Lack of leadership on the pitch

[sdb]

Captains so far this season: Justin, Hamza, Mavididi

 

Think that says it all

[Foxdiamond]

2 hours ago, Chief Keef said:

I think since we lost Morgan and Fuchs, then Kasper, in back to back summers we’ve lacked any real leaders in the squad. 

Nobody anywhere near the quality of these 3 currently available to us. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

It's concerning that we're supposedly focusing on youth this season but have nobody on the pitch to help nurture them.

 

Look at Winks body language yesterday, then you have Faes giving shit to his own fans, Vesty has previous. Ayew is a senior player but not exactly inspiring. Hamza probably still boozes more than he plays and you've got us finishing with Mavadidi as captain 

 

Not a good mix really. The culture and fall out from last season is going to be hard to shift.

[Aleksz]

Choices on captain are a bit bizarre at the minute, players have just been handed it based on how long they've been here. Vestergaard shouldn't be anywhere near the armband yet took it vs Weds, Mavididi taking it last night once Hamza went off.

 

Doesn't look like much thought or creativity has actually gone in to this "leadership group" at all. 

[JonnyBoy]

forget on the pitch, we have no leadership anywhere in the club. Culture stems from top down and we are a mess every angle you look. It's hideous 

[Manwell Pablo]

We're just not very good, and that's down to a lot of things starting at right at the top.

 

I've seen nothing, albeit we are very early on, that suggests we are going to trouble the promotion race this season. Thinning the squad down needs to be done, we need more out than in although we must definitely do need to two or three quality additions in order to look anything like promotion material (Leadership is a good point but the tip of the iceberg and it's hard to just go out and by someone who is going to walk straight through the door and instantly provide that) and I have about as much faith in our setup delivering the players we need as Alan Sheehans defending (Sorry if you're reading again Al)

[Finn Claw II]

Faes, Vesty, Winks should all have been captain material but are not and at least two of those don’t want to be here.

 

Souttar could well be a leader once the current lot are gone and he is fit but he probably won’t play.

 

I’d be tempted with Ayew or just retiring the captain’s armband until we have someone who deserves it!

[deep blue]

3 hours ago, Foxes1 said:

Think one of the problems last night when Monga got booked not one player went over to give him support alright I know he dived but someone should have gone over to him to tell him to be careful

I thought exactly the same.  Was disappointed.  Young players need advice in certain situations.

[winteriscoming]

Lack of quality as well. 
Look at the senior players they’re either injury prone - Ricardo, don’t want to be here - winks or not good enough and have a high opinion of themselves - Vesty, Faes and Choudury. Obviously I think Hamza just isn’t good enough. 

[lee7]

3 hours ago, Collymore said:

This seems to have been an issue now for a very long time but with the loss of Vardy seems even more apparent. 

 

We just have no one on the pitch anymore who leads, shows grit, holds others to account and would give anything to get over the line. 

 

The captain's armband has been passed around like pass the parcel.

 

Take someone like Hamza, who you might think could tick some of the right boxes - he goes to ground and gives a way a very silly penalty and the whole team just hasn't got a clue about seeing a game out. 

 

Imagine Winks being allowed to sulk like that or Soumare putting in such a poor performance under some of our warriors in the past!

 

Troubling times. 

 

 

 

I agree completely. 

 

We have no one who stands out as being a natural leader from the players who are currently fit. 

 

Marti has taken on a squad that contains players that were either desperate to leave or they have stayed but they are sulking. 

 

In an ideal world neither Faes or Winks would be anywhere near the starting 11 with their current attitudes. 

 

 

[Winstonthedog]

2 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

Says it all that I think Faes or Vestergaard are probably the nearest thing we have to captain  

When Ricardo isn't playing of course. 

Ricardo as decent player as he is should never be offered the armband until is able to prove his fitness .... looking around the others in the squad I don’t see a leader ... which is a poor reflection on the squad as a whole 

[Les-TA-Jon]

4 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

I know we like to rewrite history, but Vardy offered no leadership on the pitch.

Totally agree - although he showed it a bit towards the end of promotion under Maresca

[Cincinnati Fox]

It’s the whole culture at the club, lack of responsibility from top to bottom.

 

When coady came in everyone said it’s what we need etc etc but it’s bigger than one man, how did that go??

truth is the whole place just stinks of no accountability, 

it will never happen but we need a total culture change.

[Winstonthedog]

7 minutes ago, Cincinnati Fox said:

It’s the whole culture at the club, lack of responsibility from top to bottom.

 

When coady came in everyone said it’s what we need etc etc but it’s bigger than one man, how did that go??

truth is the whole place just stinks of no accountability, 

it will never happen but we need a total culture change.

