KBet (still working on exact company!)

[HankMarvin]

18 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Seriously? 

 

The repercussions of this, after the BC Game one are not ****ing worth the bit extra over a deal with a legitimate company. 

 

They seen the reaction last season from the fans. I can't believe I'm reading someone still stick up for these clowns. 

I personally couldn’t give a shit about the sponsors, fans will be in uproar about the next thing if not this.

no transfers, failing PSR.

It just moves on to the next thing. 
Clearly it’s a club in free fall, with failing after failing.

 

 

How do you know it’s not worth the extra?

You don’t know what they have paid in the Championship, this is a club that couldn’t sack the manager till the next financial year and are rumoured to have baulked

on a release figure for Rohl. 

In an ideal world we wouldn’t have to go this route, but it’s not like we don’t have form.

As I previously said nobody questioned the ethics back in 2013/14 when we were getting promoted due to dodgy sponsorship deals.

it all faded into the background with the success that followed.

Edited 14 July 2025 by HankMarvin

[Blue-fox]

If the club need the money, which I suspect they do, we have to take the highest bidder. 

[jammie82uk]

Just now, Blue-fox said:

If the club need the money, which I suspect they do, we have to take the highest bidder. 

From a company that didn’t exist 3 months ago? Despite claims on the website A company that doesn’t appear to have any betting licenses at all

 

 

[Dan]

It's the same people with the same lack of accountability. Complete madness to expect anything other than the same results.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

I personally couldn’t give a shit about the sponsors, fans will be in uproar about the next thing if not this.

no transfers, failing PSR.

It just moves on to the next thing. 
Clearly it’s a club in free fall, with failing after failing.

 

 

How do you know it’s not worth the extra?

You don’t know what they have paid in the Championship, this is a club that couldn’t sack the manager till the next financial year and are rumoured to have baulked

on a release figure for Rohl. 

In an ideal world we wouldn’t have to go this route, but it’s not like we don’t have form.

As I previously said nobody questioned the ethics back in 2013/14 when we were getting promoted due to dodgy sponsorship deals.

it all faded into the background with the success that followed.

I questioned a hell of a lot about the way we went up. You can read back in my posts how critical I am of the ownership even leading up to the success that followed. It was careless and we could have had dire consequences.

 

I don't equate the success that happened down to an amazing well run club from the top. Far from it. 

 

What the **** is your argument that we'll just moan about the next thing if not this? As if failing PSR year after year and running the club into the ground aren't things we should be up in arms about. 

Edited 15 July 2025 by Gamble92

[Gamble92]

16 hours ago, Blue-fox said:

If the club need the money, which I suspect they do, we have to take the highest bidder. 

Are you aware of the kinds of repercussions this could have if it's as dodgy as it looks? 

 

Some of the charges Man City face are because they found that companies were set up a few months before sponsoring them. 

 

You absolutely shouldn't just go for the highest bidder even if we want to believe that's what this is. They aren't the highest bidder anyway, it's a dodgy as **** scam by our owners.

[Claudio Fannieri]

7 hours ago, st albans fox said:

   Not seeing a ‘happy ending’ with this one

the club would argue that this is the only way they can get additional investment into the business and avoid more psr sanctions. If other clubs are doing this’s then it becomes a case of do it or drop further behind.  The glass half full view is at least it shows that king power are putting max capital into the club that they are allowed to. (And effectively more).  The moral aspect is clear though. 

are championship clubs doing this in the same way as PL ones do?  I could see the EFL chomping at the bit to take us to the cleaners on something like this. 

I agree to a point the problem is the club do it which really makes a lot of fans unhappy and then spaff that additional sponsor revenue on utter muck like Ayew, Skipp, BDCR and Eduoard. 
 

Being honest I would rather have less revenue than be involved with some of our more recent partners, and the fact our transfer business is so poor just exacerbates what a mess we are in. 
 

I wonder what wonders we will waste our money on this time, can’t wait until we unveil Max Lowe, Angus Gunn and Alex Oxlaide Chanberlain on multi year contracts with the proceeds of yet another sponsorship deal that drives an ever bigger gulf between the club and its fanbase. 

Edited 15 July 2025 by Claudio Fannieri

[SemperEadem]

7 hours ago, Sly said:

Can you all unite to release a joint statement condemning this please? 
 

Along with support from @Foxestalk as well, then we can generate a massive backlash. 

Pride wont go against the club. 
 

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 minute ago, SemperEadem said:

Pride wont go against the club. 
 

It’s delusional to hope they might. Can’t lose all those free tickets 

[Gazza M]

Another shirt Monga can't wear. Given the choice I think many players would rather wear a blank top also. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Just like so much at the club our sponsorship deals have become a sad reflection of where we are, lazy, stale and lacking any awareness of impact this will have across the fanbase. As long as the cash rolls in that’s all that matters. 

