General News Thread

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

They've put a precision munition into a school during opening hours. Even if it was meant for the building next door, do you seriously not see any problem with that unless it was intended to hit the school? These aren't medieval catapults the US is using - it's guided munitions with incredibly high accuracy. If it hit that area then it was meant to hit that area. Stop playing internet troll. 

The building was part of the naval base till 2016 when it was repurposed as a school building. 
I’m not accepting that the Americans would deliberately bomb a school.  They are a lot of things but they aren’t that heinous.  Likely cock up and outdated intelligence - hopefully not an example of AI being used unchecked. 

[Jattdogg]

Even it was a miscalculation or mistake or whatever other possible excuse, the honourable thing to do would be to admit fault, own up, take responsibility and quit. How can you live with yourself knowing you killed kids and destroyed families?

 

I know war can be horrible, I am not oblivious to that. But it has to be the absolute last desperate option. No chance this situation was just that.

 

This all reeks of no real plan, no real idea, no fooking brains. Criminal just as much as the Iranians bombing everyone and their mum. 

 

 

[ALC Fox]

3 hours ago, Raj said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ceqvwrydzpqt

 

 

Trump accuses Starmer of seeking to 'join wars after we've already won' and says UK aircraft carriers not needed

 

 

Orangeman has thrown his toys out the pram again.

Starmer should go tell him to grow up and fvcking do one..🤣🤣

I cannot emphasise how fvcking good it would be if Starmer turned around and said, "well you won't be needing our bases at all then will you? And you won't need to use the UK as a stopping off point on the way over either, I presume? Probably best if you lot do one then."

[fox_favourite]

Tango man seems to think he's playing Civilization, but in real life. 

 

He's so detached from reality it's actually quite scary. He's also such a child that every comment needs posting on his stupid social media platform that he created. 

Edited 8 March by fox_favourite

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

The building was part of the naval base till 2016 when it was repurposed as a school building. 
I’m not accepting that the Americans would deliberately bomb a school.  They are a lot of things but they aren’t that heinous.  Likely cock up and outdated intelligence - hopefully not an example of AI being used unchecked. 

Choosing targets based on over ten years old intelligence would be more than a cock up. It would be criminal level negligence.

[CornwallFox]

Bristol "patriots" march. Union jacks everywhere. Man calls himself a neo-nazi calling out "heil Hitler" while an elderly woman does a nazi salute behind him. 

This is why the flag has a bad name @danny.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVlaL1XjLhA/?igsh=YXdnYWg1eWJnbXdv

Edited 8 March by CornwallFox

[Jon the Hat]

2 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

Even it was a miscalculation or mistake or whatever other possible excuse, the honourable thing to do would be to admit fault, own up, take responsibility and quit. How can you live with yourself knowing you killed kids and destroyed families?

 

I know war can be horrible, I am not oblivious to that. But it has to be the absolute last desperate option. No chance this situation was just that.

 

This all reeks of no real plan, no real idea, no fooking brains. Criminal just as much as the Iranians bombing everyone and their mum. 

 

 

Cue Trump saying it was the Iranians and their inaccurate munitions.

[Salisbury Fox]

7 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

They've put a precision munition into a school during opening hours. Even if it was meant for the building next door, do you seriously not see any problem with that unless it was intended to hit the school? These aren't medieval catapults the US is using - it's guided munitions with incredibly high accuracy. If it hit that area then it was meant to hit that area. Stop playing internet troll. 

Just to be clear, what happened was obviously tragic and the loss of so many children is horrific. It’s right that this should be investigated fully and, if necessary, justice served.

 

The point I was making was about the deliberate targeting of the school that I have yet to see proof of. Simply saying that precision munitions were used doesn’t mean the school was itself was deliberately targeted. There could be several reasons why it was hit in error such as misleading intelligence from assets on the ground, outdated targeting data or even munition or targeting failure, none of which support claims that the act was intentional.
 

I don’t see how asking for proof of intent constitutes trolling, that said I am happy to leave it there and not respond further.

[Raj]

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-mar-a-lago-keir-starmer-donald-trump-us-uk-relations/

 

Doesnt help with this cvnt Farage, in america rimming Orangemans arsehole and winding him up about starmer.

Having one of these creations in charge us bad enough, if we get the other multi millionaire,  ex banker " manned the people" in we are fvcked.

 

Starmer needs to hold his never and remember  this ain't our war, even though he reckons its won already!

Ask Blair what happened with the Iraq war, I'm sure he can advise!!

 

 

[fox_up_north]

Farage really isn't making the correct call, long term, by accepting the US money. Brits, in general, don't like American politics and attitudes. 

