Cifuentes OUT

[Spanner73]

14 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Frustrating that he’s not doing himself any favours and it’ll lead to him being sacked because none of this is his fault.

 

Put Guardiola on the touch line and it won’t make any difference. You can’t polish a turd and this squad is full of them.

 

But to appease the morons that follow us, he will be sacked and it’ll buy King Power a month or two.

Spot on ! 
 

Same old story 

 

You can imagine a 3 way conversation with Marti, Cooper & RVN as I’m sure they’d have a lot in common. 
 

Aiyawatt give it up lad and ride away on your horse 
 

 

[cityfanlee23]

14 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Frustrating that he’s not doing himself any favours and it’ll lead to him being sacked because none of this is his fault.

 

Put Guardiola on the touch line and it won’t make any difference. You can’t polish a turd and this squad is full of them.

 

But to appease the morons that follow us, he will be sacked and it’ll buy King Power a month or two.

Have to be honest i'm surprised because I usually agree with most of what you say, I know we have problems beyond the manager, but Guardiola would have this squad absolutely miles clear of where we are now. I do get your point and I hope you're being hyperbolic, but the manager can make an absolutely massive difference in making the exact same player play 5% better. 

[Fazzer 7]

He's out of his depth. GET HIM OUT. 

[Les-TA-Jon]

10 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

I will die on the hill that RVN would have been far more ruthless in driving the "old guard" out of the club and would comfortably have put up in a better position than we currently find ourselves. We had an identity issue and RVN was often accused of not blooding the youth in enough and those were fair assessments, but he identified very quickly a mentality issue at the club and was actively trying to stamp it out, we ended the season positively and beat what we expected to be our two biggest rivals this season comfortably. Everyone knows who my first choice was, but I took a fair bit of stick for saying I wouldn't be too angry if we just stuck it out with RVN because he at least showed there was some sort of tactical plan that he had at PSV and in the few games he had at United. 

I had multiple QPR fans tell me Marti doesn't have a plan and that he was rapidly declining amongst the fanbase. I took that as just disgruntled fans that MC had spoken with another club before being put on gardening leave. Give me RVN over this any day of the week and twice on Sundays. 

There are still plenty of forward-thinking managers who would join us and we need to take the leap before it's too late. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

No, but it gives us more of a chance to stay in the division to fix them. Right now we are declining rapidly, all players have clearly lost belief in whatever the hell MC is trying to do, and at a time where our players are at their lowest confidence and morale is low, we could get a massive points deduction. 

It's as much a gamble keeping him on than letting him go at this point. It doesn't take a huge shift in the general environment around the club for a club like us to suddenly start doing a Luton or Sheffield United earlier in the season, this could spiral out of control very quickly. 

Hadn't RVN gotten to the exact place you describe about MC's current situation? 

 

As I say, I agree we're awful. I think us being in or close to a relegation battle is exactly the reason the club would change managers. Otherwise I don't think they'll sack MC. 

[RoboFox]

4 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think Marti can save himself, and I would look closely at what Southampton are doing... moved away from heavy possession and concentrating on hitting teams hard and fast on transition. Replace Scizenza, Azaz, Fellows and Armstrong with Mavididi, Ramsey / BDR, Fatawu, Daka and Ramsey. This team is never going to be world beaters, but IMO you could get a much better tune out of them than what we are seeing. 

Why play fast, dynamic, exciting football when you can play the ball up and down the back four 50 times? 

 

Marti's from Barcelona, you know. 

[ceebeefox]

3 hours ago, Noahfence said:

He isn’t the biggest problem I think we’ve established that. 
 

But to not have a single good performance as we approach December is ridiculous. 

 

We've been rubbish in every game and individual quality is the only reason we have the points we do. 
 

I was honestly very worried about him at HT open game of the season. 
 

 

Can’t remember the single good performance. I think we’ve been poor all season and could conceivably have lost every game.

[StriderHiryu]

4 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Why play fast, dynamic, exciting football when you can play the ball up and down the back four 50 times? 

 

Marti's from Barcelona, you know. 

