MPH Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 6 minutes ago, Guest said: Not according to the EFL regulations you don't. If we wanted to appoint King we could do so because he has the A Licence, which is what you need to manage in the Championship. Fortunately, because that would be mental, we haven't. Pro course takes 18 months and a season is less than that and so clubs in the champ demand their managers have it so that they are not forced to sack the manager when they get to the prem .
dmayne7 Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 11 minutes ago, st albans fox said: That is how I understand it. gardening leave means you’re paid to do nothing but you remain an employee until a specified date. I reckon qpr thought that someone would come for him so decided it was in their interest to keep him in employment so that any comp clause remained valid. (Maybe for six months ??) High risk but actually a pretty smart move.
slymunn Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 1 minute ago, dmayne7 said: High risk but actually a pretty smart move. Chelsea do this with managers to avoid the pay offs. I'm sure they keep paying wages till the manager finds a new job, rather than the big pay off, which is why Potter went so long without going back into work. 1
Popular Post JonnyBoy Posted 10 July 2025 Popular Post Posted 10 July 2025 anyone who pays his compensation off and takes a pay cut because he is so enthusiastic about the project can get on board, absolutely the sort of character we need at the moment. Gerrim'in 5
dmayne7 Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 Just now, slymunn said: Chelsea do this with managers to avoid the pay offs. I'm sure they keep paying wages till the manager finds a new job, rather than the big pay off, which is why Potter went so long without going back into work. Makes sense for them because if you've managed Chelsea, then loads of clubs will want you, even if out of employment for ages. Whereas as Championship manager with limited success (done a good job still), is less attractive a proposition plus any compensation could then become prohibitive for the hiring club.
Stadt Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 8 minutes ago, Scotch said: Yes but unfortunately there is only one John Rudkin and WE have him. Say £5m and £500k signing on is probably better than loaning him paying £500k-£1m in a loan fee, 50% of the wages now and then spending £4m on a signing bonus anyway. Agents have clubs over a barrel with signing on fees this days when players are free agents. There is also the risk that you loan him and you're then gazumped by a bigger club when he's a free agent. Lille, Monaco, Marseille, Nice etc have the money provided he takes a bit of a wage cut but given he's homesick apparently he probably would. It's sort of moot though as Rudkin doesn't proactively sell anyone
Guest Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 6 minutes ago, MPH said: Pro course takes 18 months and a season is less than that and so clubs in the champ demand their managers have it so that they are not forced to sack the manager when they get to the prem . Happily, as long as you're actively in the process of obtaining the Pro Licence - which we know King is - you can still manage in the Premier League, again according to their regulations. I sense this is a waste of time so you crack on. 1
RedSoxUK Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 Played 4231 mostly with QPR, their RB looks to have done well and got forward a lot. Can't see Ricardo doing that if he stays. Wonder if we're more likely to see Ricardo as a right sided midfielder (alongside Winks, sorry everyone,) more permanently, and have Woyo as the rapid RB.
ClaphamFox Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 2 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: Played 4231 mostly with QPR, their RB looks to have done well and got forward a lot. Can't see Ricardo doing that if he stays. Wonder if we're more likely to see Ricardo as a right sided midfielder (alongside Winks, sorry everyone,) more permanently, and have Woyo as the rapid RB. Why sorry? He's a very good Championship player. albeit nothing special at PL level. If he has another season for us like he did in 23/24, we'll have one of the best midfielders in the division. 1
Scotch Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 8 minutes ago, Stadt said: Say £5m and £500k signing on is probably better than loaning him paying £500k-£1m in a loan fee, 50% of the wages now and then spending £4m on a signing bonus anyway. Agents have clubs over a barrel with signing on fees this days when players are free agents. There is also the risk that you loan him and you're then gazumped by a bigger club when he's a free agent. Lille, Monaco, Marseille, Nice etc have the money provided he takes a bit of a wage cut but given he's homesick apparently he probably would. It's sort of moot though as Rudkin doesn't proactively sell anyone But you are missing this from SOUMARE'S perspective. Why would he agree to a permanent transfer for lower wages NOW when he can have us pay him his full wage for a year and command more in wages/SO fee next season? A loan is the only real compromise.... We get some sort of (loan) fee for him as opposed to losing him for nothing. We also get at least some of his wages off the books. The loan club get to pay less wages now and potentially buy him for free next year after a test run. He gets a big sign on fee next year, big wages this year and first team football this season.