 

Couple that with Reform councils spectacularly failing to do the job and he could have a situation where 2029 is long enough away for people to get sick of him. 

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, fox_up_north said:

Farage really isn't making the correct call, long term, by accepting the US money. Brits, in general, don't like American politics and attitudes. 

 

Couple that with Reform councils spectacularly failing to do the job and he could have a situation where 2029 is long enough away for people to get sick of him. 

I'm right royally fed up with with him years ago. I hate him more than Ayew!! Even if you take the politics side out completely still don't like the man. Farage is a slimeball 

[Raj]

22 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I'm right royally fed up with with him years ago. I hate him more than Ayew!! Even if you take the politics side out completely still don't like the man. Farage is a slimeball 

Says what the "working class white bloke from Essex" wants to hear though.

 

They think hes " one of their own and one of the lads cos he has a pint in a pub with them".

Look at his backgr6 and hes far from one of them.

 

He deserves Trump.

Both loopy cvnts

 

[leicsmac]

8 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

Even it was a miscalculation or mistake or whatever other possible excuse, the honourable thing to do would be to admit fault, own up, take responsibility and quit. How can you live with yourself knowing you killed kids and destroyed families?

 

I know war can be horrible, I am not oblivious to that. But it has to be the absolute last desperate option. No chance this situation was just that.

 

This all reeks of no real plan, no real idea, no fooking brains. Criminal just as much as the Iranians bombing everyone and their mum. 

 

 

This is the thing, though. 

 

Some people have no sense of empathy, of contrition, of shame or of humility. Some people see killing kids of a different skin colour as just the price of doing business, or at worst, a desirable means to their end of ethnostates where the dominant rule is their own demographic. 

 

These people do not have honour to be appealed to, and will not relinquish their power just because a few kids who mean nothing to them were killed. 

 

The only way forward is for their power, of any kind, to be neutralised by others. 

 

 

7 hours ago, ALC Fox said:

I cannot emphasise how fvcking good it would be if Starmer turned around and said, "well you won't be needing our bases at all then will you? And you won't need to use the UK as a stopping off point on the way over either, I presume? Probably best if you lot do one then."

I think he's actually near the point where he can actually say that and not get fatal blowback from talking heads in the press and elsewhere now, thankfully. 

 

7 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

Tango man seems to think he's playing Civilization, but in real life. 

 

He's so detached from reality it's actually quite scary. He's also such a child that every comment needs posting on his stupid social media platform that he created. 

He's pretty much always been this way since his first term. It's just that over time, the mask has slipped more and more. 

 

I take very little pleasure in being almost entirely vindicated on my view on the man and his backers from the start. 

 

1 hour ago, Raj said:

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-mar-a-lago-keir-starmer-donald-trump-us-uk-relations/

 

Doesnt help with this cvnt Farage, in america rimming Orangemans arsehole and winding him up about starmer.

Having one of these creations in charge us bad enough, if we get the other multi millionaire,  ex banker " manned the people" in we are fvcked.

 

Starmer needs to hold his never and remember  this ain't our war, even though he reckons its won already!

Ask Blair what happened with the Iraq war, I'm sure he can advise!!

 

 

 

41 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Farage really isn't making the correct call, long term, by accepting the US money. Brits, in general, don't like American politics and attitudes. 

 

Couple that with Reform councils spectacularly failing to do the job and he could have a situation where 2029 is long enough away for people to get sick of him. 

Starmer should just let him get on with it, to a degree anyway. To paraphrase Napoleon, never interrupt your opponent when he's making a mistake.

 

And, thankfully, Trump finally has done something so odious that enough people do think it's a mistake. 

Edited 8 March by leicsmac

[st albans fox]

7 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Choosing targets based on over ten years old intelligence would be more than a cock up. It would be criminal level negligence.

Can’t disagree with that 

But they are striking so many targets that I can’t believe that they’ve done detailed due diligence on all of them. 

[Raj]

Just read that Blair ( The fecking rat) is also bombing into Starmer saying he should have supported US earlier.

This from the worm who cossied upto the US and got IK into the Oraq wat because of the incorrect weapons of mass destruction Iraq didnt even have!

 

Blair is now a almost a billionaire by the way...

Edited 8 March by Raj

[Zear0]

Don't forget Hegseth told troops under his command in Iraq to ignore the law in combat and ignore rules of engagement. Can't apply assumptions of normal process as an excuse that the bombing of a school was some lack of compliance. He's an alcoholic nationalist running a personal crusade (literally). 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Don't forget Hegseth told troops under his command in Iraq to ignore the law in combat and ignore rules of engagement. Can't apply assumptions of normal process as an excuse that the bombing of a school was some lack of compliance. He's an alcoholic nationalist running a personal crusade (literally). 

