Joe. Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 I've got much more respect for Rage (not just because I like them anyway), because incredibly, they write their own songs. Can't have somebody winning Christmas number one who does that though can we?
Fosse Boy Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 No no, in this instance it's nothing to do with FXT Factor at all... it's literally that I can't stand the idea of having that metal/rock shite as number one over Christmas a time for happy jolly music and festivities... everything RATM aren't. Yeah, know what you mean. I felt well fucking jolly when Hallelujah got it last year, and Mad World a few years back...
lildave3 Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 Rubbish. X Factor winners have failed to make the number one spot in the past and the show has come back bigger and better the next year... Joe may not get the Christmas number 1 spot but he'll still probably sell just as many for this song as other winners in the past... this year is slightly different though as there is some ridiculous song trying to oust him... as has been said, protest consumerism. Erm, when? Every X Factor winner has had their first single go to number one.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 It's hammering the x factor in sales! Lets keep it this way.
The Doctor Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 Erm, when? Every X Factor winner has had their first single go to number one. and then their career has fallen apart.
Libertine Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 and then their career has fallen apart. Irrelevant to what ld3 was saying, but not true anyway. Leona? And Alexandra's doing pretty well already.
potter3 Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 I think that was pretty stupid by the band to use the original lyrics with swearing at the end. If they were told not to do it, it really is a poor show and will reflect badly on them. You do know that the lyric they ask to be changed was "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me"?
purpleronnie Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 I just worry about the future of music, I know this is pop music and it shouldn't be taken too seriously but pop music can mean something and push boundaries. I'm concerned that the kids today see x factor as the only way to get a record deal, to become a clone and jumped up karaoke singer is the way forward? And the record companies who are so obseesed with reality tv artists that they fail to see the talent out there and maybe the next lennon or lydon or strummer or gallagher may never get a chance.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 You do know that the lyric they ask to be changed was "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me"? Yes I do know and that has already been said earlier in the thread.
hairy Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 I'm concerned that the kids today see x factor as the only way to get a record deal, to become a clone and jumped up karaoke singer is the way forward? Speaking as an employer, I see a lot of school leavers thinking that what they are doing for me is only short term, soon they will win the X-factor / britains got talent / big brother etc. I have honestly had it said to me on more than one occasion Its really disappointing to hear
Daggers Posted 17 December 2009 Posted 17 December 2009 I see a lot of school leavers thinking that what they are doing for me is only short term Pleasuring the Boss is no longer the route to success it used to be.
Finnegan Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Pop music's always been shit, it's a harmless gateway that gets younger people into music. The sort of people that get wound up by pop music and the charts generally tend to get on my tits. Yes it's annoying that it's everywhere but who the fuck listens to the radio anyway? Think the people overreacting about this are generally pretty retarded be they massively in favour of Rage or massively in favour of the X Factor. I do think Cowell's attitude toward it all is somewhat irritating, though, it's not like he has some godly right to be succesful. And I see it all as a protest, not against strictly the X Factor or against commerce in popular music (because let's be fair, there's always been commerce in popular music) but as a protest against dumbing down. A protest against lazy TV, cheap, faux-celebrity culture and this "reality" nonsense. I haven't bought Killing In The Name (there's no "Of", if I may be pedantic) and I wouldn't go so far as to say I care enough to back the campaign but I no doubt will have a bit of a chuckle if it's Christmas number one and I will enjoy Simon Cowell's huffing and puffing. If you're fed up nerd-raging over nothing then you're all welcome to join me!
BoneDog Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 No no, in this instance it's nothing to do with FXT Factor at all... it's literally that I can't stand the idea of having that metal/rock shite as number one over Christmas a time for happy jolly music and festivities... everything RATM aren't. McEldery isn't really happy jolly music to be fair. It depresses the shite out of me. At least Rage actually believe what they are singing about and put real passion into it. The Joe geezer just gets told what he is singing and does it. Really it's just airy fairy stuff that gets repeated by hundreds of other pop dudes every week. Stuff like "I'd swim the ocean.........I'd give anything........for you-hooooo-hoooooooooooo tweetie-pie. Yessssssss I lo-ho-hoooooove you, your muff takes me so hiiiigggghhhhhhhh-aye-aye-aye. Ooooooooh bay-hay-ayyybeeeee. Wo-wo-wo-wo-yeah-aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr". I do that shit on karaoke whenever I'm in range of one, it's not really a major talent. But if you've got a pretty face and are not fat you can go a long way in pop music. That said, I'm sure Joe's a lovely lad and fair play to him.
