Richard Kone

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, South Shire Fox said:

Theres no way you can start Ayew as a striker this season. Has zero pace whatsoever to get behind. Would of thought he’d be used more in Bilals behind the striker role when/if hes sold

He does lack pace but would be clynical at this level would rather him as an impact sub for Kone though 

[murphy]

5 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

He does lack pace but would be clynical at this level would rather him as an impact sub for Kone though 

Impact sub?  I think you just mean sub.

[Sunbury Fox]

6 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

Theres no way you can start Ayew as a striker this season. Has zero pace whatsoever to get behind. Would of thought he’d be used more in Bilals behind the striker role when/if hes sold

Not sure pace in behind is going to be that important in Marti's system and in any case most teams will be parking the bus against us. 

[Finnegan]

5 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Not sure pace in behind is going to be that important in Marti's system and in any case most teams will be parking the bus against us. 

 

Pace in behind is a large part of how you stretch a defence. 

 

One of the biggest differences between Daka and Vardy or Iheanacho playing last time out was how much Daka moved the defence around without the ball. 

 

He had and has the pace to drop right in to the midfield to be the first receiver from Hermansen or take a pass from Vestergaard (forcing their centre backs and defensive midfielders to make decisions on tracking him), then spin and go and in a few seconds be heading behind the defensive line. 

 

The verticality he can bring to our play just with mobility and work rate pulls and stretches their defence back and forth and forces them to make decisions they don't want to. 

 

Ayew holds the ball up better but he also slows it down and offers very little challenge in terms of his movement for defenders to cover. 

 

If Fatawu and Mavididi are to overlap beyond him, he's definitely the best "false 9" we currently have but that's not saying a lot. 

 

A new striker definitely should have a decent amount of pace. If a team is going to park the bus, you need all the movement you can get to force them to stretch and come out of position. 

 

[moore_94]

5 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Not sure pace in behind is going to be that important in Marti's system and in any case most teams will be parking the bus against us. 

Needs pace to be able to press properly though

[LestaLad]

I reckon we hear something on this today..

[Finnegan]

Just now, LestaLad said:

I reckon we hear something on this today..

 

"Wycombe Wanderer's young Ivorian striker has today confirmed his move to South Wales."

[AKCJ]

14 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

**** me, bet Rudkin reads this and gets excited that McBurnie is available.

Rudkin has £50k a week for the next 4 years with McBurnie's name on it.

[iancognito]

13 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

He does lack pace but would be clynical at this level would rather him as an impact sub for Kone though 

I don't know what people see in him to base this on. Guy next to me on Sunday said he was happy to see him up top because he's a natural finisher.

 

He's shown no movement, finishing ability or desire.

[Mickyblueeyes]

As raw as Vards when he first came in. If not more. Absolutely should be doing this sort of deal, we’ve not done as many recently because of where we were but in doing this deal, with the lads “rawness” he might need a season or two to bed in. Vards came in (if I remember rightly) with Nugent and Wood (post Jan) covering - do we have the same support this time. 

[stu]

6 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Rudkin has £50k a week for the next 4 years with McBurnie's name on it.

Joining Hull, thankfully!

[LestaLad]

9 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

"Wycombe Wanderer's young Ivorian striker has today confirmed his move to South Wales."

That would still be hearing something, so I wouldn’t be wrong! 

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, iancognito said:

I don't know what people see in him to base this on. Guy next to me on Sunday said he was happy to see him up top because he's a natural finisher.

 

He's shown no movement, finishing ability or desire.

 

Ayew, natural finisher,

 

Jordan "scored double figures once in my life and it was in Ligue 1 over a decade ago" Ayew?

 

[CloudFox]

8 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

"Wycombe Wanderer's young Ivorian striker has today confirmed his move to South Wales."

"Sky Sports can confirm a late bid by Leicester City was rejected by The Chairboys, on the grounds that Jordan Ayew and a packet of skittles would have negatively impacted their PSR calculations for the season."

[AKCJ]

10 minutes ago, iancognito said:

I don't know what people see in him to base this on. Guy next to me on Sunday said he was happy to see him up top because he's a natural finisher.

 

He's shown no movement, finishing ability or desire.

It is incredible how some people view the game.

 

There's a bloke near me who thinks the only important thing for a striker is pace. Loves Daka. Thought Musa was treated unfairly. Thinks Ulloa is a carthorse etc etc.

 

Ayew has plenty of genuinely good attributes needed to be a moderately successful striker at this level. But he's slow, doesn't press, lacks a goalscoring instinct and isn't a great dribbler.

 

He'll be absolutely perfect to bring off the bench. Someone that can look after the ball, draw fouls, bring our talented wingers into play etc.

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Ayew has plenty of genuinely good attributes needed to be a moderately successful striker at this level. But he's slow, doesn't press, lacks a goalscoring instinct and isn't a great dribbler.

 

 

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

Plenty of good ones.... if you ignore the absolutely shit ones  I take your point

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Who is actually still in for him since that BBC article saying Swansea are unlikely to get him? Open goal for us surely, but I would suspect we need Ndidi out first which could be an issue given how many times he's u turned. 

[teblin]

Did we have any kind of sell on for KDH? Might give us some funds for this.

[FrankieADZ]

5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Who is actually still in for him since that BBC article saying Swansea are unlikely to get him? Open goal for us surely, but I would suspect we need Ndidi out first which could be an issue given how many times he's u turned. 

a few foreign clubs, Preston had a bid rejected, some on socials are saying QPR as well

 

not sure if Preston or QPR are in for in tho really, hopefully we'll hear more today

[Spudulike]

Just now, teblin said:

Did we have any kind of sell on for KDH? Might give us some funds for this.

The figures quoted would suggest that Chelsea haven't made any profit, so no money for us.

[Finnegan]

8 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Plenty of good ones.... if you ignore the absolutely shit ones  I take your point

 

Bit like some muppet reeling off every one of Patson Daka's positive underlying stats and refusing to acknowledge he doesn't score ****ing goals.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

4 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

a few foreign clubs, Preston had a bid rejected, some on socials are saying QPR as well

 

not sure if Preston or QPR are in for in tho really, hopefully we'll hear more today

Surely Preston and QPR can't pay that kind of fee. Confirms my thinking that he's ours if we actually want him. 

[Pliskin]

10 minutes ago, teblin said:

Did we have any kind of sell on for KDH? Might give us some funds for this.

We don’t need to generate funds for £5m…. For a player in league one, if we did, we would probably be in a worse state than Sheffield Wednesday………

[Ian Nacho]

I'd take Arouna Kone at this rate.