Imagine spending hours creating a "Marti Cifuentes style of play" video then presenting it on stream and then see us make the most amount of short passes in the league between CBs instead.

 

You'd look like a right idiot 

[Collibosher70]

15 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Frustrating that he’s not doing himself any favours and it’ll lead to him being sacked because none of this is his fault.

 

Put Guardiola on the touch line and it won’t make any difference. You can’t polish a turd and this squad is full of them.

 

But to appease the morons that follow us, he will be sacked and it’ll buy King Power a month or two.

100% bang on.

There are only 2 people to blame for this slow painful and embarrassing erosion of this club..top and rudkin.

[RowlattsFox]

Nothing happens until the points deduction is cleared up imo. 

Only desperate managers would want to come here with that looming over. 

 

If we can survive in mid table with a points deduction, then I feel we may as well as stick with him until the summer. 

[Chelmofox]

I missed the first half because of train delays getting home. Saw a very depressed 2nd half. 

 

Towards the end, 2 moments summed up the Marti experience for me.

 

3-0 down and Begovic is playing out the back to Winks and co. Short passes to each over, Winks then plays a lame pass in midfield and we lose possession. Southampton counter quickly. Just pathetic.

 

Then later, Bobby gets the ball and runs up field. As he approaches the final third he stops, turns, passes sideways to someone who then passes back to Vestergaard who is just behind the halfway line. We then proceed to do what i call the 'Vestergaard manoeuvre', which is a combination of small triangular passes to and from Vestergaard, presumably so everyones passing stats look better. We then lose the ball and Southampton counter quickly.

 

Its pathetic, soulless stuff. I cant believe anyone with a professional bone in their body wants to be doing this (apart from those trying to make their passing stats look good). People didnt train through academies to play this way, and coaches did get their badges to play this way.

 

When Middlesborough went down to 10 men they pressed and went direct and chased the draw. We do nothing.

 

Im done. Its time for him to go.

[oldbluefox]

2 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I missed the first half because of train delays getting home. Saw a very depressed 2nd half. 

 

Towards the end, 2 moments summed up the Marti experience for me.

 

3-0 down and Begovic is playing out the back to Winks and co. Short passes to each over, Winks then plays a lame pass in midfield and we lose possession. Southampton counter quickly. Just pathetic.

 

Then later, Bobby gets the ball and runs up field. As he approaches the final third he stops, turns, passes sideways to someone who then passes back to Vestergaard who is just behind the halfway line. We then proceed to do what i call the 'Vestergaard manoeuvre', which is a combination of small triangular passes to and from Vestergaard, presumably so everyones passing stats look better. We then lose the ball and Southampton counter quickly.

 

Its pathetic, soulless stuff. I cant believe anyone with a professional bone in their body wants to be doing this (apart from those trying to make their passing stats look good). People didnt train through academies to play this way, and coaches did get their badges to play this way.

 

When Middlesborough went down to 10 men they pressed and went direct and chased the draw. We do nothing.

 

Im done. Its time for him to go.

To me to you, to me to you…… cos I’m clueless what to do with it. 

[kingfox]

Has he been dealt a bad hand? Imo yes. We have a set of strikers who can’t score regularly, four central midfielders who’s weakest strength is defending, then numerous defenders who are prone to errors. 
 

But there’s two reasons why Cifuentes should be a dead man walking. 
 

1) We haven’t played well for a full 90 minutes this season. 

2) He can’t set up a team to defend or attack. Our underlying stats have proven this for months, our attacking and defensive data shows zero signs of improvement. 
 

I think we’re seeing the reasons why his QPR team finished 18th then 15th, maybe he is just a mid-table Championship manager who is out of his depth at a club like Leicester.

 

The only thing you can hang your hat on is the fact the Championship can change very quickly, look at Derby managing five wins in a row from out of nowhere. 

[FoxinNotts]

14 hours ago, Dan said:

 

I haven't. In-fact I'm quite confident we'd be doing better. Because as terrible as he was, he was at least starting to force some of these players out. As it is we've got the same inept tactics but have cowered to the players yet again.