MPH Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 7 minutes ago, Guest said: Happily, as long as you're actively in the process of obtaining the Pro Licence - which we know King is - you can still manage in the Premier League, again according to their regulations. I sense this is a waste of time so you crack on. Have a good day 1
sylofox Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 1 hour ago, Merchant_Banker said: If he is earning less money this year than at QPR because we have agreed to repay the amount he has paid to QPR as a signing on fee of some sort. He will be on significant bonuses to get us promoted and will also get a significant rise in the PL. He ain't getting many bonuses or a prem wage next season. 1 hour ago, Fox seen in Norwich said: Buy cheap, buy twice Well I'll blow that theory out the window. Mahrez and Vardy. 1
Merchant_Banker Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 I think I read somewhere that King had said that he wasn't ready for the Leicester job yet, but he wanted it at some stage in the future. 1
MPH Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 If we sign him today, there’s still time for us to hijack the Ageymang to Derby deal!!! He’s only part way through his medical… 1 1
FoxinNotts Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 2 minutes ago, MPH said: If we sign him today, there’s still time for us to hijack the Ageymang to Derby deal!!! He’s only part way through his medical… Never change mate 1
TrentFox Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 It all makes perfect sense …. we’re crying out for someone to unite the club and bring everyone and everything together. I can picture it now. Just before kick-off vs Wednesday and 24,000 people rise to their feet as one and sing ……. “who the fu@k&ng hell are you?” Dawn of a new era. Let joy be unconfined.
Langston Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 37 minutes ago, Scotch said: I honestly think you are overestimating how badly clubs will want a player who has been dreadful here and will demand MASSIVE wages when they can essentially ters drive him for a year in loan first. I said it's not beyond the realms of possibility, not a certainty.. I'm not overestimating anything..
lcfcbluearmy Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Not sure you can loan players in the last year of their contract but I might be mistaken. Pretty sure it's fine as long as they have 6 months left on there contract so could be loaned out until Jan. I'm pretty sure this is the rule but haven't checked so just from memory
Finnegan Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 31 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: You didn't tag this as AI. 4
Stadt Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 21 minutes ago, Scotch said: But you are missing this from SOUMARE'S perspective. Why would he agree to a permanent transfer for lower wages NOW when he can have us pay him his full wage for a year and command more in wages/SO fee next season? A loan is the only real compromise.... We get some sort of (loan) fee for him as opposed to losing him for nothing. We also get at least some of his wages off the books. The loan club get to pay less wages now and potentially buy him for free next year after a test run. He gets a big sign on fee next year, big wages this year and first team football this season. If he doesn't want to play in the Championship - he didn't last time, then he'd want to move. Given he seemingly wants to move back to France then a loan move there isn't guaranteed. Players take paycuts more than you think, they likely know they're never going to get a deal on the same terms again. His move here has been a nightmare and being settled elsewhere is likely better than an additional 20k p/w for a season. Even if we don't sell him for £5m ish, sell him for £3m get him and his wages off the books entirely. I don't want another Perez situation where loan a player out just for them to leave for nothingwhen their deal expires.
Popular Post Aleksz Posted 10 July 2025 Popular Post Posted 10 July 2025 17 minutes ago, MPH said: If we sign him today, there’s still time for us to hijack the Ageymang to Derby deal!!! He’s only part way through his medical… This guy? 9
Mickyblueeyes Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 Nice to hear of someone very keen to come here. There had been an issue of some in recent years who haven’t really “played/worked for the badge” - this is a huge job for him and the biggest he has ever had. He’ll run himself into the ground trying and expect those around him to do the same - this is a very important factor for where we currently are. Here’s hoping he does so well, next year Chelsea approach us for him
cityfanlee23 Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: And getting promoted then finishing 12th twice in La Liga are quite good indicators. Of course, we need to use them as indicators but also need to look into the context of each club, on paper Iraola's career showed no real indication he was going to have Bournemouth in the top 6 for most of the season. Win Percentages and club names don't always paint the full picture. 1
lcfcbluearmy Posted 10 July 2025 Posted 10 July 2025 1 hour ago, Chelmofox said: Wholeheartedly disagree. That isn't a thing this time, especially if we focus on nurturing the youth talent which is the right thing to do. Playoffs would be a good result for us, with a view that as the young players mature and improve they become much more of a force then next 2 seasons, Depends what your priority is, if your priority is to get immediate promotion then we do still have a squad that should have the ability to pretty much comfortably get automatic promotion without too much trouble. However this probably means focusing on playing the established players (which a lot are not good enough for the prem) and sacrificing youth development. So ots a short term solution. I'd you focus on playing and developing the youth our squad is initially weaker and I agree playoffs would be a good result especially with a points deduction. However in the longer term this is probably the strategy that would pay off more as the younger players improve and our squad gets better or we get big money for them when we sell them. So it depends on whether the club prioritise promotion (short term) or squad development (longer term) 1
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