Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

[urban.spaceman]

6 hours ago, Wookie said:

Owen Jones is 33

 

4 hours ago, CarbonVirtine said:

Yep, like I said, a youngster!

Bet you he comes out as a Tory by the time he's 40.

[Dr The Singh]

India is so foooked up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india#ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india

 

 

Girls get raped and burned every fioking moment

 

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

India is so foooked up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india#ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india

 

 

Girls get raped and burned every fioking moment

 

Didnt India invent the tradition of stuffing and the Barbie-cue.

[katieakita]

https://news.sky.com/story/serial-killer-dennis-nilsen-dies-in-prison-11369937

[Carl the Llama]

10 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

India is so foooked up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india#ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/11/teenage-girl-dies-after-being-raped-and-burned-alive-in-india

 

 

Girls get raped and burned every fioking moment

 

3rd in a week.  3 women were raped and then set on fire in the space of a week.  The human species is garbage.

[Jattdogg]

47 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

3rd in a week.  3 women were raped and then set on fire in the space of a week.  The human species is garbage.

So are indian men who seem to think its okay to do this. Im ashamed to be of indian heritage when these crimes come out. Sickening.

[Dr The Singh]

7 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

So are indian men who seem to think its okay to do this. Im ashamed to be of indian heritage when these crimes come out. Sickening.

There is no such thing as Indian heritage imo.  India is a continent, what relation or have in common with a Telugi, or akhsay chin.  It's like calling me saying 'i hate my European heritage'.  I was reading statistics on tape, majority rapes are by high caste Hindus on low caste women.  

 

In Punjab, we have the Sikhs whose social structure is a class system with certain classes having the most money eg jatts are shudra (low class) but are considered the highest in some areas, but things are changing the chamars are becoming the highest due to numbers and influence.  This structure does not equate in rest of south Asia, hence rape is not so prevalent in Punjab.

[Dr The Singh]

8 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

3rd in a week.  3 women were raped and then set on fire in the space of a week.  The human species is garbage.

These are reported cases, rape in India happens every 3 seconds.

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

There is no such thing as Indian heritage imo.  India is a continent, what relation or have in common with a Telugi, or akhsay chin.  It's like calling me saying 'i hate my European heritage'.  I was reading statistics on tape, majority rapes are by high caste Hindus on low caste women.  

 

In Punjab, we have the Sikhs whose social structure is a class system with certain classes having the most money eg jatts are shudra (low class) but are considered the highest in some areas, but things are changing the chamars are becoming the highest due to numbers and influence.  This structure does not equate in rest of south Asia, hence rape is not so prevalent in Punjab.

≥This structure does not equate in rest of south Asia, hence rape is not so prevalent in Punjab.≤

 

Or Just doesnt get Reported or falls on deaf ears...

I was Aquainted With  a women Reporter from the Urdu written Pakistani-times,

somewhile Back how...Who fought fo Bring womens plight,in areas of both

the Pakistani and the Indian parts of the Punjab.Especially recognises the affluent

areas were Blighted by the abuse and disrespect towards women,across all Levels

of Cast,religious,and even Village apathy/lack of Respect historically towards Next Village neighbours.

 

Let me say,I have also Seen and experienced the contradictary,on Numerous occasions

where Streets imploded Into Riots..Friends neighbours ,students arguing violently 'against '  one another and everyone ,for the slightest and illogical of reasons and then in the Short Period of days,

These Same people gather without Fore/Afterthought  to..Help each other Desperately  in catastrophies,,searches for Kids,andl lostwomen.vigilanty mentality and action in searching catching

Rape suspects.

 

Protest hugely together against sati/suttee,though Banned still takes place openly

Also Show together Total disdain for the hypocrosies in their relevant local lives in social and political even religious dubious criminal immoral practices.which Turns violent with alot more Intensity and uncontrolled emotion,that You will  ever See in Europe.

 

Cross Border tension and deep Feelings,but witnessed Cross Border Support towards

Helping, sheltering ,searching and really Caring, in various situations.

I Suppose thats the complexity , contradictary and illogical mysteries,that Run untamed

though and across the Tigers Paths,of this beautifull diverse Continent and Country,

Which in Reality is a Melting Pot of various,differing cultures,and peoples,that ITS an Injustice,

to recognise It only as one country..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 13 May 2018 by fuchsntf

[Jattdogg]

5 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

There is no such thing as Indian heritage imo.  India is a continent, what relation or have in common with a Telugi, or akhsay chin.  It's like calling me saying 'i hate my European heritage'.  I was reading statistics on tape, majority rapes are by high caste Hindus on low caste women.  

 

In Punjab, we have the Sikhs whose social structure is a class system with certain classes having the most money eg jatts are shudra (low class) but are considered the highest in some areas, but things are changing the chamars are becoming the highest due to numbers and influence.  This structure does not equate in rest of south Asia, hence rape is not so prevalent in Punjab.

Of course there is indian heritage. I mean we dont have to get too literal  about it though. There are plenty of difference from state to state and even amongst the hindu religion in itself. We are nothing like tamils in southern india thats for sure

 

What im getting at that the treatment and attitudes towards women have nothing to do with religion and more of an cultural problem of women being second class citizens. We can talk about how a religion says we are equal but reality is not always on the same page. 

 

Punjab has a high amount of rapes too (even if its not as high as others. Heck 1 case is still too many for me.  Its not like sikhs (or those who identify as sikh, not necessarily religious sikhs) dont rape women in punjab.  It happens.

