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48 minutes ago, The Leicester Badger said:

Boring Boring Leicester.

I've had enough of this tipperty tapperty pointless possession crap we're playing , not only is it crushingly dull to watch, it goes nowhere, gives the opposition defences oodles of time to get set and so our ponderous slow attacks come to nothing time after time, I know we all hark back to the 2015-16 season, but it was fast attacking paced football, our possession stats were crap but our goal stats weren't as we all know, so lets inject some pace and cut down this utter mind numbing dross BS we're having to endure, and has anybody told them it isn't against the rules of football to include the occasional long pass  to unsettle opposition defences and offer some variety and surprise to our game.

Only two stats that matter.

 

5k passes and 95% possession ain't either of them.

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1 hour ago, The Leicester Badger said:

Boring Boring Leicester.

I've had enough of this tipperty tapperty pointless possession crap we're playing , not only is it crushingly dull to watch, it goes nowhere, gives the opposition defences oodles of time to get set and so our ponderous slow attacks come to nothing time after time, I know we all hark back to the 2015-16 season, but it was fast attacking paced football, our possession stats were crap but our goal stats weren't as we all know, so lets inject some pace and cut down this utter mind numbing dross BS we're having to endure, and has anybody told them it isn't against the rules of football to include the occasional long pass  to unsettle opposition defences and offer some variety and surprise to our game.

 

I blame Mourinho and Pep for bringing in this possession based dull style we all dislike.

 

It might be OK if you're Man City and play tippy tappy but then surge forward at pace on the break, or balls over the top, which is kind of what we did in the title and FA cup wins when we had one of the best strikers in the PL.

 

Those days are long gone and most managers now prefer the possession game. 

 

I liken it to a fashion trend. Hopefully, like mini skirts, pacey front footed football will make a come back.

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During the Enzo threads I've always had the view that possession based football was, and still is total w@nk, and was quite vocal in voicing my hatred of it.

 

Unfortunately the Nepo Baby running the club still has a fixation with our playling style and wants us to be a Man City Pepball playing clone of a team to fulfil this goal.

 

Until the little B3ll3nd fooks off (and hopefully takes Teflon Jon with him) we are stuck with this style or a similar variation. Any manager who comes in will need to share the same playing style vision as Top, or blag it in the interview and claim to love it to get he job then unfortunately implement the BS.

 

Hence his thread was born.

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Yep, Boring style, Boring match days, Boring DOF, Boring owner, Boring Manager, Boring predictable pre and post match interviews, Boring set up, everything about LCFC at the moment is Boring and predictable, and we are going to keep getting more of the same till either the DOF changes, or the owner sells up.

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It’s not so much about which style of play we use for me, it’s about having a squad that’s built with an idea to carry one out. 
 

Our team is neither here nor there, such a mismatch of players. Every team needs a striker, too. 

Posted
1 minute ago, OadbyBlue said:

Crazy to me that not one manager since 15/16 has tried to replicate the playing style and values we had such success with.

Because counter attacking managers are not interviewed for the job. Because the owner does not want it. 

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Right now I'd take Pulis ball, Allardyce ball, insert any dinosaur manager here ball, just to get away from this boring shit we are subjected to. It was accepted in the most part under Enzo because the results were good but once the results turn to shit, then the atmosphere turns to shit. 

 

As I've said previously, I've come to terms with our decline and have accepted we're no longer an established premier league club and won't be anytime soon, but i can't accept us being shite in the championship. There is no excuse for it given we have the biggest wage bill and this league is absolutely garbage! It does go to show that the 3 teams with the highest possession stats (the 3 relegated teams) are all struggling. 

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Possession football isn't the enemy. Poor football is. We're crap and currently play possession football, so people are wrongly identifying the root cause here as our style of play, when in fact our biggest issue is that we have a lot of poor footballers on the books.

 

We could also be crap while lumping it forward, and people would be calling for our dinosaur brand of football to be modernised. 