[SemperEadem]

1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Just like so much at the club our sponsorship deals have become a sad reflection of where we are, lazy, stale and lacking any awareness of impact this will have across the fanbase. As long as the cash rolls in that’s all that matters. 

Three currently with soon going to four Asian betting partners.

[FoxesTez]

Sadly a big portion of our fan base will continue to defend the indefensible. 
 

When is the next FAB @Foxes_Trust? Please make sure this is tabled as an agenda item, I understand the club will not discuss commercials but they should be presented with the facts and should outline their DD process (yes I know there won't be any). 

Edited 15 July 2025 by FoxesTez

[MattFox]

Even the KPFC diehards are a bit sus on this one

 

 

[Tommy G]

Yet the club shop will be rammed with people buying it.

 

 

[st albans fox]

15 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Are you aware of the kinds of repercussions this could have if it's as dodgy as it looks? 

 

Some of the charges Man City face are because they found that companies were set up a few months before sponsoring them. 

 

You absolutely shouldn't just go for the highest bidder even if we want to believe that's what this is. They aren't the highest bidder anyway, it's a dodgy as **** scam by our owners.

I appreciate this post as addressing the elephants filling the room atm 

none of us know the depth of the financial mess that the club is in

 

the fact that they’re doing deals like this to drive an additional (not allowed) owner funded 10m/annum into the club last season (and probably 5m this ) shows how much shite we’re in on psr.  The idea that these funds are also of illegal origin is not something I’d considered. what is the basis for this idea? 

[ALC Fox]

PSR compliant*

Morally bankrupt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*situation pending

[Scotch]

[Edingleyfox]

Ultimately I in common with many wouldn’t buy a club shirt that promotes gambling so it is a bit short sighted in that respect. The club will waste a lot of the revenue anyway looking at last year’s business. Can the club not go back to companies we can identify with like Walkers crisps etc!! 

[K789]

If you can't beat them join them. Football is broken and unfortunately deals like this are required 

[Scotch]

17 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I appreciate this post as addressing the elephants filling the room atm 

none of us know the depth of the financial mess that the club is in

 

the fact that they’re doing deals like this to drive an additional (not allowed) owner funded 10m/annum into the club last season (and probably 5m this ) shows how much shite we’re in on psr.  The idea that these funds are also of illegal origin is not something I’d considered. what is the basis for this idea? 

The fact that the company who provides these funds has very little to no online presence (which is strange for a company that operates solely online) and only seemed to pop up a month or towards ago. Their head office address seems to be a slum, somewhere in Malaysia and and they are only licensed in Caracao where I can buy a gaming license for relatively cheap and the whole process takes 4 weeks. 

[Guest Lako42]

Can people stop talking about Due diligence when it comes to these deals FFS.

 

 

The club know full well what they are doing, they aren't genuinely thinking they are getting into a deal with a great company.  

 

 

They benefit from this, it is quite possibly just a big money washing operation. 

 

 

They do not give a **** about reputation of these businesses they have set-up themselves. 

Edited 15 July 2025 by Lako42

[ClaphamFox]

2 minutes ago, Edingleyfox said:

Ultimately I in common with many wouldn’t buy a club shirt that promotes gambling so it is a bit short sighted in that respect. The club will waste a lot of the revenue anyway looking at last year’s business. Can the club not go back to companies we can identify with like Walkers crisps etc!! 

Those kind of companies do not offer enough money. The reason that so many clubs have taken out sponsorship deals with obscure foreign betting/trading companies that aren’t licensed to operate in the UK is because they are subject to ludicrous PSR restrictions that make it very hard for smaller and medium-sized clubs to compete. The authorities have created the conditions that have led to this by introducing a system that is blatantly biased towards the richer clubs. You may well believe that our club should take a moral stand and refuse to take part, even if it means handing rival clubs an advantage (and that is fair enough), but it isn’t hard to understand why such deals occur. The main culprit here is PSR, which is deeply unfair and not fit for purpose. 

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, Scotch said:

The fact that the company who provides these funds has very little to no online presence (which is strange for a company that operates solely online) and only seemed to pop up a month or towards ago. Their head office address seems to be a slum, somewhere in Malaysia and and they are only licensed in Caracao where I can buy a gaming license for relatively cheap and the whole process takes 4 weeks. 

I’m not seeing what you’re seeing 

From my perspective, K bet is simply a conduit to pass funds from king power/the family into the football club.  The rules only allow a certain amount to be invested by owners. This arrangement gets around that. Effectively, Top gives £15m to Kbet and they conveniently sponsor us to the tune of 15m.  My question is why would the 15m sent through by the family be questionable in its origins? 

 

[foxfanazer]

It's alright saying "if you can't beat them, join them" but we don't even benefit from it. We'll continue to break PSR rules despite signing shit players if any players at all. Nobody at the club seems to have an ounce of business acumen 

Edited 15 July 2025 by foxfanazer