 

Im not trying to turn this into a us versus them (hindus) because its a major issue throughout india.  If punjab can lead the way  with changing that then that is awesome. Something has to change  though.

 

Women in india deserve to be treated better. Its a basic human right.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Jattdogg said:

Of course there is indian heritage. I mean we dont have to get too literal  about it though. There are plenty of difference from state to state and even amongst the hindu religion in itself. We are nothing like tamils in southern india thats for sure

 

What im getting at that the treatment and attitudes towards women have nothing to do with religion and more of an cultural problem of women being second class citizens. We can talk about how a religion says we are equal but reality is not always on the same page. 

 

Punjab has a high amount of rapes too (even if its not as high as others. Heck 1 case is still too many for me.  Its not like sikhs (or those who identify as sikh, not necessarily religious sikhs) dont rape women in punjab.  It happens.

 

Im not trying to turn this into a us versus them (hindus) because its a major issue throughout india.  If punjab can lead the way  with changing that then that is awesome. Something has to change  though.

 

Women in india deserve to be treated better. Its a basic human right.

My unlearned friend the concept of India was created by the British under the east Indian company.  Punjab was always it's sovereign state, panjabis had no fooking idea of this India thing, they went to war with Sindhi, Marathas, Nepal etc etc, the Sikh empire ended in 1870 I think, that is the first time Punjab had a notion of india, introduced by the Brits.  Before the Brits Punjab was in various empires.  Just like Europe there are similarities but heritage that's just tosh, India to punjab is less then 200 years old.

 

Even the Brits and empires before acknowledged the multiple nations within, why the fook are we believing in this bogus hindutva agenda created by the current oppressers

Edited 13 May 2018 by Dr The Singh

[Jattdogg]

5 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

My unlearned friend the concept of India was created by the British under the east Indian company.  Punjab was always it's sovereign state, panjabis had no fooking idea of this India thing, they went to war with Sindhi, Marathas, Nepal etc etc, the Sikh empire ended in 1870 I think, that is the first time Punjab had a notion of india, introduced by the Brits.  Before the Brits Punjab was in various empires.  Just like Europe there are similarities but heritage that's just tosh, India to punjab is less then 200 years old.

 

Even the Brits and empires before acknowledged the multiple nations within, why the fook are we believing in this bogus hindutva agenda created by the current oppressers

 

Far from unlearned. i know  about our history im not trying to talk about that though.  Im talking about rape and whats happening across india today whether you call it india or punjab or gujurat there are plenty of issues with how women are treated.

[Dr The Singh]

7 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

Far from unlearned. i know  about our history im not trying to talk about that though.  Im talking about rape and whats happening across india today whether you call it india or punjab or gujurat there are plenty of issues with how women are treated.

Mate, don't take this the wrong way, but if you post things that just aren't true, what am I supposed to think.  Regardless of on topic or not.

[Jattdogg]

5 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Mate, don't take this the wrong way, but if you post things that just aren't true, what am I supposed to think.  Regardless of on topic or not.

Nothing i said was untrue. We just have differing views which is all good.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, Jattdogg said:

Nothing i said was untrue. We just have differing views which is all good.

Ok, if you have Indian heritage, I'm a monkeys uncle.

[Jattdogg]

8 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Ok, if you have Indian heritage, I'm a monkeys uncle.

Just a generic term  that you are reading into it way too much.  As for being a monkey id have to ask your missus if you are one

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, Jattdogg said:

Just a generic term  that you are reading into it way too much.  As for being a monkey id have to ask your missus if you are one

My mum defo thinks I am........

[leicsmac]

Mentioned him elsewhere, but Sheldon Adelson.

 

That guy has got sociopathy down to a fine art.

[Wymsey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-44125566

I know 'paedophile hunter' strategies are quite controversial, but it does have its effectiveness.

[Buce]

 

We've had some real cvnts in this thread, for sure, but I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for this one:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/berlinah-wallace-found-guilty-of-throwing-sulphuric-acid-at-partner-bristol

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/kill-me-now-acid-attack-led-euthanasia-mark-van-dongen

 

'Kill me now': the acid attack that led Mark van Dongen to euthanasia

When Mark van Dongen’s father was shown to the ward at Southmead hospital in Bristol where his son had been taken after suffering acid burns to his face, body and limbs at the hands of Berlinah Wallace, he thought there had been an error.

 

“We entered the ward,” Kees van Dongen told the Guardian. “There were six rooms, one next to another. We looked in every room and we looked at every person in bed. At first I said there’s been a mistake, Mark is not here.”

A doctor arrived and told him his son was in room one. “The first room I had looked in. I failed to recognise my own son. His injuries were unbelievable.”

Staff had never seen such injuries. Burns covered 25% of Van Dongen’s body and much of the damaged skin had to be surgically removed. His face was massively scarred. He lost the sight in his left eye and most in his right.

When he arrived in hospital, Van Dongen, 29, could see enough of his injuries to scream and beg: “Kill me now, if my face is going to be left looking like this, I don’t want to live.”

 

After the attack by Wallace, Van Dongen spent four months in a coma in intensive care, fed through a tube and only able to breathe via a ventilator. His lower left leg had to be amputated.

 

When he woke he only had movement in his mouth and tongue and communicated by sticking out his tongue when his father pointed to a letter on an alphabet board.

Eventually he regained the power of speech – through a speaking valve – but was paralysed from the neck down. “I stayed by his bedside all the time,” said Kees van Dongen. “It went very bad. At one point he no longer responded to anything. He seemed to be falling into a hole. I stood by his ear and shouted really loudly, he seemed to come back.”

