General News Thread

[RowlattsFox]

Not followed the story until reading a bit today but what was the motive? What led to the stabbing? Just random attack on someone walking past or were they known to each other?

 

I understand it may be difficult to know what's happened when 2 sides are telling a story, without any information but to blatantly ignore someone when they repeatedly say they've stabbed is disgraceful. You have to investigate it. 

[Tommy G]

Strange how BBC have turned off the comments section for the article. 

[lcfcell]

Don’t look back in anger though aye 

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Strange how BBC have turned off the comments section for the article. 

Should do it more often. Just invites disgusting comments from all sides. 

[fox_up_north]

7 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Not followed the story until reading a bit today but what was the motive? What led to the stabbing? Just random attack on someone walking past or were they known to each other?

 

I understand it may be difficult to know what's happened when 2 sides are telling a story, without any information but to blatantly ignore someone when they repeatedly say they've stabbed is disgraceful. You have to investigate it. 

Sadly it seems completely random but also, perversely, well organised. The family will be sentenced for their part in helping. The mother hiding and washed the actual knife. I believe both the brother and father were implicated.

 

Like that Southport killer, there were opportunities and the family will have had an inkling something could happen.  

[Spudulike]

12 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Not followed the story until reading a bit today but what was the motive? What led to the stabbing? Just random attack on someone walking past or were they known to each other?

 

I understand it may be difficult to know what's happened when 2 sides are telling a story, without any information but to blatantly ignore someone when they repeatedly say they've stabbed is disgraceful. You have to investigate it. 

The Judges summing up. Read from 13...

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

 

[Lionator]

I understand the family’s despair and the completely piss poor response from the police but I also don’t appreciate the political manipulation of this situation. 

[leicsmac]

16 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Should do it more often. Just invites disgusting comments from all sides. 

First rule of Internet news browsing on practically any story:

 

Don't read the comments. 

 

Of course, a lot of places keep comments open for the sake of farming outrage for clicks. 

 

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I understand the family’s despair and the completely piss poor response from the police but I also don’t appreciate the political manipulation of this situation. 

Sadly, that was inevitable in this case. 

[Foxdiamond]

6 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I understand the family’s despair and the completely piss poor response from the police but I also don’t appreciate the political manipulation of this situation. 

It was political manipulation that has affected the police

[kenny]

24 minutes ago, StanSP said:

The guy didn't even use his kirpan for this offence. 

 

Staggering now everyone is bothered about Sikhs carrying one even though it wasn't even used. 

 

Turns out he did. He used the larger one on his belt rather than the traditional ceremonial one you are thinking of.

 

Wikipedia says otherwise of course, but the judges comments confirm which knife was used.

 

 

[StanSP]

22 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

The Judges summing up. Read from 13...

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

 

Thanks for that. 

 

Utterly deplorable reading about his actions and a life imprisonment is fully just. He lied, lied and lied some more without any remorse to doing what he had just done in that moment. 

 

Point 27 is also interesting with the judge defending the police's actions in that moment. 

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, kenny said:

Turns out he did. He used the larger one on his belt rather than the traditional ceremonial one you are thinking of.

 

Wikipedia says otherwise of course, but the judges comments confirm which knife was used.

 

 

A large dagger is what I read. The judge states 'large Sikh dagger' initially then in latter comments doesn't refer to it being a Sikh one, just in addition to the smaller kirpan. I've read it fairly swiftly a couple of times so apologies if that is wrong. 

 

I see the Sikh community and leaders have totally condemned his actions and that they are not of a good practicing Sikh man. Rightly and correctly so. 

[Stevosevic]

26 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I understand the family’s despair and the completely piss poor response from the police but I also don’t appreciate the political manipulation of this situation. 

As someone else has said, it is political manipulation over a long period of time that meant the police officers automatically sided with the minority in fear of being called racist, as opposed to being impartial and doing their job. 

[davieG]

6 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

As someone else has said, it is political manipulation over a long period of time that meant the police officers automatically sided with the minority in fear of being called racist, as opposed to being impartial and doing their job. 

Can you really blame them if it had been a case of racism they would have been vilified in the media with demands for them to be sacked which they're getting anyway from the opposing point of view. We're looking like we've going from institutional racism to believing it's always that for fear of being wrong.

 

It's a lose / lose situation which is happening in most spheres of life due to the constant media clamour of righteousness and for punishment.

 

Everyone knows best.

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

As someone else has said, it is political manipulation over a long period of time that meant the police officers automatically sided with the minority in fear of being called racist, as opposed to being impartial and doing their job. 

