LCFCJohn Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 48 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Points deductions are the dumbest load of shit that anyone has ever come up with. Talk about kicking someone when they are down. Its very rare that a club can gain any sporting advantage by going bust, why are the supporters of a club punished for the fact that the football authorities continue to let corrupt clowns from overseas destroy our clubs? If you are going to have things like FFP then you must punish the big boys too. In recent years Chelsea, United and City have done some very dubious business but its been allowed whilst they hammer the smaller clubs for everything they can. Remember though when the big 6 did the supper league shit and it ‘wasn’t fair to punish the fans for the owners actions’ when punishment such as points deductions were mentioned…. Only fair to punish the fans of the rest of the clubs out there….. 2
Lambert09 Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 1 hour ago, shen said: Bit unfair, they've hardly had a competitive squad all Season. I wonder what that feels like
Foxin_Mad Posted 23 February Posted 23 February (edited) 1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said: Remember though when the big 6 did the supper league shit and it ‘wasn’t fair to punish the fans for the owners actions’ when punishment such as points deductions were mentioned…. Only fair to punish the fans of the rest of the clubs out there….. Its almost as it they are trying to protect a cartel... I know our club has done wrong, and I know everything we have now is caused by the owners incompetence, but who's going to be suffering if we go down? if we go out of existence? Its a big deal for a City the size of Leicester not to have a professional football club which is a very real possibility, this isnt the fans fault. To be honest our ownership alone and Jon Rudkins recruitment is the equivalent of being docked 50 points anyway. Surely a more sustainable thing would be to help clubs with incompetent clubs transition to sustainability and a new owner, maybe offer a restructuring team, take control of the club or something. Man Utd for example had a £40million special exemption due to covid losses. United claim to have lost double the amount allowed to ALL the other clubs combined. They were fined under the UEFA rules. Of course nothing dodgy to see their and an equally well run club... Edited 23 February by Foxin_Mad 2
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 23 February Popular Post Posted 23 February (edited) 1 hour ago, ceebeefox said: Sad day, great old club and ground, hopefully get the owners that can bring better days. The sooner the Brentford’s Bournemouth’s Fulham’s and Brighton’s are replaced the better. Nothing wrong with those clubs. They are well run and enjoying top flight football. It's not their fault Wednesday haven't been in the top flight since 2000. Also a bit disrespectful to Fulham given they have generally been a top flight ever present since the same period (2000), aside from a couple of seasons in the second tier, and played in Europe in that time. No club has a right to play at any level. People bang on about the Premier League/Sky protecting the top 6, but then also say clubs like Wednesday shouldn't be in the third tier. Edited 23 February by Fox92 8 1
ian__marshall Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said: Remember though when the big 6 did the supper league shit and it ‘wasn’t fair to punish the fans for the owners actions’ when punishment such as points deductions were mentioned…. Only fair to punish the fans of the rest of the clubs out there….. Think they were dining out on the idea of it all. 1
ceebeefox Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Nothing wrong with those clubs. They are well run and enjoying top flight football. It's not their fault Wednesday haven't been in the top flight since 2000. Also a bit disrespectful to Fulham given they have generally been a top flight ever present since the same period (2000), aside from a couple of seasons in the second tier, and played in Europe in that time. No club has a right to play at any level. People bang on about the Premier League/Sky protecting the top 6, but then also say clubs like Wednesday shouldn't be in the third tier. See the viewing figures when they play each other. The league deserves bigger clubs, us included, but I get that they’re better run, though 2 bad windows and they’re where we are, or drop like Luton , because their fan base wouldn’t save them.
AyewJoking Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 7 hours ago, adejo92 said: Its a shame its the fans that suffer. Hopefully they blitz League 1 and start to rebuild and recover. we'll give em 6 points next season 1
PhillippaT Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 24 minutes ago, AyewJoking said: we'll give em 6 points next season By default since we won't have enough players? /s
The Belgian Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 9 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Perhaps you´ll thank him for his header and the two extra points at the end of the season : might well be the points keeping you in the Championship ... 1 1
LCFCJohn Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 5 minutes ago, The Belgian said: Perhaps you´ll thank him for his header and the two extra points at the end of the season : might well be the points keeping you in the Championship ... Well it offsets the two points dropped at West Brom when he fell on his arse in fright when the Baggies player ran at him…. Maybe that point for West Brom might be the one keeping them in the Championship…..at our expense! 3
Chrysalis Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 4 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said: Points deductions are the dumbest load of shit that anyone has ever come up with. Talk about kicking someone when they are down. Its very rare that a club can gain any sporting advantage by going bust, why are the supporters of a club punished for the fact that the football authorities continue to let corrupt clowns from overseas destroy our clubs? If you are going to have things like FFP then you must punish the big boys too. In recent years Chelsea, United and City have done some very dubious business but its been allowed whilst they hammer the smaller clubs for everything they can. 18 is just not right, they might not even hit 0, way excessive all because an emotional set of rules
LCFCJohn Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said: Its almost as it they are trying to protect a cartel... I know our club has done wrong, and I know everything we have now is caused by the owners incompetence, but who's going to be suffering if we go down? if we go out of existence? Its a big deal for a City the size of Leicester not to have a professional football club which is a very real possibility, this isnt the fans fault. To be honest our ownership alone and Jon Rudkins recruitment is the equivalent of being docked 50 points anyway. Surely a more sustainable thing would be to help clubs with incompetent clubs transition to sustainability and a new owner, maybe offer a restructuring team, take control of the club or something. Man Utd for example had a £40million special exemption due to covid losses. United claim to have lost double the amount allowed to ALL the other clubs combined. They were fined under the UEFA rules. Of course nothing dodgy to see their and an equally well run club... I’ve said this before, they there should be an independent and impartial panel/group who have good knowledge of football and finances and can take control of the decisions made by clubs being poorly ran. If such a set up existed (I.e. not the likes of the EFL who are corrupt), I’d happily see the control of the club passed to them, to get the finances under control and decide on signings/contract etc given our owner/DOF/board are incapable of doing so.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 2 hours ago, The Belgian said: Perhaps you´ll thank him for his header and the two extra points at the end of the season : might well be the points keeping you in the Championship ... All your national team fans hate him too. I know because I go on the comments when he plays for Belgium and I see them all saying how shit he is.