He described his son as a loving person. “He was a gentle man, everyone’s friend,” he said. “I often told him: ‘Mark, think about yourself.’ He was actually too good for this world, too kind. When he was a child he used to play marbles. When he won, four, five marbles and his opponent was crying he would hand them back. That was Mark all over.”

 

an Dongen did well at university in the Netherlands, his home country, and moved to the UK, studying at Bristol University and then working as an engineer.

In around 2010 Van Dongen met and began a relationship with Wallace, a fashion student almost 20 years his senior. “I had the impression she was using him,” said his father, a 56-year-old supervisor who lives in Belgium. “I wasn’t sure about it, but he was in love with her. I think Mark was more in love with her than the other way round.”

He said he worked hard on his own relationship with Wallace. “I always treated her as my own daughter. She called me Papa Kees in court. I’ve always been very good with her.”

As Van Dongen lay in a coma, police began piecing together what had happened. It was a difficult and upsetting investigation for all concerned. His injuries were so severe that the senior investigating officer, DI Paul Catton, kept the images under lock and key.

Detectives established that in August 2015 the relationship broke down and Van Dongen began seeing another woman. In September 2015 Wallace bought a one-litre bottle of sulphuric acid online through Amazon. She removed the label and researched acid attacks. She told a counsellor she felt “she could destroy everything around her” when someone spoke out of turn.

Police records established that on the day she bought the acid, Van Dongen dialled 999 and told police that Wallace had been harassing him and his new girlfriend. A constable phoned Wallace and warned her under the Protection from Harassment Act.

It was not until 10 months after the attack – in July 2016 – that Van Dongen was able to fill in the blanks to police. On the evening of 22 September he had gone to her flat and stayed the night. In the early hours of the morning, he woke to find her laughing: “If I can’t have you, no one else will” – then throwing the acid.

Slowly, van Dongen’s condition improved slightly. He regained his speech but not any movement below the neck. He was diagnosed with depression. He would get agitated, abusive and angry with staff. He was unable to feed or wash himself or use a toilet. Sometimes he said that he wanted to live, at other times that he would prefer to die.

By November 2016, 29 specialists had been involved in his care at Southmead. It was clear that van Dongen would need a lifetime of constant and dedicated care and a care home in Gloucester was found for him. He moved there on 22 November 2016.

His father said: “I asked Mark, ‘Would you like me to help you with the transfer?’ Mark said, ‘Dad, I would like to do it myself, so at least I have got that bit of independence.’” Kees van Dongen returned to Belgium.

 

The next day, the phone rang. “It was Mark. He was completely distressed. He said: ‘Dad, please come.’ I drove straight to Gloucester. I arrived at five in the morning.” When he got out of the van, he heard screaming. “It was Mark. It didn’t stop. I was banging on the door. It opened. A woman came to the door. Mark was in the very first room at the entrance. What I saw there was horrific.”

He said his son was covered in his own faeces and distraught. “I calmed him down. I said: ‘I’m here.’ I went back to the van and fetched towels and flannels and I washed Mark. He said: ‘Dad, I’m coming with you to Belgium.’ He was scared. I said we’d work it out.”

Relatives and friends teamed up to find a way of getting Van Dongen out of the UK. They hired a private ambulance in Belgium and left for St Maria hospital in Overpelt without informing police.

“The doctors and nurses didn’t know what had hit them,” his father said. “They didn’t have a suitable ward because of the way he looked. That caused problems but he was admitted. They examined him, cleaned him and we went straight to the palliative care unit. He was given excellent care. I had a beautiful home at the time. I said to Mark: ‘Come with me.’ He said: ‘Dad, that would just be another ceiling to look at.’”

Van Dongen developed a chest infection and doctors told him a tube needed to be inserted into his throat to remove liquid, which would almost certainly have meant him losing his voice. Unable to bear the idea of not even being able to talk to his father, he applied for euthanasia.

He was examined by three consultants who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of “unbearable physical and psychological suffering” and they agreed he met the criteria for euthanasia under Belgian law.

“No one wants to live like that,” his father said. “I no longer left his bedside. He was constantly itching, I had to support his arm, try to relieve the nerve pain. There is membrane around the bones – it was full of holes, the sulphuric acid continued to burn. It was unbearable pain.”

 

The euthanasia was carried out on 2 January 2017. “Mark was actually quite positive,” his father said. “They wanted to take me out. Mark said: ‘No, I want my dad to accompany me on my last journey.’ At 7.15pm doctors checked he was absolutely sure and all the laws had been followed. A doctor came. They inserted a catheter into his heart. That was the end of my son.”

 

Kees van Dongen said he was determined to control himself when Wallace gave evidence. She accused his son of being controlling and violent and claimed she had believed that she was throwing a glass of water at him. “I promised Mark I would not miss a minute of the court case. Nothing could have kept me out of the courtroom.

“It was worse than if he had been shot. No one can imagine what Mark’s suffering was like, the horrendous pain, the misery that boy went through. Nobody can imagine it.”

[Arriba Los Zorros]

17 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

We've had some real cvnts in this thread, for sure, but I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for this one:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/berlinah-wallace-found-guilty-of-throwing-sulphuric-acid-at-partner-bristol

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/kill-me-now-acid-attack-led-euthanasia-mark-van-dongen

 

'Kill me now': the acid attack that led Mark van Dongen to euthanasia

When Mark van Dongen’s father was shown to the ward at Southmead hospital in Bristol where his son had been taken after suffering acid burns to his face, body and limbs at the hands of Berlinah Wallace, he thought there had been an error.

