Sly Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 18 hours ago, moore_94 said: Other than chopping and changing players the tactics will remain the same That’s the issue in a nutshell. The tactics aren’t working as we aren’t quick enough on the ball to make this style of possession effective. We aren’t physical enough, so we lose the direct aggressive game. 2
Dames Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 18 hours ago, moore_94 said: Other than chopping and changing players the tactics will remain the same At this point i believe the tactics come directly from the ‘Top’. For years we’ve had the same issues and each and every manager has stuck to the style of play thats landed us in this predicament. 1
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 27 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 27 October 2025 On 26/10/2025 at 07:57, mod hero said: I admire your relentlessness for the acadamy I really do. But these are very young kids. Monga 16, page 17, Evans 17 Aluko 19. They are not ready to be thrust in this shit show of a season. Monga has done absolutely nothing since his cameo against Brum and is really struggling now. Page was completely out of his depth in the handful of games he played. Silko not ready as well clearly. the senior pros we have are mostly a disgusting bunch I agree but to throw in the young kids and expect them to perform is not gonna happen so we are stuck with what Marty is having to pick I think. I am extremely concerned now that we could be in a relegation fight, our form certainly suggests so. Marty is not the man but who the **** do we get? As I've said, I wouldn't necessarily have a load of them in the starting line up unless they show they are better choices than their counterparts but I'd have 3-4 of them on the bench and around the matchday squad. Nelson and Aluko should be starting. Page and Monga should be impact subs challenging Mavididi and Ramsay/Reid for the attacking midfield role. Jake Evans right now has to be considered an option when our attack is so toothless. Promotion is not happening, the rebuild we keep hearing being name checked is an absolute myth, build the squad around those academy players and maybe it's a label that can be used. 14
chuddy8 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 20 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Started out playing a few youngsters, so I think most of us would accept a bottom half finish as we knew long term we're improving the squad, clearing out the deadwood etc. Now he's not playing any youth except Monga, starting all the overpaid dross that doesn't want to be here, and we're still gonna be struggling to stay in this division. exactly this, if we were pushing for the top 3 with overpaid and underachieving relics like ayew, reid, faes, vestegaard, skipp, soumare, daka etc then the complaints would be muted but given we're not, I think people would be much more tolerant if he was at least blooding youth, sticking with them and trying to build something. 1
Ric Flair Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 On 26/10/2025 at 08:23, CloudFox said: Do you mind elaborating on this a bit more please Ric? I'm curious if that means all of them don't, he doesn't have the respect of the older players, he's done something (or not done something) to cause that...etc For me, he came in with all this stuff about building with the academy, having the right people in and around the squad...and then as soon as he's been able to replace them with senior players we know aren't good enough or at least willing to apply themselves, he's put them ahead of the youth showing promise. I would assume that would lose him the trust of the youth players, and potentially some of those who care the most about the club and have seen how some players fail to perform time and again. I first heard it in pre-season, so within a few weeks of him being here there were players turning up late or not even bothering. If that is true then I suspect it was want away players but whether any remain is not clear. Heard again last week some murmurings but the toxic nature of our club, fans included (mainly people like me) it's not surprising if it is true. Not sure what the answer is other than Top needs to sell up. 1
Ric Flair Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 On 26/10/2025 at 08:24, Sunbury Fox said: Really interested to know what your starting XI would be, Ric? Stolarczk Ricardo Nelson Souttar when fit (Okoli until then) Aluko Winks James Fatawu Ramsay Evans/Monga Mavididi I'd try Mavididi centrally with Evans taking up a wide role who can interchange. One thing that Evans is very good at too is physical duels so he will track back and cover his full back. People may be concerned with Aluko and Evans as a pairing but it could be a fluid front three that depending on opponents and how the game is going might need a shift to get the balance of defence and attack right. 2
kenny Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I first heard it in pre-season, so within a few weeks of him being here there were players turning up late or not even bothering. If that is true then I suspect it was want away players but whether any remain is not clear. Heard again last week some murmurings but the toxic nature of our club, fans included (mainly people like me) it's not surprising if it is true. Not sure what the answer is other than Top needs to sell up. He needs to do an Enzo at Chelsea. Pick the squad of players regardless of position or ability that want to be here and have the right cultural fit. Set the others adrift and tell them to find new clubs. If that leaves us midtable then sobeit. My suspicion is that a more cohesive group with the elements of quality that we do have will do better than the oft trodden path of trying to get the same group playing well together. Then he needs to look at his tactics as its clear it isn't working and nullifies all our best players. 4
Gamble92 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Stolarczk Ricardo Nelson Souttar when fit (Okoli until then) Aluko Winks James Fatawu Ramsay Evans/Monga Mavididi I'd try Mavididi centrally with Evans taking up a wide role who can interchange. One thing that Evans is very good at too is physical duels so he will track back and cover his full back. People may be concerned with Aluko and Evans as a pairing but it could be a fluid front three that depending on opponents and how the game is going might need a shift to get the balance of defence and attack right. You watch every Foxestalk user copy this team for the next 20 weeks now 1 1
RedSoxUK Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 (edited) Cifuentes is not gonna have a scoring team if he dumps Mavididi up front, puts Aluko, Nelson, Souttar, and Monga/Evans in the 11. Edited 27 October 2025 by RedSoxUK
Jon the Hat Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I first heard it in pre-season, so within a few weeks of him being here there were players turning up late or not even bothering. If that is true then I suspect it was want away players but whether any remain is not clear. Heard again last week some murmurings but the toxic nature of our club, fans included (mainly people like me) it's not surprising if it is true. Not sure what the answer is other than Top needs to sell up. Top could also put in place a top class CEO, and give them carte blanche to run the club properly. Selling is a nice to have at this point, but we need a leader to develop the right culture, from Director of Football to the manager, coaches and players.
