Tuna Posted 7 November 2025 Posted 7 November 2025 Robinson isn't the manager you go for when you are battling premier league relegation. Possibly the right man but very much wrong time last season.
Muzzy_no7 Posted 7 November 2025 Posted 7 November 2025 Robins and Dyche would’ve jumped at the chance to manage us. Both are the characters that the club needs during this period and yet the board mess it up time and time again. 2
STUHILL Posted 7 November 2025 Posted 7 November 2025 12 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Robins and Dyche would’ve jumped at the chance to manage us. Both are the characters that the club needs during this period and yet the board mess it up time and time again. Not convinced Dyche would have wanted to join, especially for what we were likely offering him, although I expect he at least showed some slight interest before knowing the big (depressing) picture. He is the one I thought we needed, as I knew this squad would not perform for someone that didn't bully them relentlessly to get a tune out of them. Ah well, hopefully we get lucky with the next guy, as Marti ain't it.
CrazyKopCorner Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 (edited) Hailing Nelson is not a good look. He’s been right under his nose and was comfortably our best defender in pre season. It really should have been Nelson and another. Why do our last 3 managers not see the obvious. Lose today and he needs to go. Edited 8 November 2025 by CrazyKopCorner
JimJams Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 6 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Robins and Dyche would’ve jumped at the chance to manage us. Both are the characters that the club needs during this period and yet the board mess it up time and time again. Robins yes, Dyche not a prayer. 1
LCFCJohn Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 20 minutes ago, lcfcfoz said: Nathan Jones would be perfect for us It doesn’t even matter if he would or wouldn’t, we will not be poaching any in work managers, particularly from divisional rivals who are likely to finish above us.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 8 November 2025 Author Posted 8 November 2025 2 hours ago, lcfcfoz said: Nathan Jones would be perfect for us He's been gone too long . . . 2
filbertway Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 3 hours ago, lcfcfoz said: Nathan Jones would be perfect for us If Nathan Jones ever ends up working at our club, I will absolutely hate watch every game and pray for the opposition to smash us. He's the biggest bellend going. Weird weird weird little man. He even makes Rodgers seem like a decent bloke.
Chelmofox Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 3 hours ago, lcfcfoz said: Nathan Jones would be perfect for us Are you on a mission to get more c**ts into the club?
Raj Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 3 hours ago, lcfcfoz said: Nathan Jones would be perfect for us MODS. This deserves a life ban. 1
whoareyaaa Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 On 07/11/2025 at 09:43, filbertway said: They were signed to play there, by us. Like I've said before, people equate experience to talent. I don't know how much more evidence is needed to prove that experience doesnt really matter if your talent or personality don't match the level your club happened to play at. Ricardo is ace, but can only play about 60-70% of games. The others were part of a team that put in plenty of grim performances at this level. Having a player like KDH was the difference in a lot of games being a win instead of a draw. 12 goals and 14 assists. Ndidi in midfield. Feel free to expect it, but the stats and eye test tell me that a majority these are players are perceived to be better than they are. I think if we brought in 2 or 3 leaders they would help elevate general performance levels. But we've got far too many wet blankets and few of them have winner mindsets. The money they earn they should be top 2. However we all know the reason why were overpaying. I just don't think we have enough players that really want to do well. Plenty know that theyre either in their last good contract or are free to leave the club in the summer, so how the club does isn't really relevant to them. Ability wise they should have enough, but you need the mindset to go with that and weve managed to get into a position where a lot of senior players have little reason to be motivated to do well. Summed it up perfectly but if we sack the manager we will turn into prime Barca 1
Donwebbio Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 On 07/11/2025 at 09:52, Claudio Fannieri said: I will say it again, a disciplinarian will not solve these issues unless they receive the full backing of Top and Rudkin to change the culture at the club. RVN came in and tried to change the culture, punish poor behaviour and standards and didn’t get the backing from his bosses and the players threw him under a bus. Even if a Pearson type character came in he can only be successful if he is supported and backed, not undermined by players running to the DoF or owner behind the managers back. Whoever the next manager is has to be backed to the hilt to manage and remove the bad eggs, this is only way the club can rebuild and move forward as a collective unit and group. Currently it feels like the culture is rotten which makes the job of the manager pretty much impossible. If Marti is sacked it will be 3 managers potted in circa 50 games, that is unsustainable and there appears to be no long term planning, strategy or project. 100% nailed it Claudio. We don't back managers which is why we only get tepid returns out of them. Enzo wasn't backed when he felt he needed reinforcements in the promition bid. Cooper wasn't perfect obviously, but was not backed by the club conducting the worst transfer window in living memory with Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Edouard before sacking him for poor petformance from those players and picking up some results. Ruud was not backed in the window despite being promised reinforcements. All of them tried to freeze out the toxic wasters to some degree but these efforts ultimately not supported by the board and have allowed this ridiculous situation where so called 'senior' players have the chairman on speed dial to have a moan when they are asked to do things by the manager that they don't agree with. 1