 

“We entered the ward,” Kees van Dongen told the Guardian. “There were six rooms, one next to another. We looked in every room and we looked at every person in bed. At first I said there’s been a mistake, Mark is not here.”

A doctor arrived and told him his son was in room one. “The first room I had looked in. I failed to recognise my own son. His injuries were unbelievable.”

Staff had never seen such injuries. Burns covered 25% of Van Dongen’s body and much of the damaged skin had to be surgically removed. His face was massively scarred. He lost the sight in his left eye and most in his right.

When he arrived in hospital, Van Dongen, 29, could see enough of his injuries to scream and beg: “Kill me now, if my face is going to be left looking like this, I don’t want to live.”

 

After the attack by Wallace, Van Dongen spent four months in a coma in intensive care, fed through a tube and only able to breathe via a ventilator. His lower left leg had to be amputated.

 

When he woke he only had movement in his mouth and tongue and communicated by sticking out his tongue when his father pointed to a letter on an alphabet board.

Eventually he regained the power of speech – through a speaking valve – but was paralysed from the neck down. “I stayed by his bedside all the time,” said Kees van Dongen. “It went very bad. At one point he no longer responded to anything. He seemed to be falling into a hole. I stood by his ear and shouted really loudly, he seemed to come back.”

He described his son as a loving person. “He was a gentle man, everyone’s friend,” he said. “I often told him: ‘Mark, think about yourself.’ He was actually too good for this world, too kind. When he was a child he used to play marbles. When he won, four, five marbles and his opponent was crying he would hand them back. That was Mark all over.”

 

an Dongen did well at university in the Netherlands, his home country, and moved to the UK, studying at Bristol University and then working as an engineer.

In around 2010 Van Dongen met and began a relationship with Wallace, a fashion student almost 20 years his senior. “I had the impression she was using him,” said his father, a 56-year-old supervisor who lives in Belgium. “I wasn’t sure about it, but he was in love with her. I think Mark was more in love with her than the other way round.”

He said he worked hard on his own relationship with Wallace. “I always treated her as my own daughter. She called me Papa Kees in court. I’ve always been very good with her.”

As Van Dongen lay in a coma, police began piecing together what had happened. It was a difficult and upsetting investigation for all concerned. His injuries were so severe that the senior investigating officer, DI Paul Catton, kept the images under lock and key.

Detectives established that in August 2015 the relationship broke down and Van Dongen began seeing another woman. In September 2015 Wallace bought a one-litre bottle of sulphuric acid online through Amazon. She removed the label and researched acid attacks. She told a counsellor she felt “she could destroy everything around her” when someone spoke out of turn.

Police records established that on the day she bought the acid, Van Dongen dialled 999 and told police that Wallace had been harassing him and his new girlfriend. A constable phoned Wallace and warned her under the Protection from Harassment Act.

It was not until 10 months after the attack – in July 2016 – that Van Dongen was able to fill in the blanks to police. On the evening of 22 September he had gone to her flat and stayed the night. In the early hours of the morning, he woke to find her laughing: “If I can’t have you, no one else will” – then throwing the acid.

Slowly, van Dongen’s condition improved slightly. He regained his speech but not any movement below the neck. He was diagnosed with depression. He would get agitated, abusive and angry with staff. He was unable to feed or wash himself or use a toilet. Sometimes he said that he wanted to live, at other times that he would prefer to die.

By November 2016, 29 specialists had been involved in his care at Southmead. It was clear that van Dongen would need a lifetime of constant and dedicated care and a care home in Gloucester was found for him. He moved there on 22 November 2016.

His father said: “I asked Mark, ‘Would you like me to help you with the transfer?’ Mark said, ‘Dad, I would like to do it myself, so at least I have got that bit of independence.’” Kees van Dongen returned to Belgium.

 

The next day, the phone rang. “It was Mark. He was completely distressed. He said: ‘Dad, please come.’ I drove straight to Gloucester. I arrived at five in the morning.” When he got out of the van, he heard screaming. “It was Mark. It didn’t stop. I was banging on the door. It opened. A woman came to the door. Mark was in the very first room at the entrance. What I saw there was horrific.”

He said his son was covered in his own faeces and distraught. “I calmed him down. I said: ‘I’m here.’ I went back to the van and fetched towels and flannels and I washed Mark. He said: ‘Dad, I’m coming with you to Belgium.’ He was scared. I said we’d work it out.”

Relatives and friends teamed up to find a way of getting Van Dongen out of the UK. They hired a private ambulance in Belgium and left for St Maria hospital in Overpelt without informing police.

“The doctors and nurses didn’t know what had hit them,” his father said. “They didn’t have a suitable ward because of the way he looked. That caused problems but he was admitted. They examined him, cleaned him and we went straight to the palliative care unit. He was given excellent care. I had a beautiful home at the time. I said to Mark: ‘Come with me.’ He said: ‘Dad, that would just be another ceiling to look at.’”

Van Dongen developed a chest infection and doctors told him a tube needed to be inserted into his throat to remove liquid, which would almost certainly have meant him losing his voice. Unable to bear the idea of not even being able to talk to his father, he applied for euthanasia.

He was examined by three consultants who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of “unbearable physical and psychological suffering” and they agreed he met the criteria for euthanasia under Belgian law.