He and others seem perfectly fine with saying the quiet part out loud right now because they think no one will do anything significant about it. 

 

Let's hope that they are wrong. 

[Lionator]

9 hours ago, st albans fox said:

The building was part of the naval base till 2016 when it was repurposed as a school building. 
I’m not accepting that the Americans would deliberately bomb a school.  They are a lot of things but they aren’t that heinous.  Likely cock up and outdated intelligence - hopefully not an example of AI being used unchecked. 

Why would they not do that? They’ve unconditionally supported a country that has committed the most appalling state led atrocities of the 21st century. Of course they wouldn’t have targeted the girls but you only have to see the reaction of some Americans (they’re better off dead than in a Burqa) to see how they can morally rationalise it. 

[Lionator]

39 minutes ago, Raj said:

Just read that Blair ( The fecking rat) is also bombing into Starmer saying he should have supported US earlier.

This from the worm who cossied upto the US and got IK into the Oraq wat because of the incorrect weapons of mass destruction Iraq didnt even have!

 

Blair is now a almost a billionaire by the way...

Tony Blair joins the board of Trump’s peace council. Two weeks later a new American war in the Middle East. 

[DJW1]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

Says what the "working class white bloke from Essex" wants to hear though.

 

They think hes " one of their own and one of the lads cos he has a pint in a pub with them".

Look at his backgr6 and hes far from one of them.

 

He deserves Trump.

Both loopy cvnts

 

I think Reform are getting a bit rattled. They didn't win the recent byelection and Lowe has formed a new party, potentially taking supporters from Reform. Has their support peaked?

[CornwallFox]

29 minutes ago, DJW1 said:

I think Reform are getting a bit rattled. They didn't win the recent byelection and Lowe has formed a new party, potentially taking supporters from Reform. Has their support peaked?

They're falling apart within councils. Turns out being angry pub bores does not equal a sensible outlook for running a country or even county. And zero surprise that after 14 years of austerity they've found no waste to remove for the savings they were going to magic up. 

 

The longer the Iran war goes on the better for labour and the worse for reform with Farage so publicly calling for UK involvement and cosying up to a president even a lot of republicans are slowly backing away from.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

They're falling apart within councils. Turns out being angry pub bores does not equal a sensible outlook for running a country or even county. And zero surprise that after 14 years of austerity they've found no waste to remove for the savings they were going to magic up. 

 

The longer the Iran war goes on the better for labour and the worse for reform with Farage so publicly calling for UK involvement and cosying up to a president even a lot of republicans are slowly backing away from.

Potted politics.

 

Government having a tough time gets replaced by opposition who find out it's tough running a country.

 

Repeat and rinse ad infinitum.

Edited 8 March by Trav Le Bleu

[Trav Le Bleu]

3 hours ago, Raj said:

 

 

Blair is now a almost a billionaire by the way...

A true working class hero.

[Sampson]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

They're falling apart within councils. Turns out being angry pub bores does not equal a sensible outlook for running a country or even county. And zero surprise that after 14 years of austerity they've found no waste to remove for the savings they were going to magic up. 

 

The longer the Iran war goes on the better for labour and the worse for reform with Farage so publicly calling for UK involvement and cosying up to a president even a lot of republicans are slowly backing away from.

I think this Reform councillor in Nottingham sums them up, they spend £75k on flags to which someone says “you could’ve fixed 1,000 potholes with that money” to which they say “shut up about the flags, we’ve run out of money”

 

It’s all just meaningless culture war shit, it’s not about fixing the country (in fact they want the country to be run down so they can continually go on about what a shithole Britain is and talk the country down ad nauseam). 
 

 

 

Edited 8 March by Sampson

[Raj]

34 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I think this Reform councillor in Nottingham sums them up, they spend £75k on flags to which someone says “you could’ve fixed 1,000 potholes with that money” to which they say “shut up about the flags, we’ve run out of money”

 

It’s all just meaningless culture war shit, it’s not about fixing the country (in fact they want the country to be run down so they can continually go on about what a shithole Britain is and talk the country down ad nauseam). 
 

 

 

If you asked these dimwith Reformers just ONE other point in their agenda apart from stopping immigration they couldn't answer.

What's their policies on, healthcare, education, defence, policing,welfare etc...

 

Slowly people , apart from Dave from Essex, are realising these d2cks are about as useful as lcfc defence