Ruud Van Nistelrooy - Sacked - Official

[Simonb]

51 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Why

he was turned down from championship jobs prior to the appointment.

He has just made millions from 6 months work.

All the previous history was in the public domain regarding PSR and transfers with Rodgers.

His record was worse than the previous manager that got sacked.

 

He should feel sorry for what he subjected the paying fans to watch 

 

 

I don't quite think it's as simple as that.

 

As we all know we shouldn't believe what we read in the papers. The club's got history of convincing managers we are in a better position than reported and then it turns out to be utter rubbish. Even Enzo got messed around in the January window too.

 

The players he inherited were rubbish and there does seem to be an attitude issue with some players. 

 

The back up players to whom he started were no better.

 

I'm sure he's happy with the money he's made, but I'm also confident he'd rather have had a decent 18 months here and earnt a bigger move.

 

That being said, I do feel he was tactically inept and came across as a shite man to man manager. But I don't think the job he got was strictly the job he thought he was getting. 

 

I'm not sad to see him go, but I just don't think we treat managers right.. you have to give them the right tools to do the job and frankly that squad was honking

[adejo92]

Thank fvck for that, absolute joker.

[gerrytaggart]

WHYYYYY????

[Filbert Fireworks]

Maybe they quickly realised he was utter shite which was apparent after a fortnight and didn't back him in the winter window knowing he would waste it. Enlightened choice on reflection. 

 

[Gamble92]

I still can't believe they didn't put a clause in his contract for relegation. If he wasn't going to accept having a clause then don't hire him. A manager who had managed 3 games in the Premier League managing to negotiate that kind of contract shows exactly where this club is at.

 

The worst thing is if they manage to get someone mildly competent again then we'll get again get out the mess for a bit, and you'll have the happy clappers waxing lyrical about Top again. 

[ajthefox]

37 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Just goes to show not enough scouting goes into players personalities. 
 

When Thomas Frank was at Brentford for example, there’s no way he would have assembled a squad of the personalities that we’ve assembled. 
 

We are currently in an era full of unlikeable knobheads. 

That's true to some extent, but I do think sometimes these things are about the mix of personalities which you can't always account for, and the overall culture.

 

It feels like things have been rotting here for years, there's only so much any player coming in to that sort of situation can do. 

[shailen]

We are a joke 

[Lambert09]

He salvaged his reputation with me at the end slightly. Weirdly he seemed to make better decisions after we’d been relegated than before.  His tactics were always awful and squad selections also but I’m happy he tried to get some discipline back.  I don’t think it can be underestimated quite how important his handling of Monga will be for this club.  So for that I am grateful. 
 

Certainly didn’t deserve the cold shoulder and yet again the club has made themselves look clueless 

[kingfox]

53 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Pearson was very good in terms of recruitment, didn’t always get it right but I believe him and his team placed a lot on personality and character etc 

And we of course reaped the benefits, as he built a very likeable squad. 
 

Now I can barely count on one hand which players I like from this current squad. 
 

The type of personalities we have seen enter the club since the 21/22 summer transfer window, is a big reason why we’re in such shit. 

[HankMarvin]

26 minutes ago, Simonb said:

As we all know we shouldn't believe what we read in the papers. The club's got history of convincing managers we are in a better position than reported and then it turns out to be utter rubbish. Even Enzo got messed around in the January window too.

What shouldn’t we believe that we read in the papers 

[Dan]

3 hours ago, The Doctor said:

actually feel sorry for him reading that Percy article. Like we all know the board are useless and working under them is managing with one hand tied behind your back but:

"It is understood he was stunned by some of the resistance he encountered from players over simple things like strength and conditioning."

 

Get a manager (not dyche) who'll smash the seagrave culture to bits, at this point I'd take a full senior squad clear out with the exception of Fatawu.

 

In fairness he tried. That idiot owner will have the players back when they go crying about it.

 

This is a top down (Aiyawatt down) culture issue. Cannot be fixed under this owner.

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, Dan said:

In fairness he tried. That idiot owner will have the players back when they go crying about it.

 

This is a top down (Aiyawatt down) culture issue. Cannot be fixed under this owner.

Which is why sacking Ruud is a completely pointless exercise 

[CaliFOXnia]

Horrifying that sacking Ruud and appointing Dyche is exciting some.. 

 

If it is Dyche, recruitment will be absolutely hideous. Michael Keane and Ashley Young will come in on mega dough and the kids that Ruud has to take credit for introducing will never be seen again. 
 