“No one wants to live like that,” his father said. “I no longer left his bedside. He was constantly itching, I had to support his arm, try to relieve the nerve pain. There is membrane around the bones – it was full of holes, the sulphuric acid continued to burn. It was unbearable pain.”

 

The euthanasia was carried out on 2 January 2017. “Mark was actually quite positive,” his father said. “They wanted to take me out. Mark said: ‘No, I want my dad to accompany me on my last journey.’ At 7.15pm doctors checked he was absolutely sure and all the laws had been followed. A doctor came. They inserted a catheter into his heart. That was the end of my son.”

 

Kees van Dongen said he was determined to control himself when Wallace gave evidence. She accused his son of being controlling and violent and claimed she had believed that she was throwing a glass of water at him. “I promised Mark I would not miss a minute of the court case. Nothing could have kept me out of the courtroom.

“It was worse than if he had been shot. No one can imagine what Mark’s suffering was like, the horrendous pain, the misery that boy went through. Nobody can imagine it.”

Horrible, evil, jealous, lying, vindictive bitch. Hope she gets all that's coming to her.

[urban.spaceman]

24 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

We've had some real cvnts in this thread, for sure, but I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for this one:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/berlinah-wallace-found-guilty-of-throwing-sulphuric-acid-at-partner-bristol

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/kill-me-now-acid-attack-led-euthanasia-mark-van-dongen

 

'Kill me now': the acid attack that led Mark van Dongen to euthanasia

When Mark van Dongen’s father was shown to the ward at Southmead hospital in Bristol where his son had been taken after suffering acid burns to his face, body and limbs at the hands of Berlinah Wallace, he thought there had been an error.

 

“We entered the ward,” Kees van Dongen told the Guardian. “There were six rooms, one next to another. We looked in every room and we looked at every person in bed. At first I said there’s been a mistake, Mark is not here.”

A doctor arrived and told him his son was in room one. “The first room I had looked in. I failed to recognise my own son. His injuries were unbelievable.”

Staff had never seen such injuries. Burns covered 25% of Van Dongen’s body and much of the damaged skin had to be surgically removed. His face was massively scarred. He lost the sight in his left eye and most in his right.

When he arrived in hospital, Van Dongen, 29, could see enough of his injuries to scream and beg: “Kill me now, if my face is going to be left looking like this, I don’t want to live.”

 

After the attack by Wallace, Van Dongen spent four months in a coma in intensive care, fed through a tube and only able to breathe via a ventilator. His lower left leg had to be amputated.

 

When he woke he only had movement in his mouth and tongue and communicated by sticking out his tongue when his father pointed to a letter on an alphabet board.

Eventually he regained the power of speech – through a speaking valve – but was paralysed from the neck down. “I stayed by his bedside all the time,” said Kees van Dongen. “It went very bad. At one point he no longer responded to anything. He seemed to be falling into a hole. I stood by his ear and shouted really loudly, he seemed to come back.”

He described his son as a loving person. “He was a gentle man, everyone’s friend,” he said. “I often told him: ‘Mark, think about yourself.’ He was actually too good for this world, too kind. When he was a child he used to play marbles. When he won, four, five marbles and his opponent was crying he would hand them back. That was Mark all over.”

 

an Dongen did well at university in the Netherlands, his home country, and moved to the UK, studying at Bristol University and then working as an engineer.

In around 2010 Van Dongen met and began a relationship with Wallace, a fashion student almost 20 years his senior. “I had the impression she was using him,” said his father, a 56-year-old supervisor who lives in Belgium. “I wasn’t sure about it, but he was in love with her. I think Mark was more in love with her than the other way round.”

He said he worked hard on his own relationship with Wallace. “I always treated her as my own daughter. She called me Papa Kees in court. I’ve always been very good with her.”

As Van Dongen lay in a coma, police began piecing together what had happened. It was a difficult and upsetting investigation for all concerned. His injuries were so severe that the senior investigating officer, DI Paul Catton, kept the images under lock and key.

Detectives established that in August 2015 the relationship broke down and Van Dongen began seeing another woman. In September 2015 Wallace bought a one-litre bottle of sulphuric acid online through Amazon. She removed the label and researched acid attacks. She told a counsellor she felt “she could destroy everything around her” when someone spoke out of turn.

Police records established that on the day she bought the acid, Van Dongen dialled 999 and told police that Wallace had been harassing him and his new girlfriend. A constable phoned Wallace and warned her under the Protection from Harassment Act.

It was not until 10 months after the attack – in July 2016 – that Van Dongen was able to fill in the blanks to police. On the evening of 22 September he had gone to her flat and stayed the night. In the early hours of the morning, he woke to find her laughing: “If I can’t have you, no one else will” – then throwing the acid.

Slowly, van Dongen’s condition improved slightly. He regained his speech but not any movement below the neck. He was diagnosed with depression. He would get agitated, abusive and angry with staff. He was unable to feed or wash himself or use a toilet. Sometimes he said that he wanted to live, at other times that he would prefer to die.

By November 2016, 29 specialists had been involved in his care at Southmead. It was clear that van Dongen would need a lifetime of constant and dedicated care and a care home in Gloucester was found for him. He moved there on 22 November 2016.

His father said: “I asked Mark, ‘Would you like me to help you with the transfer?’ Mark said, ‘Dad, I would like to do it myself, so at least I have got that bit of independence.’” Kees van Dongen returned to Belgium.