 

Everything about the club is weak and spineless. Winks waved straight back in after his antics last season. The whole club just allows these dreadful players to take the piss. Van Nistelrooy was at least trying to put some sort of stop to that if nothing else. Well now we have literally nothing else.

 

We need a radical manager. Not a bloke who paid to be a part of this mess.

Ruud was not radical

[RoboFox]

2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Ruud was not radical

He was. Radically shit. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

It's not worth sacking him, we're doomed as a club not matter what. 

We're going to spend over a decade in the lower leagues because of a dumb owner and inept DoF

[Foxin_Mad]

7 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I’m not sure why people think King is a good idea as some kind of interim or even as an option till the end of the season? 
 

Hes hardly pulling up trees as a coach is he? All aspects of our play look pants as well as our work rate and mentality. 
 

I dont know why some are thinking he will be a sound choice as the man in charge I mean he was hardly a strong character or leader on the pitch when he played? 
 

If we were to get someone like Carrick in I’d let him sort all his staff out and put Kingy in charge of the 23s or something. 

He's part of the frauds team. I suppose a coach does as the manager wishes even if he thinks its shit. 

Edited 26 November 2025 by Foxin_Mad

[robski]

5 hours ago, Reg Vardy said:

It likely is, and what’s the vision if we did by chance get promoted, are Sunderland, Leeds and Burnley stronger than us….for sure, have we got the funds to buy, sure not…..write it off, offload the players, and assess Marti after seasons end….,there is absolutely no point in us getting promoted, poor ****er had 3 kids, one of whom got sent off, none of whom are ready, plus the rest who want away/are here for the money……

Not a cat in hells chance of promotion.

so no point bringing it up imo 

[winteriscoming]

I know the game was gone but what did he really think Soumare and Ayew would do second half? 
Should have got Monga and Page on instead. 
Once again showing his lack of playing the youngsters. 
100 games in English football and lost more than he’s won. 
Completely out of his depth. 

[crisp packet]

When you shop at farm foods don’t complain about the quality of the food…

 

what had he achieved to get the gig ?

[adamkhalifa]

If we strip away all the other elements: owner, director, players.  

Marti has not shown player and system development. Apart from blooding new players, it's hard to back what I have seen so far. We look disjointed, have no bite and character. The squad is much better than our current position. 

 

 

[winteriscoming]

I genuinely think if he was a British manager who had done what he did at QPR he wouldn’t even have been under consideration. 
But because he’s Spanish and comes out about being inspired by Barcelona Top and Rudkin would have lapped it up. 
 

[Trav Le Bleu]

35 minutes ago, crisp packet said:

When you shop at farm foods don’t complain about the quality of the food…

 

what had he achieved to get the gig ?

Usually you're shopping at Farm Foods because you can't afford better.

[Leicesterpool]

16 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I genuinely think if he was a British manager who had done what he did at QPR he wouldn’t even have been under consideration. 
But because he’s Spanish and comes out about being inspired by Barcelona Top and Rudkin would have lapped it up. 
 

It's what Big Sam says all the time, if a foreign coach plays that certain brand of football your called an expert.. a british coach does the same its called negative football.

 

Tony Pulis gets a lot of stick, but in his time in the premier league he never suffered relegation. Stoke were very stable under him.

Edited 26 November 2025 by Leicesterpool

[cityfanlee23]

6 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

 

Hadn't RVN gotten to the exact place you describe about MC's current situation? 

 

As I say, I agree we're awful. I think us being in or close to a relegation battle is exactly the reason the club would change managers. Otherwise I don't think they'll sack MC. 

Yep we were struggling under Ruud, but he identified the culture problem and was actively taking strong action to show his intent to fix it, he didn't just roll over and immediately give in to player power. We also had somewhat of a system, especially in transition, he had a lot of flaws, but towards to the end of the season albeit too late, we put in some massively improved performances, performances that we are not even 10% near under Cifuentes, with much of the same players, at a drastically lower level. 

I'm not saying RVN would have been the best choice, but we've somehow managed to find a downgrade. 

[cityfanlee23]

Just praying that the Rangers owners have one more rash decision in them 

Then we can finally put this 8 year experiment to bed and start to play exciting football.