OntarioFox Posted 23 February Posted 23 February (edited) 7 hours ago, ceebeefox said: Sad day, great old club and ground, hopefully get the owners that can bring better days. The sooner the Brentford’s Bournemouth’s Fulham’s and Brighton’s are replaced the better. To be honest I can't agree with that as an away fan, there's something incredibly unsettling about standing in a place where almost 100 people lost their lives, and one that basically hasn't been changed since. Sorry to be that guy in a thread about their relegation, but yeah, the Leppings Lane end is horrid and it's unbelievable that it's not been redeveloped since those awful scenes nearly 40 years ago. And Newcastle fans will tell you that it's still dangerous too, there was a crush there during a cup game in 2023 where it was pure luck nobody was injured or worse. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68567614 Sums up the chronic lack of investment in the place from chancers like Chansiri and all those who came before him that the stand has not been torn down and rebuilt by now. And as for the last line, nah, those clubs are all in the top flight on merit. Edited 23 February by OntarioFox 1
The Horse's Mouth Posted 23 February Posted 23 February 1 hour ago, OntarioFox said: And as for the last line, nah, those clubs are all in the top flight on merit. Is merit nowadays just to get a venture capitalist from a foreign land to pump obscene amount of money into the club? 1
Heathrow fox Posted 23 February Posted 23 February Did I hear someone say that they’ve had seven different keepers this season?
fox_favourite Posted 24 February Posted 24 February (edited) Feel for Wednesday fans. Must be hard to have no chance of staying up because your owner screwed you over. Thai owned clubs failing... coincidence? I think we've seen our future next season, to be honest. Edited 24 February by fox_favourite
LCFCJohn Posted 24 February Posted 24 February 5 hours ago, Heathrow fox said: Did I hear someone say that they’ve had seven different keepers this season? I work with a Wednesday fan who mentioned this yesterday yeah. Lots of emergency loans.
Sly Posted 24 February Posted 24 February Yes, they’ve had different goalkeepers this season I believe. In term of Thai ownership, it might just be a coincidence I’d imagine. Chansiri has run them into the ground, however plenty of other clubs run very poorly in reality. Shinawatra purchased Manchester City. He was a little bit dodgy. Thanakarnjanasuth did okay at Oxford and arguably was part of the consortium that saved Reading. If anything, the “Srivaddhanaprabha” family get off quite lightly in reality, by how they are framed in the media etc, if you consider the links they have to the Thailand government. A government that is highly criticised for suppressing free speech, military influenced, political back sliding, human rights violations, electoral integrity and doing little to nothing in terms of reforming this. If they were from UAE, Qatar, Iran etc, can you imagine the stick they’d get!? It’s easy to leave politics out of sport, however sports washing is a thing in reality. 1
The Belgian Posted 24 February Posted 24 February 10 hours ago, Corky said: Have we got another Faes sympathiser? Not exactly, but from most of what I read here about him all your troubles should have been resolved now that he isn't playing for LCFC anymore (quod non!) It's always easy to find a scapegoat, but it looks like you're going to have to find a new one (and have found one already in Okoli or L. Thomas ...) to blame for a pending relegation. 1
The Belgian Posted 24 February Posted 24 February 10 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: All your national team fans hate him too. I know because I go on the comments when he plays for Belgium and I see them all saying how shit he is. I'm not about to start a polemic on this (unlike @hfaes) so here's my final answer to that matter : ALL of Belgian's national team "fans" (note the quotation marks!) hate or dislike ALL current defenders. Undoubtedly the quality of our defenders has plummeted after the likes of Kompany, Vermaelen, etc. So these so-called fans comment on every mistake made by ANY defender (true Faes gets more than his fair share). Even when "stars" like Doku BLUNDER (cfr Belgium vs. Slovakia on the previous EC) the blame is put with the defenders ... Something else that's going on is the rivalry between clubs (let me enlighten you) : Belgian's national team has NO fans, they are all stuck in their hatred for eachother's club. Bruges fans hate (former) Anderlecht players, Anderlecht fans hate Bruges or Standard players and so on . So yes, you will read a lot of "hatred" from the "fans". To end some statistics : in 8 EC qualifier games Belgium conceded 4 goals (0.5/game), in 4 EC games Belgium conceded 2 goals (0.5/game)* Not too bad for a "tosser" I think. * 1 goal after Doku's blunder against Slovakia and 1 own goal by Jan Vertonghen against France, but you are right : "fans"blamed and hate Faes for thes goals, like LCFC "fans" they also are in desperate need of a scapegoat. Have a nice day! 1
Liam0308 Posted 24 February Posted 24 February 54 minutes ago, The Belgian said: Not exactly, but from most of what I read here about him all your troubles should have been resolved now that he isn't playing for LCFC anymore (quod non!) It's always easy to find a scapegoat, but it looks like you're going to have to find a new one (and have found one already in Okoli or L. Thomas ...) to blame for a pending relegation. I don't think anyone has ever pretended that faes was the only problem in the squad. He received harsher criticism than most because he seems to believe he's prime puyol, comes across as he is bigger than the club and instead of learning from mistakes or showing an ounce of humility, decided to cup his ears at his own fans when he actually scored a goal instead of being the reason we conceded one.
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