Cifuentes OUT

[HankMarvin]

Either get a striker in or get rid of this gimp, or both.

He won’t even be mid table marti soon

 

[Wink84]

3 hours ago, BeaumontFox said:

Top of the league 😂😂

So are we, in terms of players wages, what's your point?

[Kinowe Soorie]

Spineless and weak.

[Wink84]

Okay, fine.. I'll take Steven Gerrard. I'm ashamed of myself but I want a change.

[CrazyKopCorner]

Time to go time go time to go **** off

[Pliskin]

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

[ronnup]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

 Nailed it 

[hackneyfox]

3 hours ago, Fox85 said:

Leicester will get a 12 point deduction. 

 

They will make an example out of us because we "cheated" the system, also we haven't complied. Its been stated that we could get more than 12 points.

Granted has been stated we could get 6 but its likely we will get 12

Stated by who?

How did we cheat the system more than other clubs have?

You’re being hysterical.

Edited 17 January by hackneyfox

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

He's mad us worse than we he came in. Undeniable. 

 

Been given a shite hand but results have got worse, defence got worse, style of play worse, and his game management worse. 

 

We badly need a lift and a different voice. 

[Eskay]

Nothing happens without Tops order. He's not even in the country as far as I know. 

This guy is not going to get sacked. 

[Parker Pen]

34 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

100% spot on

[old koppite]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

Good post - and should Andy  King take some of the blame for in game management? He seems to be in MCs ear at different points in the game

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

He isn't the best manager, but nothing will change with any manager, we are way short of a squad capable of competing for top 6

Rubbish 

 

21 Championship matches without a clean sheet. Our worst run in the second tier since 1948-49 when they went 27 games before a shutout.

 

A decent manager has us more organised for a start.

 

 

A decent manager has us running....

 

Edited 17 January by coolhandfox

[lee7]

Our striker situation will cost him his job. 

 

We seriously lack anyone that poses a threat.  

When Wright came on for Coventry Okoli looked terrified every time the ball came near him.

[coolhandfox]

Just now, lee7 said:

Our striker situation will cost him his job. 

 

We seriously lack anyone that poses a threat.  

When Wright came on for Coventry Okoli looked terrified every time the ball came near him.

Not being able to organise a defence will cost him his job.

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

 

#chatgpt

[Harpenden Fox]

Feeble Chairman

Feeble Director of Football

Feeble Manager

Totally disillusioned Supporters

 

The only good thing at the moment is the 2016 trend on social media. And we're not even doing that.

[Dahnsouff]

11 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

#chatgpt

Martí Cifuentes inherited a difficult situation at Leicester City, but after a sustained period in charge there has been no clear improvement in performances, tactics, fitness, or player development, with persistent structural flaws and predictable setups making promotion highly unlikely. While a sacking should not be reckless, moving him on sooner rather than later—if a credible alternative exists—would at least allow the club to reset, properly assess the squad, and begin rebuilding instead of drifting into further stagnation

 

That  is chatGpt. 

[Rodney Fern_8]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

  

I think it’s important to start with some context and fairness. Marti Cifuentes undoubtedly walked into a difficult situation. His late arrival, combined with a lack of real productivity in the transfer market, meant he inherited a squad that wasn’t shaped for his ideas and had little time to adjust. That absolutely matters, and it should be acknowledged.

 

However, that context can only carry so much weight after a sustained period in charge. The core issue for me is that, despite working with players who have succeeded at higher levels and, in many cases, have previously excelled in this division, there has been no meaningful improvement—either individually or collectively. If anything, several players look worse. There’s no clear development of patterns, confidence, or cohesion, and that is ultimately the responsibility of the manager and his coaching staff.

 

Tactically, the shortcomings are becoming increasingly hard to ignore. Cifuentes appears wedded to the same basic approach week after week, with changes largely limited to personnel rather than structure or philosophy. Opposition teams seem to know exactly what they’re going to face. Our wingers are routinely isolated, expected to beat multiple players without adequate support, while large gaps appear in midfield due to the continued use of a double pivot that doesn’t suit the profiles available.