Libertine Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 your muff takes me so hiiiigggghhhhhhhh-aye-aye-aye. Brilliant. :laugh:
Rocket-Ron Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Yes I do know and that has already been said earlier in the thread. Don't worry Pete. I saw your Humour!!
ozleicester Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 I just bit torrented both songs.. and then deleted the X factor one without even listening to it muwhahahahahahahahaha. Does anyone find it in anyway ironic that, the lyrics ... "phuck you, i wont do what you tell me"... are in a song that you have been TOLD to buy? Anyhoo.. saw RATM at big day out a couple of years ago.. brilliant performance, by a real band. just as an aside, why is the british public's musical taste so very poor?
Rocket-Ron Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 I just bit torrented both songs.. and then deleted the X factor one without even listening to it muwhahahahahahahahaha.Does anyone find it in anyway ironic that, the lyrics ... "phuck you, i wont do what you tell me"... are in a song that you have been TOLD to buy? Anyhoo.. saw RATM at big day out a couple of years ago.. brilliant performance, by a real band. just as an aside, why is the british public's musical taste so very poor? Because Rolf Harris has stopped making music!!
Fosse Boy Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 If I'm honest, I wish they'd chosen a better Rage song for the campaign... Still, I guess it's probably their most famous number.
purpleronnie Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Pop music's always been shit, it's a harmless gateway that gets younger people into music. The sort of people that get wound up by pop music and the charts generally tend to get on my tits. Yes it's annoying that it's everywhere but who the fuck listens to the radio anyway? Think the people overreacting about this are generally pretty retarded be they massively in favour of Rage or massively in favour of the X Factor. I do think Cowell's attitude toward it all is somewhat irritating, though, it's not like he has some godly right to be succesful. And I see it all as a protest, not against strictly the X Factor or against commerce in popular music (because let's be fair, there's always been commerce in popular music) but as a protest against dumbing down. A protest against lazy TV, cheap, faux-celebrity culture and this "reality" nonsense. I haven't bought Killing In The Name (there's no "Of", if I may be pedantic) and I wouldn't go so far as to say I care enough to back the campaign but I no doubt will have a bit of a chuckle if it's Christmas number one and I will enjoy Simon Cowell's huffing and puffing. If you're fed up nerd-raging over nothing then you're all welcome to join me! Pop music has always been shit? I guess it depends on what you call pop music to me pretty much everything is pop music the beatles, rolling stones, the kinks, right through to the sex pistols, the specials, the jam, the smiths, etc etc... My worry is you'll just constantly get shit all over the charts it doesnt have to be that way.
Manwell Pablo Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Pop music's always been shit, it's a harmless gateway that gets younger people into music. The sort of people that get wound up by pop music and the charts generally tend to get on my tits. Yes it's annoying that it's everywhere but who the fuck listens to the radio anyway? Think the people overreacting about this are generally pretty retarded be they massively in favour of Rage or massively in favour of the X Factor. I do think Cowell's attitude toward it all is somewhat irritating, though, it's not like he has some godly right to be succesful. And I see it all as a protest, not against strictly the X Factor or against commerce in popular music (because let's be fair, there's always been commerce in popular music) but as a protest against dumbing down. A protest against lazy TV, cheap, faux-celebrity culture and this "reality" nonsense. I haven't bought Killing In The Name (there's no "Of", if I may be pedantic) and I wouldn't go so far as to say I care enough to back the campaign but I no doubt will have a bit of a chuckle if it's Christmas number one and I will enjoy Simon Cowell's huffing and puffing. If you're fed up nerd-raging over nothing then you're all welcome to join me! I can appericate the not really fussed stance, but I think I'll buy it, just to support the campaign. When all is said and done until the British public actually do something we're going to be stuck with X factor winners ruining what used to be a vaguely interesting contest in Christmas no.1 and Saturday night TV that's appaulingly bad. Having the winner of X factor actually failing to get to no.1 would be a good start.
Guest Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 If I'm honest, I wish they'd chosen a better Rage song for the campaign...Still, I guess it's probably their most famous number. Down Rodeo for next Xmas no.1
Finnegan Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Pop music has always been shit? I guess it depends on what you call pop music to me pretty much everything is pop music the beatles, rolling stones, the kinks, right through to the sex pistols, the specials, the jam, the smiths, etc etc... My worry is you'll just constantly get shit all over the charts it doesnt have to be that way. I don't mean to be judgemental but I'm guessing at the very oldest you're in your late twenties? People always look back at past generations with rose tinted glasses at the wonderous music scene they missed out. They forgt that these eras still had wank pop music just as before and that the general public still had wank, easy-listening tastes. There might have been a few more guitars and a few less synths but don't make the mistake of assuming that it's only in the last fifteen to twenty years that the charts have been lined with utter toss.
James. Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 I don't mean to be judgemental but I'm guessing at the very oldest you're in your late twenties? Really? I had purpleronnie down as late 30's early 40's... Sweepstake? No, fair enough.
Finnegan Posted 18 December 2009 Posted 18 December 2009 Really? I had purpleronnie down as late 30's early 40's...Sweepstake? No, fair enough. To be honest I actually thought he was about 18 odd.
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