 

The next day, the phone rang. “It was Mark. He was completely distressed. He said: ‘Dad, please come.’ I drove straight to Gloucester. I arrived at five in the morning.” When he got out of the van, he heard screaming. “It was Mark. It didn’t stop. I was banging on the door. It opened. A woman came to the door. Mark was in the very first room at the entrance. What I saw there was horrific.”

He said his son was covered in his own faeces and distraught. “I calmed him down. I said: ‘I’m here.’ I went back to the van and fetched towels and flannels and I washed Mark. He said: ‘Dad, I’m coming with you to Belgium.’ He was scared. I said we’d work it out.”

Relatives and friends teamed up to find a way of getting Van Dongen out of the UK. They hired a private ambulance in Belgium and left for St Maria hospital in Overpelt without informing police.

“The doctors and nurses didn’t know what had hit them,” his father said. “They didn’t have a suitable ward because of the way he looked. That caused problems but he was admitted. They examined him, cleaned him and we went straight to the palliative care unit. He was given excellent care. I had a beautiful home at the time. I said to Mark: ‘Come with me.’ He said: ‘Dad, that would just be another ceiling to look at.’”

Van Dongen developed a chest infection and doctors told him a tube needed to be inserted into his throat to remove liquid, which would almost certainly have meant him losing his voice. Unable to bear the idea of not even being able to talk to his father, he applied for euthanasia.

He was examined by three consultants who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of “unbearable physical and psychological suffering” and they agreed he met the criteria for euthanasia under Belgian law.

“No one wants to live like that,” his father said. “I no longer left his bedside. He was constantly itching, I had to support his arm, try to relieve the nerve pain. There is membrane around the bones – it was full of holes, the sulphuric acid continued to burn. It was unbearable pain.”

 

The euthanasia was carried out on 2 January 2017. “Mark was actually quite positive,” his father said. “They wanted to take me out. Mark said: ‘No, I want my dad to accompany me on my last journey.’ At 7.15pm doctors checked he was absolutely sure and all the laws had been followed. A doctor came. They inserted a catheter into his heart. That was the end of my son.”

 

Kees van Dongen said he was determined to control himself when Wallace gave evidence. She accused his son of being controlling and violent and claimed she had believed that she was throwing a glass of water at him. “I promised Mark I would not miss a minute of the court case. Nothing could have kept me out of the courtroom.

“It was worse than if he had been shot. No one can imagine what Mark’s suffering was like, the horrendous pain, the misery that boy went through. Nobody can imagine it.”

Saw that on the news, absolutely heartbreaking. That woman is pure evil and should IMO have been convicted of manslaughter. 

[fuchsntf]

53 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

We've had some real cvnts in this thread, for sure, but I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for this one:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/berlinah-wallace-found-guilty-of-throwing-sulphuric-acid-at-partner-bristol

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/kill-me-now-acid-attack-led-euthanasia-mark-van-dongen

 

'Kill me now': the acid attack that led Mark van Dongen to euthanasia

When Mark van Dongen’s father was shown to the ward at Southmead hospital in Bristol where his son had been taken after suffering acid burns to his face, body and limbs at the hands of Berlinah Wallace, he thought there had been an error.

 

“We entered the ward,” Kees van Dongen told the Guardian. “There were six rooms, one next to another. We looked in every room and we looked at every person in bed. At first I said there’s been a mistake, Mark is not here.”

A doctor arrived and told him his son was in room one. “The first room I had looked in. I failed to recognise my own son. His injuries were unbelievable.”

Staff had never seen such injuries. Burns covered 25% of Van Dongen’s body and much of the damaged skin had to be surgically removed. His face was massively scarred. He lost the sight in his left eye and most in his right.

When he arrived in hospital, Van Dongen, 29, could see enough of his injuries to scream and beg: “Kill me now, if my face is going to be left looking like this, I don’t want to live.”

 

After the attack by Wallace, Van Dongen spent four months in a coma in intensive care, fed through a tube and only able to breathe via a ventilator. His lower left leg had to be amputated.

 

When he woke he only had movement in his mouth and tongue and communicated by sticking out his tongue when his father pointed to a letter on an alphabet board.

Eventually he regained the power of speech – through a speaking valve – but was paralysed from the neck down. “I stayed by his bedside all the time,” said Kees van Dongen. “It went very bad. At one point he no longer responded to anything. He seemed to be falling into a hole. I stood by his ear and shouted really loudly, he seemed to come back.”

He described his son as a loving person. “He was a gentle man, everyone’s friend,” he said. “I often told him: ‘Mark, think about yourself.’ He was actually too good for this world, too kind. When he was a child he used to play marbles. When he won, four, five marbles and his opponent was crying he would hand them back. That was Mark all over.”

 

an Dongen did well at university in the Netherlands, his home country, and moved to the UK, studying at Bristol University and then working as an engineer.

In around 2010 Van Dongen met and began a relationship with Wallace, a fashion student almost 20 years his senior. “I had the impression she was using him,” said his father, a 56-year-old supervisor who lives in Belgium. “I wasn’t sure about it, but he was in love with her. I think Mark was more in love with her than the other way round.”

He said he worked hard on his own relationship with Wallace. “I always treated her as my own daughter. She called me Papa Kees in court. I’ve always been very good with her.”

As Van Dongen lay in a coma, police began piecing together what had happened. It was a difficult and upsetting investigation for all concerned. His injuries were so severe that the senior investigating officer, DI Paul Catton, kept the images under lock and key.