 

Do I think we could play quicker? Absolutely. But that's a mental/attitude challenge more than it is a stylistic one. 

 

There's nothing wrong with possession-based football if it's done with purpose and skill. There's also nothing wrong with direct football if it's done with good delivery, physicality and intensity. 

 

We don't have the required players to be direct either. 

 

The issue is the players, and the framework at the top of the club that led to having such an overpaid, under-qualified and unmotivated bunch of tossers to choose from. I agree that our slow football is boring. But that doesn't mean that all possession based styles are without their merit. And as others have already said, it can be incredibly pleasing on the eye when deployed properly. 

 

It's beyond simplification to blame possession for poor football and our issues.

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1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

What? Mourinho's teams are infamous for being the anti-tiki taka. 

Did you read my post properly?

 

I included the tippy tappy stuff but then went on to say, fast paced breaking from the back and long balls over the top as is Mourinho's and Pep's trademark.

 

But that has morphed into almost total possession football where the fear of losing possession precludes any sort of progressive attacking, front footed style of play.

 

I would ask, why? 

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When I walk down walford market, I see grafters, ducking and diving to sell every apple, every knitted cardigan, every phone charger, real masters of their craft. I see more passion from our Billy and he’s got **** all going for him, but he gets up and puts his coat on every morning and believes in that stall. I support a football club not a chess club. P

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Possession football is brilliant to watch when it works properly (and obviously have players good enough to do it)

 

Some of the possession football we played under Rodgers in 19/20 was some of the best football I have ever seen us play

 

Past few years though it all just seems to have developed into the slow monotonous side to side crap we see so many teams play now

 

1 hour ago, Nods said:

Possession football isn't the enemy. Poor football is. We're crap and currently play possession football, so people are wrongly identifying the root cause here as our style of play, when in fact our biggest issue is that we have a lot of poor footballers on the books.

 

We could also be crap while lumping it forward, and people would be calling for our dinosaur brand of football to be modernised. 

 

Do I think we could play quicker? Absolutely. But that's a mental/attitude challenge more than it is a stylistic one. 

 

There's nothing wrong with possession-based football if it's done with purpose and skill. There's also nothing wrong with direct football if it's done with good delivery, physicality and intensity. 

 

We don't have the required players to be direct either. 

 

The issue is the players, and the framework at the top of the club that led to having such an overpaid, under-qualified and unmotivated bunch of tossers to choose from. I agree that our slow football is boring. But that doesn't mean that all possession based styles are without their merit. And as others have already said, it can be incredibly pleasing on the eye when deployed properly. 

 

It's beyond simplification to blame possession for poor football and our issues.

 

I consider ‘possession football’ to be football where possession is the aim.

 

We did play some great football under Rodgers for about 6 months but it wasn’t because we kept possession, it was because we passed the ball with tempo and accuracy. 

 

Agreed that accurate short passes are great when there is purpose but that’s just passing football - possession football is when the purpose is possession. I’ve often said it but the amount of possession a team has is often correlated with the quality of their players - you can batter a team from start to finish with 85% possession but that doesn’t mean you’re playing possession football - just means they can’t get it off you.

 

What I’m saying is - possession football is  the enemy because it’s a major reason we play badly (even when we had quality players 5 years ago). Prioritising possession has so many drawbacks; it invites pressure, it bores (demotivates) the players and fans, it allows the opposition to get players back into position, it invariably leads to a reduced tempo and worst of all it’s not how most goals are scored so not even statistically backed (again, the key stat is not how much possession winning teams have but how many goals are scored in moves with a high amount of passes in the build up).

 

So, if we’re saying that we’re missing high quality passing at a high tempo, that’s not really compatible with possession football because the priority of possession football is to slow the pace down and not to take risks. Passing the ball quickly and with attacking purpose requires the risk of losing possession.

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Oh I don't know

 

its exciting to see Ayew slow every attack down and hog the ball to score a scintillating 3 goals every season

 

boring possession football can fvck right off, just win a few games anyway we can would do

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