moore_94 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 4 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: Cifuentes is not gonna have a scoring team if he dumps Mavididi up front, puts Aluko, Nelson, Souttar, and Monga/Evans in the 11. He hasn’t got one with the team he puts out now 4
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 27 October 2025 Popular Post Posted 27 October 2025 11 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: Cifuentes is not gonna have a scoring team if he dumps Mavididi up front, puts Aluko, Nelson, Souttar, and Monga/Evans in the 11. Souttar's performance at this level last season is better than anything any of our current defenders are serving up, when he's back fit he'd be the first name on the team sheet at the back. Nelson likewise was excellent at Oxford at this level, they are the future. Not Faes who wants out and not Vestergaard, although I'd much rather him around the place than Faes. Aluko is ready, the bar is so low as well with how bad our left back currently is. Same can be said for up front too. You do realise we've won 1 in 8, are barely scoring and our defence are good for at least one howler a game that leads to a soft goal? The rebuild needs to start. Promotion is not happening, especially not if a points deduction is applied. Do the rebuild now, like he keeps referring to. 8
Ric Flair Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 11 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Top could also put in place a top class CEO, and give them carte blanche to run the club properly. Selling is a nice to have at this point, but we need a leader to develop the right culture, from Director of Football to the manager, coaches and players. He could but what evidence is there that he has EVER made changes at board room level that make sense? 1
Jon the Hat Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: He could but what evidence is there that he has EVER made changes at board room level that make sense? None, he has no track record here, but I am hoping he is smart enough to realise he has a mess on his hands once he spends some time in the interim role. EDIT or indeed is Lazy enough not to want to do it permanently. Edited 27 October 2025 by Jon the Hat 1
AKCJ Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I first heard it in pre-season, so within a few weeks of him being here there were players turning up late or not even bothering. If that is true then I suspect it was want away players but whether any remain is not clear. Heard again last week some murmurings but the toxic nature of our club, fans included (mainly people like me) it's not surprising if it is true. Not sure what the answer is other than Top needs to sell up. Correct. The fish rots from the head and that's what we're seeing. The culture is put in place by Aiyawatt.
kenny Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Souttar's performance at this level last season is better than anything any of our current defenders are serving up, when he's back fit he'd be the first name on the team sheet at the back. Nelson likewise was excellent at Oxford at this level, they are the future. Not Faes who wants out and not Vestergaard, although I'd much rather him around the place than Faes. Aluko is ready, the bar is so low as well with how bad our left back currently is. Same can be said for up front too. You do realise we've won 1 in 8, are barely scoring and our defence are good for at least one howler a game that leads to a soft goal? The rebuild needs to start. Promotion is not happening, especially not if a points deduction is applied. Do the rebuild now, like he keeps referring to. Vestergaard for all of his mardiness does seem to care. I'd assume he ends up in the keep group, but agree with your CB suggestion. Our passing from the back is not yielding attacking output like Enzo, so they may as well defend properly instead. 1
UniFox21 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 30 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Stolarczk Ricardo Nelson Souttar when fit (Okoli until then) Aluko Winks James Fatawu Ramsay Evans/Monga Mavididi I'd try Mavididi centrally with Evans taking up a wide role who can interchange. One thing that Evans is very good at too is physical duels so he will track back and cover his full back. People may be concerned with Aluko and Evans as a pairing but it could be a fluid front three that depending on opponents and how the game is going might need a shift to get the balance of defence and attack right. I'd probably keep Vestergaard in next to Nelson. Significantly better on the ball and probably a more calming influence than Okoli. I know you have faith in the academy, and Evans probably is good at physical battles in those games, but there is a big physical step up between those games at the championship. 1
mod hero Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 Aluko is a right footed right back. Can he play left back? 1
moore_94 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 2 minutes ago, mod hero said: Aluko is a right footed right back. Can he play left back? Plays both sides Like with JJ and Castagne 2
moore_94 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: I'd probably keep Vestergaard in next to Nelson. Significantly better on the ball and probably a more calming influence than Okoli. I know you have faith in the academy, and Evans probably is good at physical battles in those games, but there is a big physical step up between those games at the championship. Can’t be any worse than Daka in physical battles 1
st albans fox Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 It’s my hobby horse but when was the last time a senior pro on high wages was fit and not in the matchday squad ?? I still maintain this comes from the top and it’s not all down to the manager 2
jayfox26 Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: It’s my hobby horse but when was the last time a senior pro on high wages was fit and not in the matchday squad ?? I still maintain this comes from the top and it’s not all down to the manager Vestergaard under RVN.
Jon the Hat Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: It’s my hobby horse but when was the last time a senior pro on high wages was fit and not in the matchday squad ?? I still maintain this comes from the top and it’s not all down to the manager Are you sure it isn't a high horse? Are you looking down? Or sort of running around with a stick between your legs? The truth is we don't know whether players are injured actually injured or "injured - can't be arsed or pissed off the manager this week.
st albans fox Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: Vestergaard under RVN. Apart from the aqueduct ………. (this season ) 2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Are you sure it isn't a high horse? Are you looking down? Or sort of running around with a stick between your legs? The truth is we don't know whether players are injured actually injured or "injured - can't be arsed or pissed off the manager this week. The stick is more apt I’m happy to accept that the coach isn’t making injuries up. Let’s assume his words in pressers are reliable.
Jon the Hat Posted 27 October 2025 Posted 27 October 2025 7 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I’m happy to accept that the coach isn’t making injuries up. Let’s assume his words in pressers are reliable. They very very rarely tell us if it is disciplinary.
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