blase

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Why in b4 the lock? This has been a perfectly civil discussion

Because direct discussion of certain areas of UK politics appear to be hot button matters that result in that, even if the discussion appears to be civil. 

 

Of course, I hope it's not the case here  though. 

[MPH]

They’ve only gone and done it…

[hejammy]

Ahhh ffs

[Super_horns]

Well as if it wasn’t kicking off enough already.. !

[fox_favourite]

What an absolute twit! Utterly stupid decision from poo noise nan. Back burp has just made the whole thing worse. 

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Exactly, and I'll add that the effect of Reform winning in the UK will be broadly similar to what is going on now in the US. Do people really want a piece of that? 

 

Also, in b4 the lock.

Repeated for emphasis. 

[bovril]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Exactly, and I'll add that the effect of Reform winning in the UK will be broadly similar to what is going on now in the US. 

It won't be because Britain isn't America. It'll just be more of the decline of the last couple of decades, but even faster and deeper. 

[Jattdogg]

Trump is a vile cvnt. Not that I love Iranian leaders.

[Sampson]

3 hours ago, bovril said:

It won't be because Britain isn't America. It'll just be more of the decline of the last couple of decades, but even faster and deeper. 

While I agree there are cultural differences, the ideas will be the same, just dressed up in a way that’s more palatable for British people. But the same fundamental ideas of taking on the checks and balances that hold up democracy- the education system, the courts, the law, the HoL, random performative cruelty against immigrants, shutting down any protests with force, the peddling of conspiracy theories, anti-science, claiming to be the party of free speech while fundamentally shutting down anything “woke” or anything that opposes them, fundamentally telling people to ignore their eyes and ears and declaring any objection to be fake news, crisis actors etc. will be there. 

Edited 22 June 2025 by Sampson

[The Year Of The Fox]

6 hours ago, bovril said:

Interesting that after a few years of brexit and seeing its effects you describe remainers, not leavers, as blase

Irrespective of whether you think Brexit has been good or bad for the country, the Referendum only turned out the way it did because a proportion of Remainers dismissed the Leave vote and subsequently stayed at home. 
 

There are elements of that regarding Reform too. They’re written off by some- purely because they strongly disagree with Reforms views.
 

 

[Sly]

55 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Irrespective of whether you think Brexit has been good or bad for the country, the Referendum only turned out the way it did because a proportion of Remainers dismissed the Leave vote and subsequently stayed at home. 
 

There are elements of that regarding Reform too. They’re written off by some- purely because they strongly disagree with Reforms views.
 

 

I agree with this. 
 

I think if voting was mandatory for the past 20 years, we’d live in a vastly different landscape in this country now. 
 

As it is not, we are, where we are. 

[Pliskin]

57 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Irrespective of whether you think Brexit has been good or bad for the country, the Referendum only turned out the way it did because a proportion of Remainers dismissed the Leave vote and subsequently stayed at home. 
 

There are elements of that regarding Reform too. They’re written off by some- purely because they strongly disagree with Reforms views.
 

 

This is spot on, it stands for a lot of elements of voting within this country….. rather than deal with things we dismiss them, seems to be inherently ingrained in British culture I think, if it’s not of interest we dismiss it. 

[Sly]

I also wonder if the doomsday clock will now be moved from 89 seconds to Midnight? 
 

I’m sure he’s acting on intelligence that isn’t widely available, however Orange Man is basically war mongering.
 

Attacking Iran with congressional approval (which he doesn’t actually need to do in case of emergencies), could push that clock handle backward, or forward.

 

Maybe it’s a case of the bearings will continue until they fall inline with what the US wants. 

[Sampson]

18 minutes ago, Sly said:

I also wonder if the doomsday clock will now be moved from 89 seconds to Midnight? 
 

I’m sure he’s acting on intelligence that isn’t widely available, however Orange Man is basically war mongering.
 

Attacking Iran with congressional approval (which he doesn’t actually need to do in case of emergencies), could push that clock handle backward, or forward.

 

Maybe it’s a case of the bearings will continue until they fall inline with what the US wants. 

I can’t see it quite yet. I don’t think Russia or Saudi will aid Iran and therefore this won’t quite be the straw that breaks the camel back and starts World War 3. But there’s so many crisis happening these days and in the age of populism there’s many world leaders who need this ever increasing and ratcheting up of chaos to thrive, that one of these crisis may eventually be the Gavrillo Princep moment.

Edited 22 June 2025 by Sampson

[Md9]

Doing well with his no new wars and stopping the Ukraine Russia war after 24 hours isn’t he. 
the World Cup and olympics should be pulled out of America now they will be to big a target for people who want to retaliate . 
 

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, Md9 said:

Doing well with his no new wars and stopping the Ukraine Russia war after 24 hours isn’t he. 
the World Cup and olympics should be pulled out of America now they will be to big a target for people who want to retaliate . 
 

It’s not really a new war though is it? America has had a long history with Iran, especially around their threat of nuclear weapon production. I don’t think many nations will be too concerned about this move, possibly secretly a few will be fairly supportive of it, as Starmer has been. I don’t think there will be a massive fallout following this strike. Potentially may be going forward if the conflict continues, but I don’t think Iran will retaliate, to be honest, they’ll end up being pummelled from both Isreal and the US….

[VLC86]

8 minutes ago, Md9 said:

Doing well with his no new wars and stopping the Ukraine Russia war after 24 hours isn’t he. 
the World Cup and olympics should be pulled out of America now they will be to big a target for people who want to retaliate . 
 

Glad I booked my flight to the US for the World Cup yesterday. Obviously saying that in jest as that could be the least of my worries.

[Trav Le Bleu]

9 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Have we got anybody on here that works for the County Council? I know someone that does and according to them it's going just GREAT under Reform control

My mate works in the flags department and he says he's never had it so easy.

[Trav Le Bleu]

6 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It’s not really a new war though is it? America has had a long history with Iran, especially around their threat of nuclear weapon production. I don’t think many nations will be too concerned about this move, possibly secretly a few will be fairly supportive of it, as Starmer has been. I don’t think there will be a massive fallout following this strike. Potentially may be going forward if the conflict continues, but I don’t think Iran will retaliate, to be honest, they’ll end up being pummelled from both Isreal and the US….