... which was likewise derived from political manipulation in the past which meant those minority groups got little to no protection at all. 

 

The whole thing goes back a long time and finding a balance is bloody difficult. 

[Stevosevic]

13 minutes ago, davieG said:

Can you really blame them if it had been a case of racism they would have been vilified in the media with demands for them to be sacked which they're getting anyway from the opposing point of view. We're looking like we've going from institutional racism to believing it's always that for fear of being wrong.

 

It's a lose / lose situation which is happening in most spheres of life due to the constant media clamour of righteousness and for punishment.

 

Everyone knows best.

That’s kind of my point DavieG. Nobody knows how to act or behave now in fear or being labelled something else etc… It’s one extreme to the next. 

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

That’s kind of my point DavieG. Nobody knows how to act or behave now in fear or being labelled something else etc… It’s one extreme to the next. 

When people fail to perform their duties for the fear of how it will be perceived we have a systematic crisis. And what the police did in this case is deplorable but as a white British male I can't pretend that thought wouldn't enter my mind if I was in the same situation. The difference is I'd ike to think of still do what's right anyhow

[davieG]

14 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

That’s kind of my point DavieG. Nobody knows how to act or behave now in fear or being labelled something else etc… It’s one extreme to the next. 

I know, which is acceptable Brown or Black, it seemed like it was Black in the UK but Brown in the USA but just lately I watch UK TV programmes where Brown is used. 

 

I always try to avoid using either description.

 

Obviously times change when I was a kid in pretend war games Krauts, Wops and like Vardy Japs, mostly derived from American war films were the norm after all it was still only 10 to 15 years after the war and many older people were still refusing to buy anything from either especially from Japan

[Rubbersoul]

That footage is grim ****ing hell. Poor lad. 

[Foxdiamond]

27 minutes ago, davieG said:

Can you really blame them if it had been a case of racism they would have been vilified in the media with demands for them to be sacked which they're getting anyway from the opposing point of view. We're looking like we've going from institutional racism to believing it's always that for fear of being wrong.

 

It's a lose / lose situation which is happening in most spheres of life due to the constant media clamour of righteousness and for punishment.

 

Everyone knows best.

Even if someone is later found guilty of making racist remarks or assault the Police  surely have a duty of care when finding someone in a prone state repeatedly saying they can't breath and saying they have been stabbed. The coppers were told on arrival that the chap had a mouth full of blood. Even they thought he had been beaten up which could have resulted in serious injury yet their first thought was to nick him.

[davieG]

15 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

When people fail to perform their duties for the fear of how it will be perceived we have a systematic crisis. And what the police did in this case is deplorable but as a white British male I can't pretend that thought wouldn't enter my mind if I was in the same situation. The difference is I'd ike to think of still do what's right anyhow

If you read the Judges summing up it seems like it wasn't obvious from the blood that it was a serious injury and it's probably something they come across regularly of defendants falsely claim injury

[kenny]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

A large dagger is what I read. The judge states 'large Sikh dagger' initially then in latter comments doesn't refer to it being a Sikh one, just in addition to the smaller kirpan. I've read it fairly swiftly a couple of times so apologies if that is wrong. 

 

I see the Sikh community and leaders have totally condemned his actions and that they are not of a good practicing Sikh man. Rightly and correctly so. 

The reports are very muddled but the judge is clear.

 

It is referred to as unusual to carry a second larger Kirpan at the waist but not unheard of, it was this that was used in the stabbing.

[Foxdiamond]

38 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... which was likewise derived from political manipulation in the past which meant those minority groups got little to no protection at all. 

 

The whole thing goes back a long time and finding a balance is bloody difficult. 

That policy was made as a result of the George Floyd case in a foreign country with a completely different form of policing seems very odd to me. 

[Raj]

When Cops handcuff someone it is to maintain control, prevent escape, and protect em from harm or violence.

This kid was on the floor ffs.

Okay it might not have been apparent ASAP to the Cops he was stabbed but it would have taken a cursory look by them to see he was AND THEN the main action should have been life preservation as well has having the suspect in check.

The more i think about this its utterly disgraceful and sad

 

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

That policy was made as a result of the George Floyd case in a foreign country with a completely different form of policing seems very odd to me. 

I strongly doubt that Floyd was the sole or even biggest influence there. The murder of Stephen Lawrence shone a light on the behaviour of police towards minority groups, but there are many other examples in the past as well. 

 

Don't get me wrong, the procedure clearly went horribly wrong here, but as I said before, balance is both difficult and imperative on this matter and there are far too many voices apparently clamouring for the pendulum to swing way back in the opposite direction.