 

Jordan James is a prime example. He is far more effective as a high 8, pressing and linking play in advanced areas, yet this means Skipp is often constrained by a system that limits his strengths rather than maximising them, and leaves him exposed in the midfield all by himself… Similarly, persisting with Jordan Ayew as a central striker exposes another structural flaw. He simply doesn’t function as a true number 9. The lack of presence, movement, and tempo through the middle slows our entire attack and makes us predictable and easy to defend against.

 

Fitness is another major concern. Time and again, Leicester look capable of sustaining intensity for 45 minutes, but not much more. Second halves have become a recurring problem, with energy levels dropping, distances between units growing, and control of games slipping away far too easily. That points not just to squad issues, but to preparation and conditioning.

 

Perhaps most frustrating of all is the in-game management. When momentum turns against us, Cifuentes consistently fails to read the game early enough. Changes are either the wrong ones, or they come too late, and tactical adjustments often only arrive once the match is already lost. Altering the shape after the damage has been done is not proactive management—it’s reactive, and ineffective.

 

Taking all of this together, I struggle to see how Leicester, as things stand, are capable of achieving promotion. We all know that the problems are too deep-rooted, both on and off the pitch, and the damage has largely already been done this season. That doesn’t mean sacking a manager recklessly—but if the right candidate is available, I believe Cifuentes should be moved on sooner rather than later. Doing so would at least give a new manager time to assess the squad, implement a clear plan, and begin rebuilding properly for the future, rather than allowing stagnation to continue.

Fair points, expressed rationally, but who, in our current squad, should he play as our number 9? So we keep Jordan James as a high 8 but then, as you say, Skipp is exposed, so what would want to see in midfield, and what would be your preferred starting line-up to help mitigate the issues you have correctly identified

[HankMarvin]

11 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Martí Cifuentes inherited a difficult situation at Leicester City, but after a sustained period in charge there has been no clear improvement in performances, tactics, fitness, or player development, with persistent structural flaws and predictable setups making promotion highly unlikely. While a sacking should not be reckless, moving him on sooner rather than later—if a credible alternative exists—would at least allow the club to reset, properly assess the squad, and begin rebuilding instead of drifting into further stagnation

 

That  is chatGpt. 

it’s certainly on point 
 

Martí Cifuentes rocks the Foxes’ chair,
With tactics so bad they poison the air.
Sideways, backwards, dull as shite,
Ninety minutes wasted every bloody night.

The defence leaks piss, the midfield’s asleep,
The striker’s so lonely he’s counting sheep.
Subs come late, the shape’s a mess,
Looks like he planned it after ten pints less.

“Trust the process!” he whines with a grin,
While the table screams, you’re doing us in.
Every match’s the same old show:
No bollocks, no press, no clue, no go.

Fans chant loud, the patience gone,
“Get this fraud ****ed off before we’re done!”
Because if this clown keeps hold of the reins,
League One away days await our pains.

So pack your bags, Martí, jog right on,
Your football’s shit and the hope is gone.
The Foxes deserve more than this slow-motion doom —
Not relegation served by a tactical spoon.

[Pliskin]

44 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

#chatgpt

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Martí Cifuentes inherited a difficult situation at Leicester City, but after a sustained period in charge there has been no clear improvement in performances, tactics, fitness, or player development, with persistent structural flaws and predictable setups making promotion highly unlikely. While a sacking should not be reckless, moving him on sooner rather than later—if a credible alternative exists—would at least allow the club to reset, properly assess the squad, and begin rebuilding instead of drifting into further stagnation

 

That  is chatGpt. 

Between the hissy fits, swearing a manopausal breakdowns…. I can at least put together a piece of coherent text….

[UniFox21]

Incredible wishful thinking, if Franks sacked they should be on the phone offering him the keys to seagrave and a blank canvas to build the team on

[gurru991]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Not being able to organise a defence will cost him his job.

Not being able to organize a defence will cost him his job.

Not being able to organize a midfield will cost him his job.

Not being able to organize an attack will cost him his job.

 

 

[ThurmastonFox]

15 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

Not being able to organize a defence will cost him his job.

Not being able to organize a midfield will cost him his job.

Not being able to organize an attack will cost him his job.

 

 

But you think he’s got the goalie and subs sorted?