foxinsocks Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Donwebbio said: 100% nailed it Claudio. We don't back managers which is why we only get tepid returns out of them. Enzo wasn't backed when he felt he needed reinforcements in the promition bid. Cooper wasn't perfect obviously, but was not backed by the club conducting the worst transfer window in living memory with Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Edouard before sacking him for poor petformance from those players and picking up some results. Ruud was not backed in the window despite being promised reinforcements. All of them tried to freeze out the toxic wasters to some degree but these efforts ultimately not supported by the board and have allowed this ridiculous situation where so called 'senior' players have the chairman on speed dial to have a moan when they are asked to do things by the manager that they don't agree with. There is an inefficiency between the money spent on players and league performance - this is primarily because of manager turnover. Clubs need to stick with a manager and have a DOF who finds the players to fit the agreed framework. Rapid turnover of managers and buying to meet their "immediate needs" leads to a jumble sale squad at best - and expensive payers who are not played at worst. It all starts with the right DOF, ten manager, then building the right squad over 2 to 4 years. Right now we have no idea where we are going playing wise (or any other wise) Edited 8 November 2025 by foxinsocks 2
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murphy Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 12 minutes ago, Donwebbio said: 100% nailed it Claudio. We don't back managers which is why we only get tepid returns out of them. Enzo wasn't backed when he felt he needed reinforcements in the promition bid. Cooper wasn't perfect obviously, but was not backed by the club conducting the worst transfer window in living memory with Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Edouard before sacking him for poor petformance from those players and picking up some results. Ruud was not backed in the window despite being promised reinforcements. All of them tried to freeze out the toxic wasters to some degree but these efforts ultimately not supported by the board and have allowed this ridiculous situation where so called 'senior' players have the chairman on speed dial to have a moan when they are asked to do things by the manager that they don't agree with. Cooper absolutely was backed. That was the problem. That transfer window that you are calling the worst in living memory has Cooper's paw prints all over it. 2
murphy Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 36 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: Summed it up perfectly but if we sack the manager we will turn into prime Barca Do you think that Cifuentes has got this squad playing to its maximum potential then? I would say nowhere near.
honeybradger Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 1 minute ago, murphy said: Do you think that Cifuentes has got this squad playing to its maximum potential then? I would say nowhere near. What does this squad playing to its best potential look like to you? Which players are not performing to the standard we would expect from them? The way I see it the players are performing exactly as expected, because they are not very good. 1
murphy Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, honeybradger said: What does this squad playing to its best potential look like to you? Which players are not performing to the standard we would expect from them? The way I see it the players are performing exactly as expected, because they are not very good. I would say that individually almost all of our players walk into any other Championship squad, but collectively we are not a team. The defence is not a unit and disorganised. Offensively we are a tepid, slow blunt instrument. We have been sussed and we are easy to play against. I've made the point before but this squad consists of players with years of Premier League experience, FA Cup winners, former Championship title winners and internationals. I'm just not having it that we have to be this bad. We are underperforming massively. edit - I should add that many of them look disinterested and lazy but again that is something that the manager needs to address. The thing that impressed me most about Enzo was not the football but the fact that he took a squad equally disinterested and toxic and galvanised it so quickly, Edited 8 November 2025 by murphy
Claudio Fannieri Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 9 minutes ago, murphy said: Do you think that Cifuentes has got this squad playing to its maximum potential then? I would say nowhere near. He hasn’t but not sure anyone would given half the squad don’t want to be here or won’t be here next season, there is no jeopardy for these players on huge wages and the ear of the DoF and owner as soon as anyone dares question or challenge them. This manager and whoever follows him as little chance of cajoling this lot into a cohesive unit unless said DoF and owner supports the manager in having a group of players earning in excess of £300k per week / £15m per year sat in the stands and in a training ground bomb squad. 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 11 minutes ago, honeybradger said: What does this squad playing to its best potential look like to you? Which players are not performing to the standard we would expect from them? The way I see it the players are performing exactly as expected, because they are not very good. Mavididi, Fatawu and Winks are all bobbins compared to 23/24 for starters. Could possibly add Faes and Vestergaard in there too. So that's all of them from the last Championship campaign that are still here. James has already nosedived too.
Winstonthedog Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 14 minutes ago, honeybradger said: What does this squad playing to its best potential look like to you? Which players are not performing to the standard we would expect from them? The way I see it the players are performing exactly as expected, because they are not very good. It's clearly obvious from some players body language... they no longer want to play for the club 2
Tommy Fresh Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 Surely goes if we don't win, these haven't got a single point at home ffs
Claudio Fannieri Posted 8 November 2025 Posted 8 November 2025 1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Mavididi, Fatawu and Winks are all bobbins compared to 23/24 for starters. Could possibly add Faes and Vestergaard in there too. So that's all of them from the last Championship campaign that are still here. James has already nosedived too. You mean Winks and Faes who both desperately want out, Fatawu who is coming back from a lengthy injury, Mavididi who has looked lost and out of form for about a year and James who is playing out of position because of Ramsey’s absence. We are a very different club from that in 23/24 where we still were able to bring in a number of quality signings including Winks, Mav and Abdul who were all buzzing to be here, fast forward 2 years and a relegation the mood is very different.
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