Detectives established that in August 2015 the relationship broke down and Van Dongen began seeing another woman. In September 2015 Wallace bought a one-litre bottle of sulphuric acid online through Amazon. She removed the label and researched acid attacks. She told a counsellor she felt “she could destroy everything around her” when someone spoke out of turn.

Police records established that on the day she bought the acid, Van Dongen dialled 999 and told police that Wallace had been harassing him and his new girlfriend. A constable phoned Wallace and warned her under the Protection from Harassment Act.

It was not until 10 months after the attack – in July 2016 – that Van Dongen was able to fill in the blanks to police. On the evening of 22 September he had gone to her flat and stayed the night. In the early hours of the morning, he woke to find her laughing: “If I can’t have you, no one else will” – then throwing the acid.

Slowly, van Dongen’s condition improved slightly. He regained his speech but not any movement below the neck. He was diagnosed with depression. He would get agitated, abusive and angry with staff. He was unable to feed or wash himself or use a toilet. Sometimes he said that he wanted to live, at other times that he would prefer to die.

By November 2016, 29 specialists had been involved in his care at Southmead. It was clear that van Dongen would need a lifetime of constant and dedicated care and a care home in Gloucester was found for him. He moved there on 22 November 2016.

His father said: “I asked Mark, ‘Would you like me to help you with the transfer?’ Mark said, ‘Dad, I would like to do it myself, so at least I have got that bit of independence.’” Kees van Dongen returned to Belgium.

 

The next day, the phone rang. “It was Mark. He was completely distressed. He said: ‘Dad, please come.’ I drove straight to Gloucester. I arrived at five in the morning.” When he got out of the van, he heard screaming. “It was Mark. It didn’t stop. I was banging on the door. It opened. A woman came to the door. Mark was in the very first room at the entrance. What I saw there was horrific.”

He said his son was covered in his own faeces and distraught. “I calmed him down. I said: ‘I’m here.’ I went back to the van and fetched towels and flannels and I washed Mark. He said: ‘Dad, I’m coming with you to Belgium.’ He was scared. I said we’d work it out.”

Relatives and friends teamed up to find a way of getting Van Dongen out of the UK. They hired a private ambulance in Belgium and left for St Maria hospital in Overpelt without informing police.

“The doctors and nurses didn’t know what had hit them,” his father said. “They didn’t have a suitable ward because of the way he looked. That caused problems but he was admitted. They examined him, cleaned him and we went straight to the palliative care unit. He was given excellent care. I had a beautiful home at the time. I said to Mark: ‘Come with me.’ He said: ‘Dad, that would just be another ceiling to look at.’”

Van Dongen developed a chest infection and doctors told him a tube needed to be inserted into his throat to remove liquid, which would almost certainly have meant him losing his voice. Unable to bear the idea of not even being able to talk to his father, he applied for euthanasia.

He was examined by three consultants who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of “unbearable physical and psychological suffering” and they agreed he met the criteria for euthanasia under Belgian law.

“No one wants to live like that,” his father said. “I no longer left his bedside. He was constantly itching, I had to support his arm, try to relieve the nerve pain. There is membrane around the bones – it was full of holes, the sulphuric acid continued to burn. It was unbearable pain.”

 

The euthanasia was carried out on 2 January 2017. “Mark was actually quite positive,” his father said. “They wanted to take me out. Mark said: ‘No, I want my dad to accompany me on my last journey.’ At 7.15pm doctors checked he was absolutely sure and all the laws had been followed. A doctor came. They inserted a catheter into his heart. That was the end of my son.”

 

Kees van Dongen said he was determined to control himself when Wallace gave evidence. She accused his son of being controlling and violent and claimed she had believed that she was throwing a glass of water at him. “I promised Mark I would not miss a minute of the court case. Nothing could have kept me out of the courtroom.

“It was worse than if he had been shot. No one can imagine what Mark’s suffering was like, the horrendous pain, the misery that boy went through. Nobody can imagine it.”

Totally lost for words. ..I have been Heartbrocken,, but such a Revenge_attack on a lost Love

I cant I never will understand.

[Wymsey]

Been cleared of murder..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44159192

[Guest seanfox778]

4 hours ago, Buce said:

 

We've had some real cvnts in this thread, for sure, but I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for this one:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/berlinah-wallace-found-guilty-of-throwing-sulphuric-acid-at-partner-bristol

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/kill-me-now-acid-attack-led-euthanasia-mark-van-dongen

 

'Kill me now': the acid attack that led Mark van Dongen to euthanasia

When Mark van Dongen’s father was shown to the ward at Southmead hospital in Bristol where his son had been taken after suffering acid burns to his face, body and limbs at the hands of Berlinah Wallace, he thought there had been an error.

 

“We entered the ward,” Kees van Dongen told the Guardian. “There were six rooms, one next to another. We looked in every room and we looked at every person in bed. At first I said there’s been a mistake, Mark is not here.”

A doctor arrived and told him his son was in room one. “The first room I had looked in. I failed to recognise my own son. His injuries were unbelievable.”

Staff had never seen such injuries. Burns covered 25% of Van Dongen’s body and much of the damaged skin had to be surgically removed. His face was massively scarred. He lost the sight in his left eye and most in his right.

When he arrived in hospital, Van Dongen, 29, could see enough of his injuries to scream and beg: “Kill me now, if my face is going to be left looking like this, I don’t want to live.”

 

After the attack by Wallace, Van Dongen spent four months in a coma in intensive care, fed through a tube and only able to breathe via a ventilator. His lower left leg had to be amputated.