We’ve sacked him and it’s hard to argue against him deserving it despite the fact that the players are a disgrace and the club is an absolute dog-shit bin fire BUT - it HAS to be a progressive, young coach again for me. Risky but we can’t afford to risk the development of the talent we have at this juncture IMO. 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

 

I don't disagree with either of you! 

 

But one player signed in Jan, for a paltry £3m, doesn't scream having opportunities to change things up. 

 

Therefore, not much to work with. I'm not making an excuse for him here. His choices were questionable at times and that's being generous! Pre-game, during matches and after a player had a good game he gets dropped etc.. 

 

I'm not backing him. But it's not as simple as saying he was shit when the club didn't exactly do much to help him out... 

Yes it is, he's just broken a record that no one has managed before no matter how shit their teams were.

 

That's piss poor and undefendable.

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Yes it is, he's just broken a record that no one has managed before no matter how shit their teams were.

 

That's piss poor and undefendable.

Saying the club didn't back him doesn't equate to defending him. Just saying. 

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Sorry but getting relegated with that squad wasn't the problem.

 

The manner it got relegated was, woeful management.

 

Leicester became the first club in top-flight history to go nine games without scoring at home under his watch.

 

There is no excuse for that, a plucky non league team could play those 9 games a still manage a goal.

 

 

Don't think it should solely be on Ruud that this happened, more a case of the club as a whole and the players ability to perform.

 

It's not like he had a massive amount of talent to choose from.

[Lambert09]

28 minutes ago, kingfox said:

And we of course reaped the benefits, as he built a very likeable squad. 
 

Now I can barely count on one hand which players I like from this current squad. 
 

The type of personalities we have seen enter the club since the 21/22 summer transfer window, is a big reason why we’re in such shit. 

Mav, fatawu, Ricardo, mads. Academy boys. 
 

that’s it for me. Problem we have, is that most of the players came for money, not footballing reasons. 

[Terraloon]

3 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

My gut feeling is they’ve decided to take the hit this financial year and just deal with the consequences to get it over with rather than kicking the can further down the road. Something us fans have been stating to do for a while.

 

Yet again where’s the accountability from anyone at board level, jobs should be lost.

Sky suggested, yes suggested, that it happened today because wages were paid today meaning  his compensation won’t be due to the end of July.Is that at cash flow issue?

 

That of course may be the case. But as has been pointed out already if his employment ended today then the cost should be reflected in the 30/6/25 numbers.

 

Why now? If the payment needs to be in the 24/25 numbers then it should have happened earlier

If it needs to be in 25/26 then why not delay it till early next week. Would you put it past the club to account for it when the payment actually is made as opposed to the period his employment ended? 

Are the 24/25 numbers that close to the wire or who knows perhaps they are better than being predicted if so back to my question why delay it till now ?

It may of course be that the 25/26 projection due on 30/6/25 is the worry in that if it’s paid in 25/26 the numbers won’t balance and with that the EFL could well impose other and earlier sanctions 

 

 

Edited 27 June 2025 by Terraloon

[coolhandfox]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Don't think it should solely be on Ruud that this happened, more a case of the club as a whole and the players ability to perform.

 

It's not like he had a massive amount of talent to choose from.

In a 130 odd years of league football in the top 4 divison no one has gone 9 home games with scoring.

 

How may crap, rancid squads there have been in that time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[coolhandfox]

6 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Saying the club didn't back him doesn't equate to defending him. Just saying. 

So why are you saying it? 

 

For what reason? 

[whoareyaaa]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

In a 130 odd years of league football in the top 4 divison no one has gone 9 home games with scoring.

 

How may crap, rancid squads there have been in that time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This one was the worst as proven by the stats of not scoring in 9 home games.

[coolhandfox]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

This one was the worst as proven by the stats of not scoring in 9 home games.

The mental gymnastics people are coming up with to defend RVN.

 

Sure your not a closet Red Devil? 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

The mental gymnastics people are coming up with to defend RVN.

 

Sure your not a closet Red Devil? 

Just accept the fact the squad was not good enough and the manager was not very good either but got dealt a bad hand anyway

[StanSP]

10 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

So why are you saying it? 

 

For what reason? 

Because it goes to show the problems are also beyond RVN. Surely you can see and appreciate that? 

 

The club is in the shit. RVN was just a small faulty cog within the whole machine. 

 

I don't think it's difficult to grasp. 

[winteriscoming]

I don’t think you can go and change the manager and expect everything to be fine. 
Ruud was absolutely dreadful but those above him and majority of the players are also to blame. 
I still think there’s an arrogance at the club when there really shouldn’t be one.