I also thought Coady would make a difference with his leadership .... if you read this Connor.... you were a total fu#king dissapointment and some 

[broughtonblue]

You only have to look at the insta of some players, massive egos, massive money, think they have made it and are big time charlies.  

Football seems to be a by product to money and fame, not the other way round

[sylofox]

The whole club needs cleansing literally from Top to bottom (no pun intended).

 

Other than 2 or 3 players and some of the kids it's totally infected. The only way this changes is with a total clear out of Owner all senior management and 90% of playing staff.

 

You can just see Top going home after a game crying to his Mrs  " nobody likes me it's not fair"

 

Then on the phone " Mummy they've been singing songs about me and Rudkin again" still crying.

 

We all hate what's happening to our club and we all moan. But nothing will change until the idiots at the top have changed. The saddest thing about all of this is a huge number of us can see this. But we can't do feck all about it. Those at the top are the blind leading the blind. Oh and don't get me started on the KP fan club willy pullers.

[Collymore]

20 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

I also thought Coady would make a difference with his leadership .... if you read this Connor.... you were a total fu#king dissapointment and some 

I remember that video he did with Bobby Reid where he basically just blew smoke up his arse for 10 mins telling Bobby what a great player he was and how lucky Leicester were to have him. Absolute satire. 

[st albans fox]

This thread is scarily on point 

 

 

[Lesta2014]

The way football is now captain aren’t leaders like they used to be! Tony Adams, Roy Keane, Steve Walsh, Steven Gerrard, John Terry, instantly all spring to mind of being strong demanding captains and also playing with their heart on there sleeve. I can’t think of any premier league captains currently who are natural leaders like the ones listed above! 

[Richmondfox]

4 hours ago, EnderbyFox said:

Imagine we had someone with this attitude (and the temperament to back it up)

 

Apart from Ricardo who do we have as a professional role model? Or someone that will speak up and say the things people don’t want to hear, even if it’s better for the team and the individual.

I don’t think we have anyone who wants to rock the boat.  How long would Xhaka stand with a coworker like Soumare? 

 

Remember when Maddison dived early on and got sent off, he said the senior players hammered him.

 

Who has Monga got to look up to and learn from?  Hope he isn’t developing the bad traits from Ayew and Mavadidi.  He is young and has no one of talent around him.  Abdul needs that person for his own development.
 

I’m not laying into Monga, but it looks like he’s picked a few shitty things from them already.  That’s down to lack of authority and leadership. He needs an Albrighton type figure. 

[sylofox]

7 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

The way football is now captain aren’t leaders like they used to be! Tony Adams, Roy Keane, Steve Walsh, Steven Gerrard, John Terry, instantly all spring to mind of being strong demanding captains and also playing with their heart on there sleeve. I can’t think of any premier league captains currently who are natural leaders like the ones listed above! 

Much as we all hate the cvnt Oh for a Roy Kean right now.

 

You could just see him chasing Rudkin out of the club.

[Manwell Pablo]

2 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Lack of quality as well. 
Look at the senior players they’re either injury prone - Ricardo, don’t want to be here - winks or not good enough and have a high opinion of themselves - Vesty, Faes and Choudury. Obviously I think Hamza just isn’t good enough. 

 

He's not the biggest problem, has played a part in a promotion winning team here before and was well thought of at Sheffield United....No PL player IMO but put the right parts around him in the Championship and he'll do a job.

 

Which is more than can be said for other members of the squad. 

[winteriscoming]

10 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

He's not the biggest problem, has played a part in a promotion winning team here before and was well thought of at Sheffield United....No PL player IMO but put the right parts around him in the Championship and he'll do a job.

 

Which is more than can be said for other members of the squad. 

Will he though? 
If they thought so highly of him they’d of signed him. 
Apart one motm display against west brom in the championship where he blocked and tackled everyone he doesn’t offer anything either creative or attacking wise. 
1 decent game out of prob 20 starts isn’t enough. 
Baffles me why we gave him a contract extension. 

[Muzzy_no7]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Extremely frightening that Mavididi ended up with the armband last night.

 

I've said it before but you could tell we were building a good squad in 2017-2019 because we were signing captains. Pretty much everyone in that squad that went 5th back to back was captain material.

 

Right now there are such few players that could realistically lead this squad. We need to get back to that mentality of signing leaders (and not fake talkers like Coady). 

 

It's one of the reasons I would like us to get Josh Brownhill. 

Mavididi with the armband 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Muzzy_no7]

3 hours ago, sdb said:

Captains so far this season: Justin, Hamza, Mavididi

 

Think that says it all

Yeah this is absolutely disgusting