 

When he woke he only had movement in his mouth and tongue and communicated by sticking out his tongue when his father pointed to a letter on an alphabet board.

Eventually he regained the power of speech – through a speaking valve – but was paralysed from the neck down. “I stayed by his bedside all the time,” said Kees van Dongen. “It went very bad. At one point he no longer responded to anything. He seemed to be falling into a hole. I stood by his ear and shouted really loudly, he seemed to come back.”

He described his son as a loving person. “He was a gentle man, everyone’s friend,” he said. “I often told him: ‘Mark, think about yourself.’ He was actually too good for this world, too kind. When he was a child he used to play marbles. When he won, four, five marbles and his opponent was crying he would hand them back. That was Mark all over.”

 

an Dongen did well at university in the Netherlands, his home country, and moved to the UK, studying at Bristol University and then working as an engineer.

In around 2010 Van Dongen met and began a relationship with Wallace, a fashion student almost 20 years his senior. “I had the impression she was using him,” said his father, a 56-year-old supervisor who lives in Belgium. “I wasn’t sure about it, but he was in love with her. I think Mark was more in love with her than the other way round.”

He said he worked hard on his own relationship with Wallace. “I always treated her as my own daughter. She called me Papa Kees in court. I’ve always been very good with her.”

As Van Dongen lay in a coma, police began piecing together what had happened. It was a difficult and upsetting investigation for all concerned. His injuries were so severe that the senior investigating officer, DI Paul Catton, kept the images under lock and key.

Detectives established that in August 2015 the relationship broke down and Van Dongen began seeing another woman. In September 2015 Wallace bought a one-litre bottle of sulphuric acid online through Amazon. She removed the label and researched acid attacks. She told a counsellor she felt “she could destroy everything around her” when someone spoke out of turn.

Police records established that on the day she bought the acid, Van Dongen dialled 999 and told police that Wallace had been harassing him and his new girlfriend. A constable phoned Wallace and warned her under the Protection from Harassment Act.

It was not until 10 months after the attack – in July 2016 – that Van Dongen was able to fill in the blanks to police. On the evening of 22 September he had gone to her flat and stayed the night. In the early hours of the morning, he woke to find her laughing: “If I can’t have you, no one else will” – then throwing the acid.

Slowly, van Dongen’s condition improved slightly. He regained his speech but not any movement below the neck. He was diagnosed with depression. He would get agitated, abusive and angry with staff. He was unable to feed or wash himself or use a toilet. Sometimes he said that he wanted to live, at other times that he would prefer to die.

By November 2016, 29 specialists had been involved in his care at Southmead. It was clear that van Dongen would need a lifetime of constant and dedicated care and a care home in Gloucester was found for him. He moved there on 22 November 2016.

His father said: “I asked Mark, ‘Would you like me to help you with the transfer?’ Mark said, ‘Dad, I would like to do it myself, so at least I have got that bit of independence.’” Kees van Dongen returned to Belgium.

 

The next day, the phone rang. “It was Mark. He was completely distressed. He said: ‘Dad, please come.’ I drove straight to Gloucester. I arrived at five in the morning.” When he got out of the van, he heard screaming. “It was Mark. It didn’t stop. I was banging on the door. It opened. A woman came to the door. Mark was in the very first room at the entrance. What I saw there was horrific.”

He said his son was covered in his own faeces and distraught. “I calmed him down. I said: ‘I’m here.’ I went back to the van and fetched towels and flannels and I washed Mark. He said: ‘Dad, I’m coming with you to Belgium.’ He was scared. I said we’d work it out.”

Relatives and friends teamed up to find a way of getting Van Dongen out of the UK. They hired a private ambulance in Belgium and left for St Maria hospital in Overpelt without informing police.

“The doctors and nurses didn’t know what had hit them,” his father said. “They didn’t have a suitable ward because of the way he looked. That caused problems but he was admitted. They examined him, cleaned him and we went straight to the palliative care unit. He was given excellent care. I had a beautiful home at the time. I said to Mark: ‘Come with me.’ He said: ‘Dad, that would just be another ceiling to look at.’”

Van Dongen developed a chest infection and doctors told him a tube needed to be inserted into his throat to remove liquid, which would almost certainly have meant him losing his voice. Unable to bear the idea of not even being able to talk to his father, he applied for euthanasia.

He was examined by three consultants who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of “unbearable physical and psychological suffering” and they agreed he met the criteria for euthanasia under Belgian law.

“No one wants to live like that,” his father said. “I no longer left his bedside. He was constantly itching, I had to support his arm, try to relieve the nerve pain. There is membrane around the bones – it was full of holes, the sulphuric acid continued to burn. It was unbearable pain.”

 

The euthanasia was carried out on 2 January 2017. “Mark was actually quite positive,” his father said. “They wanted to take me out. Mark said: ‘No, I want my dad to accompany me on my last journey.’ At 7.15pm doctors checked he was absolutely sure and all the laws had been followed. A doctor came. They inserted a catheter into his heart. That was the end of my son.”

 

Kees van Dongen said he was determined to control himself when Wallace gave evidence. She accused his son of being controlling and violent and claimed she had believed that she was throwing a glass of water at him. “I promised Mark I would not miss a minute of the court case. Nothing could have kept me out of the courtroom.

“It was worse than if he had been shot. No one can imagine what Mark’s suffering was like, the horrendous pain, the misery that boy went through. Nobody can imagine it.”

It’s such a horrible story, the fact she ordered it on Amazon and had days to reconsider her evil plan yet she still went through with it, disgusting!